Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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killersheep
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JT Rock
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Lyle
and is too lazy to KO a guy who was by all means there for the taking
I didnt know Wlad fought last night :headscratch:
Oh come on the only guy Wlad hasn't stopped in the last 4 years is Ibragimov.
Wlad knows how to finish.
Really? if you ask me he typically finishes his fights 4 rounds later than he should.. Do you disagree with that statement?
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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markb018
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Jimboogie
Firstly, i'm very suprised he won the fight.
Secondly, i VERY VERY suprised that he ROCKED Valuev
And Thirdly, i'm pretty disapointed with some of the opinions shown here... Especially AMAT... Dude, WHAT THE FUK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 23 STONE MAN?!?!?
Your talking about Froch & Dirrel, two guys who are of exactly the same build and then comparing them to David & Goliath. This is madness... No wait, this is just dumb.
DUMB!
I've not had a look at anyone's pre fight/ post fight opinions but i'm gonna take a wild stab at the notion that all the guys who call the fight boring or Haye a runner or any of that negative shit MUST of been predicting a HAYE win or more likely a HAYE KNOCKOUT and are now just pissed becuase they dont know SHIT.
I got it wrong but i was actually pleasantly suprised at how dicsiplined Haye was. With enought in the tank to Rock Valuev in the last with a fucked hand. And yes the fight was boring but FUCKING HELL, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 7 STONE DEFICIT?! :mad: :-\
Some poeple just fuck me off with their stupidity... :rolleyes:
im pretty sure amat started this thread to fire some people up. he was pissed that dirrell to a hometown decision when he clearly beat froch in better fashion than haye did to valuev.
If he did, then thats just petty as well as imature.
Again, i bring up the weight issue.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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JT Rock
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Lyle
and is too lazy to KO a guy who was by all means there for the taking
I didnt know Wlad fought last night :headscratch:
I do try to stick up for Lyle on the Wlad bashing but that was a good one ;D ;)
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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JT Rock
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killersheep
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JT Rock
I didnt know Wlad fought last night :headscratch:
Oh come on the only guy Wlad hasn't stopped in the last 4 years is Ibragimov.
Wlad knows how to finish.
Really? if you ask me he typically finishes his fights 4 rounds later than he should.. Do you disagree with that statement?
I think Wlad doesn't look for the KO coming into the fight, I think he breaks a fighter down if there is an opportunity he piles it on and finishes, he's a machine. Haye didn't engage YES Valuev is huge, but us there any doubt the Klitschko hits hard and faster than Valuev?
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
Killer having seen how Haye set up shop from the 1st round onwards, do you think Haye was really looking for the K.O going into this fight?
I did, I really though he was gonna blow a gasket out there but the difference here is i think a few people are now bitter and disapointed for David beating Goliath with one hand and not getting the K.O
I have to unravel the Pactard smiley on you fools ;D
Seriously, Valuev is no longer the heavyweight champ. Haye is probably gonna smash Ruiz into retiremnet so i thought you'd ALL be happy.... Not only that, but if there is ANYONE who is up for chaing unification, it's HAYE... What is wrong with some of you?
Guess you can please everyone :-\
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JT why are you comparing Haye to Wlad?? I thought Haye was supposed to be better at everything???
Wlad COULD let his hands go more, but the FACT is he still ends up stopping his opponents
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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Lyle
I've seen enough of Haye's fights to know what he's about and to know his flaws will be shown at heavyweight.
Pre fight hype...wonderful, I'm glad to see it back in boxing. You know recently there has been far too much BOXING and not enough shit talking...I really miss the shit talking especially when guys say "I'm going to knock you out" and then end up running the entire fight.
I'm not defending Dirrell, I'm telling you that's how the guy fights....David Haye said he was NEVER going to fight like that and low and behold he did.
When I say "Valuev was there for the taking" I mean THROW MORE THAN ONE FUCKING PUNCH GOD DAMNIT!!! I thought Haye had fast hands? I thought Haye was going to "rip off combinations" with his "blazing handspeed"....I mean that's what he SAID he was going to do, so why not do it. I't not like Valuev was going to speed up all of a sudden. Do you not think Haye could have thrown 3-4 punches at a time and still accomplished what he did??? I can tell you right now that is one of the MAIN reasons he's not going to last with Wladimir and hell that laziness could catch up with him vs Ruiz or someone else.
I don't ask that Haye stand infront of Valuev, I ask that he work more...am I wrong?? It's not as if Valuev is a massive puncher OR a skilled counter puncher....this was as horrible as Mayweather-Baldomir, except with less punches thrown and every now and then Haye got hit
Wlad - Ibragimov is the worst world title fight ever. far worse than Mayweather-Baldomir. And Haye's fight last night was like something out of a Rocky film compared.
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Lyle
JT why are you comparing Haye to Wlad?? I thought Haye was supposed to be better at everything???
Wlad COULD let his hands go more, but the FACT is he still ends up stopping his opponents
Never stopped anyone as big as Valuev though FACT.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
The Ibragimov fight was more Sultan's doing than Wladimir's....Wlad was the one cutting the ring off, Wlad was the one throwing the punches, Wlad was the one trying to make Sultan fight, all Sultan did was load up for a counter.
Wlad's stopped guys bigger than himself and if Wlad fought Valuev Wlad would stop him.
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This was a GREAT thread. Well designed, well executed. I almost gave Amat rep.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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Lyle
The Ibragimov fight was more Sultan's doing than Wladimir's....Wlad was the one cutting the ring off, Wlad was the one throwing the punches, Wlad was the one trying to make Sultan fight, all Sultan did was load up for a counter.
Wlad's stopped guys bigger than himself and if Wlad fought Valuev Wlad would stop him.
Probably would. Now Haye's shown him that he can be KO'd ;)
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
Sorry to burst your bubble rjjtszyu, but Haye has only KO'd fighters that have already been KO'd before he has fought them (bar Fragomini and Johanssen)....meanwhile Wlad can pretty much take out anyone whether they have been stopped before or not.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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Lyle
Sorry to burst your bubble rjjtszyu, but Haye has only KO'd fighters that have already been KO'd before he has fought them (bar Fragomini and Johanssen)....meanwhile Wlad can pretty much take out anyone whether they have been stopped before or not.
I know, and when he KO's Wlad it'll be someone who has been KO'd 3 times before, by 3 bums. So that won't be much of an achievement either.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
Well see the problem with that is that Haye isn't even going to come close to KO'ing Wladimir. Haye is going to eat a few jabs and then start looking for a way out of the fight, Haye will be mentally beaten VERY early in that fight
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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Lyle
Well see the problem with that is that Haye isn't even going to come close to KO'ing Wladimir. Haye is going to eat a few jabs and then start looking for a way out of the fight, Haye will be mentally beaten VERY early in that fight
We'll see, I bet you said the same shit about Sanders and co.
Re: Valuev Won That Fight!
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OumaFan
This was a GREAT thread. Well designed, well executed. I almost gave Amat rep.
Why's that?
