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You're right but that's part of the game. Remember the saying, all is fair in war and love. Btw, did they really steal them? I thought they voluntarily defected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
You would voluntarily defect if you were threatened with being shot. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanYou're right but that's part of the game. Remember the saying, all is fair in war and love. Btw, did they really steal them? I thought they voluntarily defected.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Lol, I got what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou would voluntarily defect if you were threatened with being shot. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanYou're right but that's part of the game. Remember the saying, all is fair in war and love. Btw, did they really steal them? I thought they voluntarily defected.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
I went to Berlin this past October and doing the tours around the war areas was really quite sad. Berlin really got torn the fuck up, you forget it wasn't just a country full of evil Nazis, most of the victims like usual were just normal everyday people. As we were in certain areas the guide would talk about what the area used to be like before the war.
Reminds me of a movie I like called U571.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Good movie for war buffs.
U571 good movie. And yes master. The German scientists were in a rush to surrender to the US as the Russians closed in. Not all the scientists were clean of war crimes but the US pulled some magic to clean their records. The US space program evolved from the German V2 rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeReminds me of a movie I like called U571.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Good movie for war buffs.
U571Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusU571 good movie. And yes master. The German scientists were in a rush to surrender to the US as the Russians closed in. Not all the scientists were clean of war crimes but the US pulled some magic to clean their records. The US space program evolved from the German V2 rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeReminds me of a movie I like called U571.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Good movie for war buffs.
You know how in the film it's an American crew that go in? I guess being a worldly man you know that it was actually Brits?
That pissed us off.
Tony Blair even called it 'an affront to British sailors'.
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Originally Posted by ryanmanU571Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusU571 good movie. And yes master. The German scientists were in a rush to surrender to the US as the Russians closed in. Not all the scientists were clean of war crimes but the US pulled some magic to clean their records. The US space program evolved from the German V2 rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeReminds me of a movie I like called U571.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI thought the US stole all the best German scientists so were ahead of the space race and nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Good movie for war buffs.
You know how in the film it's an American crew that go in? I guess being a worldly man you know that it was actually Brits?
That pissed us off.
Tony Blair even called it 'an affront to British sailors'.
Say it ain't so!
Can't be.
That would be trifling, tacky and pussified-
Or as some would call:rewriting history.
C'mon tell me your pulling my leg, F'in with me just to see me trip.
@ryanman:Say it ain't so!
Actually @ryanman I don't think the first enigma machine was actually captured in a sub. It's been a long time since I've seen the movie. Now I need to look up the whole story of how the limeys captured the first enigma machine, if indeed there were more than one.
Yes, England had the enigma machine prior to the war, apparently, the poles handed it off. I guess some of the innards were missing so the taking of the second machine was quite brilliant. It is sad that the American movie gives no factually account of what happened. Then again, Jon Bon Jovi was in the movie.
What do you think is the best WW2 movie. My vote goes to saving private Ryan. I know it wasn't based on a true story but the d day landing pays tribute to what those guys went through. Eastwoods flags of our fathers and letters from Iwo Jima were phenomenal.
Saving Pvt. Ryan isn't too legit to quit either?
What could I have expected from a Hollywood that made up a talking elephant named Mr.Snufalufagous and a purple dinosaur with homosexual tendencies.
Thanks a lot walrus...ryanman..
People with Nazi past collected $20.2m in US retirement benefits, says report
Findings by US inspector general, seen in advance by Associated Press, say 130 linked to wartime atrocities were able to receive social security payments
People with Nazi past collected $20.2m in US retirement benefits, says report | US news | The Guardian
Well observed. I always try to look at the other side in politics as you know that you are only going to get one side. Churchill was a war criminal psychopath and people should know that. It doesn't matter how it is spun, but he ordered the destruction of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and starved to death 4 million Indians amongst many other things. You add up the numbers and he was an english speaking Hitler minus the moustache. 'Blasphemy' they cry as they build the new reich themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker