Re: Haye/Harrison Press conference tomorrow
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I think it will finally sink in when I see those two clowns in the same room that it really IS happening. I always hoped it was a smokescreen for someone else but, no, David Haye REALLY is cleaning up the division - by fighting Audley Harrison.
What a chicken.
Yeah, it's beyond lame isn't it. A fighter who fights twice a year tops and wants to be retired in a handful of fights going on to fight.....Audley Harrison?
The public are mugs and he knows it.
How are the public mugs? People that buy this fight are paying to be
entertained. How do you know they won't get that?
The are mugs because they are buying into a meaningless fight. Audley Harrison has done nothing to deserve a shot at the title. From what I have seen of Harrison he is not particularly entertaining and doesn't throw. Haye is going to be all over him and it will likely be over early. I like good competitive fights and this is clearly not one of them.
It's a rubbish matchup, Fenster. Fact.
Don't watch it then. Simple.
Just because it doesn't interest you it doesn't make fans that will watch it mugs. Whatever happens many fans will have an entertaining night - hardcore and casual.
You might as well say - anyone that doesn't share your interests are mugs.
I won't watch it. No way am I waking up at 6am to watch this. The only chance I will watch is a replay if Harrison lands the lucky shot.
No proper boxing fan is genuinely going to enjoy this charade. It's a farcical matchup. World boxing champ against ancient domestic opponent who hasn't beaten anybody. Pointless.
I think the people who want to see decent title fights are well within their rights to expect such a thing. A title shot should be earned and not handed out to anybody.
We all know that if there is money to be thrown at nothing then it can happen, but only mugs are paying to watch Audley Harrison at this stage.
Have you ever
bought tickets or PPV for a boxing fight?
Considering that I have spent the past 8 years out of country where the option for doing so doesn't exist I would have to say no. If I had the options you can bet your life I would, the good fights I would watch and others I would skip.
I hope you are not going to lead onto the "you don't pay for it therefore you shouldn't have an opinion" type of argument. I'm a boxing fan and like to see good fights. The fact that I live in Asia shouldn't really exclude me from boxing and having opinions entirely.
That's fair enough. You are a
mug too then.
Some mugs like different boxing events to you, thats all ;)
I hope you are including yourself in this rampant muggery, Fenster. After all wasn't it Shakespeare who said "We are all but mugs with bowels of tea and coffee". Or was it Marlowe? I always get them confused.
If people are genuinely up for this fight, then fair enough. But on the forums I only really see mockery and condemnation. Most of us know that it isn't a real or particularly meaningful fight. I'm sure the ensuing KO will make some laugh, but I just like my big fights with a little more meaning. I love Calzaghe, but you will never catch me defending the Manfredo fight. There are some fights that the fan of boxing would much rather just skip. Hornfinger is right that 90% of fights are pointless, but you expect the ratio to go down markedly when it comes to world title fights. But yeah, not always the case.
Haye with only 3 or 4 fights left is of course right to take easy money, but the boxing purist always wants more than money to add to the legacy. Of course, it's as a boxing fan that I am always coming from. The money option doesn't really compute for me.
Just stop calling people mugs for paying for boxing.
It's no different to calling people mugs for paying to see certain movies, concerts, sporting events, that you don't like. Most paying boxing fans are not forum nerds like us lot. They don't care whether a fighter "deserves" it or the "meaning" of it, they just want to enjoy themselves.
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So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Yup.
IMO peter ain't in shape. If he hasn't been ko'ed by the seventh he'll sure as hell be spent physically.
Sam Peter is ten times better fighter than Audley though, no matter if he is a 12 round fighter or not, Audley poses and fights 45 second round his stamina is shocking, he has a nice pair of pecs and abs woop dee doo daa, does not mean he is in shape.
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skel1983
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Hornfinger
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ono
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Yup.
IMO peter ain't in shape. If he hasn't been ko'ed by the seventh he'll sure as hell be spent physically.
Sam Peter is ten times better fighter than Audley though, no matter if he is a 12 round fighter or not, Audley poses and fights 45 second round his stamina is shocking, he has a nice pair of pecs and abs woop dee doo daa, does not mean he is in shape.
lol Audley is in better shape than sam peter simple. Thats done and closed.
Just seen a bit of the press conference. Amusing stuff actually....
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It's no different to calling people mugs for paying to see certain movies, concerts, sporting events, that you don't like. Most paying boxing fans are not forum nerds like us lot. They don't care whether a fighter "deserves" it or the "meaning" of it, they just want to enjoy themselves.
This made me LOL. ;D
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Re: Haye/Harrison Press conference tomorrow
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Hornfinger
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skel1983
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Hornfinger
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ono
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Yup.
IMO peter ain't in shape. If he hasn't been ko'ed by the seventh he'll sure as hell be spent physically.
Sam Peter is ten times better fighter than Audley though, no matter if he is a 12 round fighter or not, Audley poses and fights 45 second round his stamina is shocking, he has a nice pair of pecs and abs woop dee doo daa, does not mean he is in shape.
lol Audley is in better shape than sam peter simple. Thats done and closed.
Just seen a bit of the press conference. Amusing stuff actually....
For what it's worth Harrison beat Peter in the amatuers just before the Olympics. Both fighters are too shit to be ten times better than any human. ;D
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koppas
I think it will finally sink in when I see those two clowns in the same room that it really IS happening. I always hoped it was a smokescreen for someone else but, no, David Haye REALLY is cleaning up the division - by fighting Audley Harrison.
What a chicken.
Yeah, it's beyond lame isn't it. A fighter who fights twice a year tops and wants to be retired in a handful of fights going on to fight.....Audley Harrison?
The public are mugs and he knows it.
How are the public mugs? People that buy this fight are paying to be
entertained. How do you know they won't get that?
The are mugs because they are buying into a meaningless fight. Audley Harrison has done nothing to deserve a shot at the title. From what I have seen of Harrison he is not particularly entertaining and doesn't throw. Haye is going to be all over him and it will likely be over early. I like good competitive fights and this is clearly not one of them.
It's a rubbish matchup, Fenster. Fact.
Don't watch it then. Simple.
Just because it doesn't interest you it doesn't make fans that will watch it mugs. Whatever happens many fans will have an entertaining night - hardcore and casual.
You might as well say - anyone that doesn't share your interests are mugs.
I won't watch it. No way am I waking up at 6am to watch this. The only chance I will watch is a replay if Harrison lands the lucky shot.
No proper boxing fan is genuinely going to enjoy this charade. It's a farcical matchup. World boxing champ against ancient domestic opponent who hasn't beaten anybody. Pointless.
I think the people who want to see decent title fights are well within their rights to expect such a thing. A title shot should be earned and not handed out to anybody.
We all know that if there is money to be thrown at nothing then it can happen, but only mugs are paying to watch Audley Harrison at this stage.
Have you ever
bought tickets or PPV for a boxing fight?
Considering that I have spent the past 8 years out of country where the option for doing so doesn't exist I would have to say no. If I had the options you can bet your life I would, the good fights I would watch and others I would skip.
I hope you are not going to lead onto the "you don't pay for it therefore you shouldn't have an opinion" type of argument. I'm a boxing fan and like to see good fights. The fact that I live in Asia shouldn't really exclude me from boxing and having opinions entirely.
That's fair enough. You are a
mug too then.
Some mugs like different boxing events to you, thats all ;)
I hope you are including yourself in this rampant muggery, Fenster. After all wasn't it Shakespeare who said "We are all but mugs with bowels of tea and coffee". Or was it Marlowe? I always get them confused.
If people are genuinely up for this fight, then fair enough. But on the forums I only really see mockery and condemnation. Most of us know that it isn't a real or particularly meaningful fight. I'm sure the ensuing KO will make some laugh, but I just like my big fights with a little more meaning. I love Calzaghe, but you will never catch me defending the Manfredo fight. There are some fights that the fan of boxing would much rather just skip. Hornfinger is right that 90% of fights are pointless, but you expect the ratio to go down markedly when it comes to world title fights. But yeah, not always the case.
Haye with only 3 or 4 fights left is of course right to take easy money, but the boxing purist always wants more than money to add to the legacy. Of course, it's as a boxing fan that I am always coming from. The money option doesn't really compute for me.
Just stop calling people mugs for paying for boxing.
It's no different to calling people mugs for paying to see certain movies, concerts, sporting events, that you don't like. Most paying boxing fans are not forum nerds like us lot. They don't care whether a fighter "deserves" it or the "meaning" of it, they just want to enjoy themselves.
Yeah, you have a point there. They just want a battle of Britain and they have that. And you know that is fair enough. But if Haye doesn't go for the Klits after this, then he deserves far harsher mockery!
Just as I want to see Manny fight Mayweather, I also want to see Haye take on a Klit. Is that too much to ask? LaMotta fought Robinson about 183 times and yet in this day and age nobody will fight even the one time. When even the filler takes six months, you have to wonder will you ever get the big fight.
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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Fenster
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miles
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koppas
I think it will finally sink in when I see those two clowns in the same room that it really IS happening. I always hoped it was a smokescreen for someone else but, no, David Haye REALLY is cleaning up the division - by fighting Audley Harrison.
What a chicken.
Yeah, it's beyond lame isn't it. A fighter who fights twice a year tops and wants to be retired in a handful of fights going on to fight.....Audley Harrison?
The public are mugs and he knows it.
How are the public mugs? People that buy this fight are paying to be
entertained. How do you know they won't get that?
The are mugs because they are buying into a meaningless fight. Audley Harrison has done nothing to deserve a shot at the title. From what I have seen of Harrison he is not particularly entertaining and doesn't throw. Haye is going to be all over him and it will likely be over early. I like good competitive fights and this is clearly not one of them.
It's a rubbish matchup, Fenster. Fact.
Don't watch it then. Simple.
Just because it doesn't interest you it doesn't make fans that will watch it mugs. Whatever happens many fans will have an entertaining night - hardcore and casual.
You might as well say - anyone that doesn't share your interests are mugs.
I won't watch it. No way am I waking up at 6am to watch this. The only chance I will watch is a replay if Harrison lands the lucky shot.
No proper boxing fan is genuinely going to enjoy this charade. It's a farcical matchup. World boxing champ against ancient domestic opponent who hasn't beaten anybody. Pointless.
I think the people who want to see decent title fights are well within their rights to expect such a thing. A title shot should be earned and not handed out to anybody.
We all know that if there is money to be thrown at nothing then it can happen, but only mugs are paying to watch Audley Harrison at this stage.
Have you ever
bought tickets or PPV for a boxing fight?
Considering that I have spent the past 8 years out of country where the option for doing so doesn't exist I would have to say no. If I had the options you can bet your life I would, the good fights I would watch and others I would skip.
I hope you are not going to lead onto the "you don't pay for it therefore you shouldn't have an opinion" type of argument. I'm a boxing fan and like to see good fights. The fact that I live in Asia shouldn't really exclude me from boxing and having opinions entirely.
That's fair enough. You are a
mug too then.
Some mugs like different boxing events to you, thats all ;)
I hope you are including yourself in this rampant muggery, Fenster. After all wasn't it Shakespeare who said "We are all but mugs with bowels of tea and coffee". Or was it Marlowe? I always get them confused.
If people are genuinely up for this fight, then fair enough. But on the forums I only really see mockery and condemnation. Most of us know that it isn't a real or particularly meaningful fight. I'm sure the ensuing KO will make some laugh, but I just like my big fights with a little more meaning. I love Calzaghe, but you will never catch me defending the Manfredo fight. There are some fights that the fan of boxing would much rather just skip. Hornfinger is right that 90% of fights are pointless, but you expect the ratio to go down markedly when it comes to world title fights. But yeah, not always the case.
Haye with only 3 or 4 fights left is of course right to take easy money, but the boxing purist always wants more than money to add to the legacy. Of course, it's as a boxing fan that I am always coming from. The money option doesn't really compute for me.
Just stop calling people mugs for paying for boxing.
It's no different to calling people mugs for paying to see certain movies, concerts, sporting events, that you don't like. Most paying boxing fans are not forum nerds like us lot. They don't care whether a fighter "deserves" it or the "meaning" of it, they just want to enjoy themselves.
Yeah, you have a point there. They just want a battle of Britain and they have that. And you know that is fair enough. But if Haye doesn't go for the Klits after this, then he deserves far harsher mockery!
Just as I want to see Manny fight Mayweather, I also want to see Haye take on a Klit. Is that too much to ask? LaMotta fought Robinson about 183 times and yet in this day and age nobody will fight even the one time. When even the filler takes six months, you have to wonder will you ever get the big fight.
All hardcore boxing nerds agree with you. We want Haye-Klit, Pac-Mayweather, Khan-Bradley etc...
Haye deserves shit because as a top 4 ranked heavyweight and "world" champion there are far more harder challenges than the European champion - Audley. However, barring a Klit, there really aren't any bigger money fights for him than Audley. Adamek, Arreola, Peter.. these guys are unknowns to the wider British public. It's just business.
If Robinson and LaMotta could have earned £10million for one fight they would have been once a year fighters too.
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Re: Haye/Harrison Press conference tomorrow
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ono
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Hornfinger
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skel1983
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Hornfinger
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ono
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Yup.
IMO peter ain't in shape. If he hasn't been ko'ed by the seventh he'll sure as hell be spent physically.
Sam Peter is ten times better fighter than Audley though, no matter if he is a 12 round fighter or not, Audley poses and fights 45 second round his stamina is shocking, he has a nice pair of pecs and abs woop dee doo daa, does not mean he is in shape.
lol Audley is in better shape than sam peter simple. Thats done and closed.
Just seen a bit of the press conference. Amusing stuff actually....
For what it's worth Harrison beat Peter in the amatuers just before the Olympics. Both fighters are too shit to be ten times better than any human. ;D
To be fair mate Augie Sanchez beat Floyd Mayweather in the amatuers, in the pro game Sam Peter would smash Audley to pieces. Audleys best win is still a 2 week notice shot fat out of shape Danny Williams five years ago.
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Audley:
" Look at the knockouts and the people I have knocked out "
:vd:
3 Bouncers, a farmer from Ireland and a bin man, if memory serves me correctly.
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These two are great salesmen. I bet this fight ends up massive when Sky start promoting the shit out of it to all the football crowd and what not.
Audley - "I never felt your power in sparring"
Haye - "cause you were cowering in the corner"
;D
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after watching that i'm actually hoping that Fraudley knocks Haye the fuck out lol that would be even sweeter than being whooped by either Klitschko lol
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No, I disagree. I found that press conference painful. A lot of that was so forced. It was admitted that Audley didn't deserve a shot. It was admitted that it was for the public (ie. a conman enterprise).
Where is the entertainment in such a charade? And obviously there is no meaning whatsoever.
It's just such a stupid fight.
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No, I disagree. I found that press conference painful. A lot of that was so forced. It was admitted that Audley didn't deserve a shot. It was admitted that it was for the public (ie. a conman enterprise).
Where is the entertainment in such a charade? And obviously there is no meaning whatsoever.
It's just such a stupid fight.
i suppose every champ should get an easy 1st defence
remember riddick bowe fought dokes then ferguson or the other way round?
