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The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.
I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.
I am OK now and recovering.
The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.
I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.
I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
preach
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Greenberg is the fear mongering fella behind Chelorex. Here he is - https://archive.is/KnP3m#selection-191.85-191.93
He speaks at Tree of life ministries ...so yeah ..preach indeed ;D https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=bA8lGQZjAh8
And he believes that removing his metal fillings was not enought to cure his sudden illness and his formula ( the big Pharma corelation is hilarious) can remove all heavy metals from the body and cure anything from heart disease to autism.
He was struck off for being not competent to practice medicine. Page 3 here - https://www.mbp.state.md.us/forms/winter_2001.pdf
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
spergy larry, why are you introducing all these red herrings to distract from the statement i posted? i don't even know who the guy is or care. i just agree with what is stated. no one is forcing you to agree with that statement, everything else you have posted is irrelevant to the statement i posted
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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Master
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
So you would just die by not going to hospital?
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.
Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.
Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.
You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.
I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.
each to their own, like i said, ones health is ones responsibility. i'm not interested in what the medical community recommends. they are the ones profiting off peoples continued sickness. i do agree with your statement on lifestyle choices. i also agree on the engine comparison, i see the body as a sort of machine & i'm the ghost in the shell, the better i take care of the machine the longer it will last & the better it will run. i also never condemned an entire community, i did say i don't believe all in the medical industry are this way. if you believe a balance helps, all power to you but i'll never take any medications again in my lifetime
We seem to be arguing different things. I'm not here advocating every single medication as good. I'm rather focusing on medical tests of all types. Blood tests, cancer screening tests, etc. I just don't see how one can argue against these things. Having a test performed is different than sitting in a doctor's office and having him/her tell you what pills to pop. In fact... I'm not a doctor... but I can reasonably trudge my way through some test results in order to see how I'm doing in certain aspects. So I'm not some medical sales representative out there pushing pills. I'm also well aware that some doctors turn their noses up at natural remedies and other natural approaches to medicine. But just like an engine performance printout can help you diagnose and/or prevent problems with an engine... so can medical tests do the same with the human body.
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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TIC
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
So you would just die by not going to hospital?
i could also die by going to the hospital. the hope for me is that what i have been doing over the last decade & will continue to do everyday will help me keep from getting a serious illness
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.
Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.
Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.
You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.
I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.
each to their own, like i said, ones health is ones responsibility. i'm not interested in what the medical community recommends. they are the ones profiting off peoples continued sickness. i do agree with your statement on lifestyle choices. i also agree on the engine comparison, i see the body as a sort of machine & i'm the ghost in the shell, the better i take care of the machine the longer it will last & the better it will run. i also never condemned an entire community, i did say i don't believe all in the medical industry are this way. if you believe a balance helps, all power to you but i'll never take any medications again in my lifetime
We seem to be arguing different things. I'm not here advocating every single medication as good. I'm rather focusing on medical tests of all types. Blood tests, cancer screening tests, etc. I just don't see how one can argue against these things. Having a test performed is different than sitting in a doctor's office and having him/her tell you what pills to pop. In fact... I'm not a doctor... but I can reasonably trudge my way through some test results in order to see how I'm doing in certain aspects. So I'm not some medical sales representative out there pushing pills. I'm also well aware that some doctors turn their noses up at natural remedies and other natural approaches to medicine. But just like an engine performance printout can help you diagnose and/or prevent problems with an engine... so can medical tests do the same with the human body.
you & i are not arguing different things. you think tests & screening are beneficial for you & i feel i don't need them in my life
Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.
Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.
Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.
You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.
I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.
each to their own, like i said, ones health is ones responsibility. i'm not interested in what the medical community recommends. they are the ones profiting off peoples continued sickness. i do agree with your statement on lifestyle choices. i also agree on the engine comparison, i see the body as a sort of machine & i'm the ghost in the shell, the better i take care of the machine the longer it will last & the better it will run. i also never condemned an entire community, i did say i don't believe all in the medical industry are this way. if you believe a balance helps, all power to you but i'll never take any medications again in my lifetime
We seem to be arguing different things. I'm not here advocating every single medication as good. I'm rather focusing on medical tests of all types. Blood tests, cancer screening tests, etc. I just don't see how one can argue against these things. Having a test performed is different than sitting in a doctor's office and having him/her tell you what pills to pop. In fact... I'm not a doctor... but I can reasonably trudge my way through some test results in order to see how I'm doing in certain aspects. So I'm not some medical sales representative out there pushing pills. I'm also well aware that some doctors turn their noses up at natural remedies and other natural approaches to medicine. But just like an engine performance printout can help you diagnose and/or prevent problems with an engine... so can medical tests do the same with the human body.
you & i are not arguing different things. you think tests & screening are beneficial for you & i feel i don't need them in my life
Well you had mentioned medicines, so I thought you were only discussing that.
If you don't feel you need any type of medical tests or screening... ever... then I guess that's your prerogative.
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spergy larry, why are you introducing all these red herrings to distract from the statement i posted? i don't even know who the guy is or care. i just agree with what is stated. no one is forcing you to agree with that statement, everything else you have posted is irrelevant to the statement i posted
They are not red herrings they are unavoidable facts that demonstrate both how gullible you are and how stupid the quote itself is.
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
So you would just die by not going to hospital?
i could also die by going to the hospital. the hope for me is that what i have been doing over the last decade & will continue to do everyday will help me keep from getting a serious illness
Can't go on hope alone especially as you get older. Serious illness require medical intervention.
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spergy larry, why are you introducing all these red herrings to distract from the statement i posted? i don't even know who the guy is or care. i just agree with what is stated. no one is forcing you to agree with that statement, everything else you have posted is irrelevant to the statement i posted
They are not red herrings they are unavoidable facts that demonstrate both how gullible you are and how stupid the quote itself is.
yes they are spergy larry, i only agree with the statement i posted, everything else is stuff you have introduced as red herrings to attack. if you don't agree with the statement, that is your right. you are the stupid retard who puts your health in the hands of those who profit of your continued illness & why do you care how another people choose to manage their health?
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
So you would just die by not going to hospital?
i could also die by going to the hospital. the hope for me is that what i have been doing over the last decade & will continue to do everyday will help me keep from getting a serious illness
Can't go on hope alone especially as you get older. Serious illness require medical intervention.
why not, you don't sound very healthy. i don't think you're the best person to be giving health advise
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
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TIC
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Master
What would you do if you were having a heart attack Tic?
have a heart attack i guess, i don't really understand your question. are you asking if i'd go to the hospital and/ or take medication?
Yes hospital and take medication?
no i won't
So you would just die by not going to hospital?
i could also die by going to the hospital. the hope for me is that what i have been doing over the last decade & will continue to do everyday will help me keep from getting a serious illness
Can't go on hope alone especially as you get older. Serious illness require medical intervention.
why not, you don't sound very healthy. i don't think you're the best person to be giving health advise
Age is a factor for ill health that is why. I am healthy but anyone can get sick. I just hope you stay well and healthy.
