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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

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    When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.

    Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.

    Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.

    You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.

    I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.
    each to their own, like i said, ones health is ones responsibility. i'm not interested in what the medical community recommends. they are the ones profiting off peoples continued sickness. i do agree with your statement on lifestyle choices. i also agree on the engine comparison, i see the body as a sort of machine & i'm the ghost in the shell, the better i take care of the machine the longer it will last & the better it will run. i also never condemned an entire community, i did say i don't believe all in the medical industry are this way. if you believe a balance helps, all power to you but i'll never take any medications again in my lifetime

    We seem to be arguing different things. I'm not here advocating every single medication as good. I'm rather focusing on medical tests of all types. Blood tests, cancer screening tests, etc. I just don't see how one can argue against these things. Having a test performed is different than sitting in a doctor's office and having him/her tell you what pills to pop. In fact... I'm not a doctor... but I can reasonably trudge my way through some test results in order to see how I'm doing in certain aspects. So I'm not some medical sales representative out there pushing pills. I'm also well aware that some doctors turn their noses up at natural remedies and other natural approaches to medicine. But just like an engine performance printout can help you diagnose and/or prevent problems with an engine... so can medical tests do the same with the human body.
    you & i are not arguing different things. you think tests & screening are beneficial for you & i feel i don't need them in my life
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post

    When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.

    Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.

    Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.

    You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.

    I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.
    each to their own, like i said, ones health is ones responsibility. i'm not interested in what the medical community recommends. they are the ones profiting off peoples continued sickness. i do agree with your statement on lifestyle choices. i also agree on the engine comparison, i see the body as a sort of machine & i'm the ghost in the shell, the better i take care of the machine the longer it will last & the better it will run. i also never condemned an entire community, i did say i don't believe all in the medical industry are this way. if you believe a balance helps, all power to you but i'll never take any medications again in my lifetime

    We seem to be arguing different things. I'm not here advocating every single medication as good. I'm rather focusing on medical tests of all types. Blood tests, cancer screening tests, etc. I just don't see how one can argue against these things. Having a test performed is different than sitting in a doctor's office and having him/her tell you what pills to pop. In fact... I'm not a doctor... but I can reasonably trudge my way through some test results in order to see how I'm doing in certain aspects. So I'm not some medical sales representative out there pushing pills. I'm also well aware that some doctors turn their noses up at natural remedies and other natural approaches to medicine. But just like an engine performance printout can help you diagnose and/or prevent problems with an engine... so can medical tests do the same with the human body.
    you & i are not arguing different things. you think tests & screening are beneficial for you & i feel i don't need them in my life

    Well you had mentioned medicines, so I thought you were only discussing that.

    If you don't feel you need any type of medical tests or screening... ever... then I guess that's your prerogative.

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