Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
No, they're about trying to protect people from being picked on, and in some cases killed, by ignorant dumb-as-shit members of the majority.
So prior laws did not protect those classes of people then? Murder, assault, those things just didn't cover minorities?
Damn...we could have all been out killing emos....FUCK! We fucking missed our golden opportunity!!!
They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?
They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?
They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?
OK, that's fine they are a minority and they are being picked on well the authorities in charge of protecting 100% of their citizens should be aware of this and offer protection. Not in the form of discriminatory laws, but just by enforcing the laws currently on record....are the laws broken? Why isn't assault being charged if someone is beaten up? Why isn't murder being charged if someone is killed?
Ethnicity & sexual orientation aren't "choices" (I guess, I mean I'm not gay so I don't understand how people come to the conclusion that they are...not an insult, I'm just saying I don't know how the process goes). Being emo/goth/punk is a CHOICE....do we see how that might be stretching these already discriminatory "hate crime" laws a bit thin? What's next "Oh, it's a hate crime if you don't invite me to your birthday party because I have low self esteem"? Or "It's a hate crime for you to have peanut butter in your lunch because I'm allergic to peanut butter...how could you, you soulless bastard?!?!"
But hey I'm a white, Anglo-Saxon, heterosexual, Christian, male....so what have I got to worry about, I mean it's not like anyone hates me ;)
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?
They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?
OK, that's fine they are a minority and they are being picked on well the authorities in charge of protecting 100% of their citizens should be aware of this and offer protection. Not in the form of discriminatory laws, but just by enforcing the laws currently on record....are the laws broken? Why isn't assault being charged if someone is beaten up? Why isn't murder being charged if someone is killed?
Ethnicity & sexual orientation aren't "choices" (I guess, I mean I'm not gay so I don't understand how people come to the conclusion that they are...not an insult, I'm just saying I don't know how the process goes). Being emo/goth/punk is a
CHOICE....do we see how that might be stretching these already discriminatory "hate crime" laws a bit thin? What's next "Oh, it's a hate crime if you don't invite me to your birthday party because I have low self esteem"? Or "It's a hate crime for you to have peanut butter in your lunch because I'm allergic to peanut butter...how could you, you soulless bastard?!?!"
But hey I'm a white, Anglo-Saxon, heterosexual, Christian, male....so what have I got to worry about, I mean it's not like anyone hates me ;)
The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.
And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.
And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.
Umm yeah it IS discriminating and I'll show you how. Now pay attention little one ;)
A murders B, A is caught, charged with murder and given the typical sentence nothing special 18-life
A murders C, C is a minority, A is charged with murder AND a hate crime and a harsher sentence is handed down.
Is B any LESS of a person than C? 2 lives were taken, the end result is IDENTICAL but why are the punishments different?
What I am trying to say is because I'm white I WON'T be "protected" by hate crime legislation, it has fucking happened already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders...stopher_Newsom ...there ya go partner, read that
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.
And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.
Umm yeah it IS discriminating and I'll show you how. Now pay attention little one ;)
A murders B, A is caught, charged with murder and given the typical sentence nothing special 18-life
A murders C, C is a minority, A is charged with murder AND a hate crime and a harsher sentence is handed down.
Is B any LESS of a person than C? 2 lives were taken, the end result is IDENTICAL but why are the punishments different?
Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.
And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.
And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?
You're just trolling me. You can't actually be this dumb.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.
And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?
You're just trolling me. You can't actually be this dumb.
Person B & Person C are dead but for ONE death Person A gets one sentence and for the other he gets a HARSHER sentence ergo Person C's life is more important than Person B's life. You're one dense son of a bitch
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.
And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?
You're just trolling me. You can't actually be this dumb.
Person B & Person C are dead but for ONE death Person A gets one sentence and for the other he gets a HARSHER sentence ergo Person C's life is more important than Person B's life. You're one dense son of a bitch
Again, it's just your racial paranoia talking. You can have a crime passionelle murder where a white woman or man kills their unfaithful spouse or their lover and this will attract a lesser sentence than a white person killing anoher white person in a premeditated murder. A hate crime, even a hate crime where a black person kills a white person, will generally attract a harsher sentence than a, let's say "vanilla" murder.
I know things like this emo thing make you see the dead hand of political correctness taking your rights as a white person away and giving them all to minorities but it's simply because you're a racially paranoid crybaby who is becoming more and more sensitive to these things as white Christian folks lose their political and economic power in your home country. And it's only going to get worse as America becomes a more inclusive and equal society. Better to make your peace with it rather than let it destroy your life.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Again, it's just your racial paranoia talking. You can have a crime passionelle murder where a white woman or man kills their unfaithful spouse or their lover and this will attract a lesser sentence than a white person killing anoher white person in a premeditated murder. A hate crime, even a hate crime where a black person kills a white person, will generally attract a harsher sentence than a, let's say "vanilla" murder.
I know things like this emo thing make you see the dead hand of political correctness taking your rights as a white person away and giving them all to minorities but it's simply because you're a racially paranoid crybaby who is becoming more and more sensitive to these things as white Christian folks lose their political and economic power in your home country. And it's only going to get worse as America becomes a more inclusive and equal society. Better to make your peace with it rather than let it destroy your life.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
....Again, 2 white people targeted & murdered because they were white and 0 hate crime penalty, wasn't even called a "hate crime" and this is not the exception to the rule either.
I'm not saying "Gee I should be able to go out & hurt minorities without repercussion" I'm saying a person is a person is a person if you kill a person you should pay the penalty regardless of their color, religion, etc....if you murder someone on purpose or had a murder planned out then that deserves harsher punishment, but race, religion, etc shouldn't factor into the punishment because life is life one is not worth more or less due to subtle differences like what music they enjoy.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Again, it's just your racial paranoia talking. You can have a crime passionelle murder where a white woman or man kills their unfaithful spouse or their lover and this will attract a lesser sentence than a white person killing anoher white person in a premeditated murder. A hate crime, even a hate crime where a black person kills a white person, will generally attract a harsher sentence than a, let's say "vanilla" murder.
I know things like this emo thing make you see the dead hand of political correctness taking your rights as a white person away and giving them all to minorities but it's simply because you're a racially paranoid crybaby who is becoming more and more sensitive to these things as white Christian folks lose their political and economic power in your home country. And it's only going to get worse as America becomes a more inclusive and equal society. Better to make your peace with it rather than let it destroy your life.
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
....Again, 2 white people targeted & murdered because they were white and
0 hate crime penalty, wasn't even called a "hate crime" and this is not the exception to the rule either.
I'm not saying "Gee I should be able to go out & hurt minorities without repercussion" I'm saying a person is a person is a person if you kill a person you should pay the penalty regardless of their color, religion, etc....if you murder someone on purpose or had a murder planned out then that deserves harsher punishment, but race, religion, etc shouldn't factor into the punishment because life is life one is not worth more or less due to subtle differences like what music they enjoy.
From your own link :
"There is absolutely no proof of a hate crime," said John Gill, special counsel to Knox County District Atty. Randy Nichols. "We know from our investigation that the people charged in this case were friends with white people, socialized with white people, dated white people. So not only is there no evidence of any racial animus, there's evidence to the contrary."[47]
I'm guessing the DA is appointed by a guy who has to get elected, and elected in Tennessee by Tennessee voters, and even that combination didn't feel they could justify calling it a hate crime.
I also notice the trial "attracted the attention of white supremacists". Like I said, make your peace with the whole thing or the rest of your life is going to be unending paranoia and bed wetting.
Re: "Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws
Hahaha.... I have black friends, but do I get the benefit of the doubt? Then again I don't go around raping and murdering people
