"Emos" now protected by "hate crime" laws

[Kirkland Laing]

No, they're about trying to protect people from being picked on, and in some cases killed, by ignorant dumb-as-shit members of the majority.

So prior laws did not protect those classes of people then? Murder, assault, those things just didn't cover minorities?


Damn...we could have all been out killing emos....FUCK! We fucking missed our golden opportunity!!!

They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?

They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?

[El Kabong]

They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?

They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?

OK, that's fine they are a minority and they are being picked on well the authorities in charge of protecting 100% of their citizens should be aware of this and offer protection. Not in the form of discriminatory laws, but just by enforcing the laws currently on record....are the laws broken? Why isn't assault being charged if someone is beaten up? Why isn't murder being charged if someone is killed?

Ethnicity & sexual orientation aren't "choices" (I guess, I mean I'm not gay so I don't understand how people come to the conclusion that they are...not an insult, I'm just saying I don't know how the process goes). Being emo/goth/punk is a CHOICE....do we see how that might be stretching these already discriminatory "hate crime" laws a bit thin? What's next "Oh, it's a hate crime if you don't invite me to your birthday party because I have low self esteem"? Or "It's a hate crime for you to have peanut butter in your lunch because I'm allergic to peanut butter...how could you, you soulless bastard?!?!"

But hey I'm a white, Anglo-Saxon, heterosexual, Christian, male....so what have I got to worry about, I mean it's not like anyone hates me

[Kirkland Laing]

They're being picked on because they're a distinctive minority. The justice system is now going to use the power of the courts and the press to persuade the mindless thugs who attack them for (whatever reason) not to attack them. And that's a good thing! I think we're all in favour of no young kids getting smashed up, brain damaged or worse just because of the way they look. Right?

They're being afforded the protection that the law also gives to other vulnerable groups, ethnic minorities, gay people and so on. To try and prevent violence and death brought upon a group of people for no other reason than they offend the sensibilities of a number of violent idiots. What part of this don't you understand?

OK, that's fine they are a minority and they are being picked on well the authorities in charge of protecting 100% of their citizens should be aware of this and offer protection. Not in the form of discriminatory laws, but just by enforcing the laws currently on record....are the laws broken? Why isn't assault being charged if someone is beaten up? Why isn't murder being charged if someone is killed?

Ethnicity & sexual orientation aren't "choices" (I guess, I mean I'm not gay so I don't understand how people come to the conclusion that they are...not an insult, I'm just saying I don't know how the process goes). Being emo/goth/punk is a CHOICE....do we see how that might be stretching these already discriminatory "hate crime" laws a bit thin? What's next "Oh, it's a hate crime if you don't invite me to your birthday party because I have low self esteem"? Or "It's a hate crime for you to have peanut butter in your lunch because I'm allergic to peanut butter...how could you, you soulless bastard?!?!"

But hey I'm a white, Anglo-Saxon, heterosexual, Christian, male....so what have I got to worry about, I mean it's not like anyone hates me

The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.

And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.

[El Kabong]

The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.

And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.

Umm yeah it IS discriminating and I'll show you how. Now pay attention little one

A murders B, A is caught, charged with murder and given the typical sentence nothing special 18-life

A murders C, C is a minority, A is charged with murder AND a hate crime and a harsher sentence is handed down.

Is B any LESS of a person than C? 2 lives were taken, the end result is IDENTICAL but why are the punishments different?



What I am trying to say is because I'm white I WON'T be "protected" by hate crime legislation, it has fucking happened already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders...stopher_Newsom ...there ya go partner, read that

[Kirkland Laing]

The law isn't discriminating. They're publicising this to make voilent thugs out there aware that attacking people because they're emos will bring the same kind of sanction as attacking ethnic minorities or gay people.

And yes, you're a white male. You're a member of the majority and you've got far less to fear than any minority, your racial paranoia notwithstanding. But if somebody ever does attack you because you're white then you'll be afforded the same protection under the law as any other victim of a hate crime.

Umm yeah it IS discriminating and I'll show you how. Now pay attention little one

A murders B, A is caught, charged with murder and given the typical sentence nothing special 18-life

A murders C, C is a minority, A is charged with murder AND a hate crime and a harsher sentence is handed down.

Is B any LESS of a person than C? 2 lives were taken, the end result is IDENTICAL but why are the punishments different?

Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.

[El Kabong]

Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.

And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?

[Kirkland Laing]

Because in the hate crime case a jury decided the murderer was guilty of a hate crime.

And the other guy walked away from being murdered because he wasn't a minority? That how it works then?

You're just trolling me. You can't actually be this dumb.