From that article it sounds like Spence is gutted Brook didn't vacate the title for him. Shitting it.
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From that article it sounds like Spence is gutted Brook didn't vacate the title for him. Shitting it.
The same as I don't think Brook is shitting it, I don't think Spence is.
Ok, sometimes you get to win a World title a bit easier, but hey it should be hard. After all, you get to call yourself Champion of the WORLD!
It's how it should be.
I can't believe for a second Brook would or should fear any fighter after getting in with Golovkin and managing to back him up a few times, bloody his nose and visibly mark him up.... (How many genuine Middleweights have done that to GGG)
Brooks proved beyond any doubt he's hard as nails but he's 31 soon and it'd be such a waste if he didn't take this fight, he needs to fight names non stop from now on and make himself a proper legacy.
This is a 50-50 fight on paper all day long, Spence has arguably been in with as good a Welterweight as Brook and his KO ratio is a massive 86% to Brooks 68%.
Brook narrowly beat Porter and at 147 got the fight of his life against Carson Jones.
Good fighters but by no means the top guys in the division, Spence has fought at a similar level in Bundu and Algieri but smashed them to bits in the process.
These two are gonna go for it and this has got the ingredients to be fight of the year.
I just think Spence's speed might be too much for Brook if it goes past 7-8 rounds
I think Spence will make a show of Brook. But hey at least he has Khan to fall back on for another pay day.
I honestly don't think it's a 50/50 fight. Before moving up to fight GGG, I think I was about 75-80% sure that Spence wins. Brook was already big for WW and having to gain all that weight then coming back down to 147 after not having to make it in a long time, I don't think Brook will be what he once was at that weight. I give Spence a 90% chance to win.
I would honestly be surprised if Brook won. That's how highly I think of Spence. From all of my years watching boxing (15 years), I've never been higher on an up and coming fighter as I have been of Spence. Brook is good, but Spence is so fast and is very skilled. He will break Brook by the mid rounds and Brook will just try to survive.
I keep flipping back & forth. Brooks struggle with Jones. Spence isn't too hard to hit. Brook returning after the eye injury and the loss to GGG. Spence traveling. Will there be VADA testing? Such an intriguing fight with lots of different variables. EXCITED.
I think the IBF go with the local commission on drug testing so UKAD/WADA testing.
Going up and down in weight rarely works out. Brook looked a bag of shit against Jones at 147 then looked the business at 152 or whatever it was for the return. He's clearly a better fighter a shade north of 147lbs. Brook used every ounce of the weight for the Golovkin fight, he was 176lbs a month out was it? Everyone went mental. I think despite doing things properly these days, making weight is going to kill him.
I didn't really mean Spence was shitting it - tongue in cheek (depending on your bias you can read whatever you want into any comment/article).
And I didn't mean Burns/Witt/Brad/Craw to be compared literally. Like the yanks in those fights I think Spence will prove to be a P4P job. Without doubt Brook is far superior to the Brits in those fights though - talent and substance. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit shocked if Brook beats the living shit out of Spence, just think the timing is right for the American because of the weight issue for Kell plus Spence is the real deal.
I even think it's dodgy for Kell to go back to 147 for Khan. And i'm adamant that pre-Golovkin Brook would iron Khan out everyday of the week and a month of sundays.
I really want to back Brook. I backed Porter to beat him and he showed how good he is in that fight and if he could make 147 easy and hadn't just taken a bit of punishment in the Golovkin fight I'd feel comfortable going for Brook. I'm probably going to go for Spence though.
Sucks seeing so many talking about weight. Seems rather absurd to me making such excuses pre-fight.
Oh but Roy, Roy put on much more mass. And he was 35 by the time he lost.
Dropping 13 pounds in 9 months is nothing. The injury actually helped him weight wise because it gave more time to get back to normal size. Remember, Kell carried the extra weight a very short amount of time. And that's critical. Put on 5 pounds and then drop it. Then put on 5 pounds and carry it for a year then drop it. You will see a distinct difference.
Just put all the excuses to the side. We have a great fight here and that happens very rarely in this sport. Enjoy it.
I'm not using it as an excuse & I don't think others are either. It is something that needs to be taken into consideration tho. Just like how Brook looks after his injury & how he is after the GGG loss. It's not an excuse but a reality. Brook may come in unaffected & near 100% but we won't know until the fight. I would have thought a boxing forum would be the perfect place to discuss such possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
That right there is telling and noticeable in spots. He can sit still and tall unloading that awesome arsenal. Not glaring but you can see it. I'm thinking it's more that he's dominating and has gauged those opponents rather than something that's not fixable when in the mix. Lets hope. Still, a dumb habit for any fighter to 'except' shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
He was struggling massively to make 147 for fights before the Golovkin fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It's not an excuse to wonder how much getting back down to 147 is going to take out of him. It's not like he lives a monastic lifestyle in between fights. He would probably have been 200 going into camp for this fight.
Mmmm..I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Spence has to really put Brook away unless he wants a biased decision against him.
How good is spence anyway?
We will all know after this fight.
Perhaps you and others don't know what excuse means? There is absolutely nothing in the word excuse that means it is not reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI'm not using it as an excuse & I don't think others are either. It is something that needs to be taken into consideration tho. Just like how Brook looks after his injury & how he is after the GGG loss. It's not an excuse but a reality. Brook may come in unaffected & near 100% but we won't know until the fight. I would have thought a boxing forum would be the perfect place to discuss such possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson