Valuev Won That Fight!

[El Kabong]

I've seen enough of Haye's fights to know what he's about and to know his flaws will be shown at heavyweight.

Pre fight hype...wonderful, I'm glad to see it back in boxing. You know recently there has been far too much BOXING and not enough shit talking...I really miss the shit talking especially when guys say "I'm going to knock you out" and then end up running the entire fight.

I'm not defending Dirrell, I'm telling you that's how the guy fights....David Haye said he was NEVER going to fight like that and low and behold he did.

When I say "Valuev was there for the taking" I mean THROW MORE THAN ONE FUCKING PUNCH GOD DAMNIT!!! I thought Haye had fast hands? I thought Haye was going to "rip off combinations" with his "blazing handspeed"....I mean that's what he SAID he was going to do, so why not do it. I't not like Valuev was going to speed up all of a sudden. Do you not think Haye could have thrown 3-4 punches at a time and still accomplished what he did I can tell you right now that is one of the MAIN reasons he's not going to last with Wladimir and hell that laziness could catch up with him vs Ruiz or someone else.

I don't ask that Haye stand infront of Valuev, I ask that he work more...am I wrong?? It's not as if Valuev is a massive puncher OR a skilled counter puncher....this was as horrible as Mayweather-Baldomir, except with less punches thrown and every now and then Haye got hit

[AdamGB]

I always fought that 'there for the taking' meant 'there for the taking'?

If you're not defending Dirrell then why dive in? I'm not saying that Haye put on a marquee performance, just that comparing Andre Dirrell's negativity to haye's is ludicrous.

[Phil]

I've seen enough of Haye's fights to know what he's about and to know his flaws will be shown at heavyweight.

Pre fight hype...wonderful, I'm glad to see it back in boxing. You know recently there has been far too much BOXING and not enough shit talking...I really miss the shit talking especially when guys say "I'm going to knock you out" and then end up running the entire fight.

I'm not defending Dirrell, I'm telling you that's how the guy fights....David Haye said he was NEVER going to fight like that and low and behold he did.

When I say "Valuev was there for the taking" I mean THROW MORE THAN ONE FUCKING PUNCH GOD DAMNIT!!! I thought Haye had fast hands? I thought Haye was going to "rip off combinations" with his "blazing handspeed"....I mean that's what he SAID he was going to do, so why not do it. I't not like Valuev was going to speed up all of a sudden. Do you not think Haye could have thrown 3-4 punches at a time and still accomplished what he did I can tell you right now that is one of the MAIN reasons he's not going to last with Wladimir and hell that laziness could catch up with him vs Ruiz or someone else.

I don't ask that Haye stand infront of Valuev, I ask that he work more...am I wrong?? It's not as if Valuev is a massive puncher OR a skilled counter puncher....this was as horrible as Mayweather-Baldomir, except with less punches thrown and every now and then Haye got hit

Haye would have thrown more but he conveniently injured his right hand at the start of the fight , for all the smack talk he did, he really came off as a scared bitch who ran for 12 rounds, what a crap fight, His output is horrible and Im still not sold on his fitness, first guy that makes him fight at a decent pace(throw more than 5 punches a round) will take him out mid to late rounds

[rjj tszyu]

I've seen enough of Haye's fights to know what he's about and to know his flaws will be shown at heavyweight.

Pre fight hype...wonderful, I'm glad to see it back in boxing. You know recently there has been far too much BOXING and not enough shit talking...I really miss the shit talking especially when guys say "I'm going to knock you out" and then end up running the entire fight.

I'm not defending Dirrell, I'm telling you that's how the guy fights....David Haye said he was NEVER going to fight like that and low and behold he did.

When I say "Valuev was there for the taking" I mean THROW MORE THAN ONE FUCKING PUNCH GOD DAMNIT!!! I thought Haye had fast hands? I thought Haye was going to "rip off combinations" with his "blazing handspeed"....I mean that's what he SAID he was going to do, so why not do it. I't not like Valuev was going to speed up all of a sudden. Do you not think Haye could have thrown 3-4 punches at a time and still accomplished what he did I can tell you right now that is one of the MAIN reasons he's not going to last with Wladimir and hell that laziness could catch up with him vs Ruiz or someone else.

I don't ask that Haye stand infront of Valuev, I ask that he work more...am I wrong?? It's not as if Valuev is a massive puncher OR a skilled counter puncher....this was as horrible as Mayweather-Baldomir, except with less punches thrown and every now and then Haye got hit

Wlad - Ibragimov is the worst world title fight ever. far worse than Mayweather-Baldomir. And Haye's fight last night was like something out of a Rocky film compared.

JT why are you comparing Haye to Wlad?? I thought Haye was supposed to be better at everything

Wlad COULD let his hands go more, but the FACT is he still ends up stopping his opponents

Never stopped anyone as big as Valuev though FACT.

[El Kabong]

The Ibragimov fight was more Sultan's doing than Wladimir's....Wlad was the one cutting the ring off, Wlad was the one throwing the punches, Wlad was the one trying to make Sultan fight, all Sultan did was load up for a counter.

Wlad's stopped guys bigger than himself and if Wlad fought Valuev Wlad would stop him.

[OumaFan]

This was a GREAT thread. Well designed, well executed. I almost gave Amat rep.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

This was a GREAT thread. Well designed, well executed. I almost gave Amat rep.

Why's that?

[JT Rock]

This was a GREAT thread. Well designed, well executed. I almost gave Amat rep.

Why's that?

Because its a total piss take from the dirrell froch fight

[rjj tszyu]

The Ibragimov fight was more Sultan's doing than Wladimir's....Wlad was the one cutting the ring off, Wlad was the one throwing the punches, Wlad was the one trying to make Sultan fight, all Sultan did was load up for a counter.

Wlad's stopped guys bigger than himself and if Wlad fought Valuev Wlad would stop him.

Probably would. Now Haye's shown him that he can be KO'd

[El Kabong]

Sorry to burst your bubble rjjtszyu, but Haye has only KO'd fighters that have already been KO'd before he has fought them (bar Fragomini and Johanssen)....meanwhile Wlad can pretty much take out anyone whether they have been stopped before or not.

[rjj tszyu]

Sorry to burst your bubble rjjtszyu, but Haye has only KO'd fighters that have already been KO'd before he has fought them (bar Fragomini and Johanssen)....meanwhile Wlad can pretty much take out anyone whether they have been stopped before or not.

I know, and when he KO's Wlad it'll be someone who has been KO'd 3 times before, by 3 bums. So that won't be much of an achievement either.

[El Kabong]

Well see the problem with that is that Haye isn't even going to come close to KO'ing Wladimir. Haye is going to eat a few jabs and then start looking for a way out of the fight, Haye will be mentally beaten VERY early in that fight