Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

~ I Am The Brewmaster ~

~ Round 2 ~

Karl Mildenberger showed no effects from the Knockdown in Round 1, and easily circled to
his right {counter-clockwise} and peppered Oscar with right-jabs over the first 30-Seconds.

Oscar made a charge at the {0:30 Mark}, and hammered Karl with a 'right-left' to the head,
driving Karl to the back left Ropes.

Oscar added in '2 hard left-hooks to the head at the {0:36 Mark}, and Karl looked shaken up.

But Karl cleared out, and came back with '2' fast left-hand leads to Oscar's face at the {0:43 Mark}.

Karl then came right back with a sharp 'right-left' to the head, and had Oscar backing-and-bobbing.

The fighters clinched at the {0:48 Mark}.

By the {1:05 Mark}, Oscar was back taking the lead as he pressed.

{1:10} Oscar lands a left-hook above Karl's right-eye.

At the {1:18 Mark}, Karl was showing a cut over his right-eye.

At the {1:43 Mark}, Oscar stepped in and delivered a solid '4-Punch' combination that rocked Karl
backwards.

Angelo Dundee makes the statement >
"Oscar is a converted southpaw, that is why he has a hard left-hook."

1:47> The fighters clinch at Center-Ring.

1:52 > Karl gets off with '5' fast right-jabs at Center-Ring as he circles.
The { 18,000 } fans at the 'Radrennbahn Outdoor Stadium' erupt with cheers, and applaud Karl's offensive attack.

2:02 > Oscar gets in close, and lands with a 'left-right-left-left'.

2:05 > Karl counters with a 'jarring' left-hand lead to Oscar's chin.

2:07 > Karl steps forward to throw another left-hand lead, but slips to the floor.
The Referee - rules 'no knockdown'.

2:35 > Oscar now looks both 'slow-and-awkward' as he plods forward.

2:38 > Karl is back to moving and circling to his right.

2:41 > Karl scores with a solid 'left-hand' lead to the head.

2:48 > Karl goes back to circling to his right until the Bell.

3:00 > Bell

Round 2 .............. 'Even' {5-5}

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 3 ~

0:10 > Karl comes out quickly, and immediately starts pecking away with his right-jab.
0:12 > Karl continues to move and circle to his right.

0:15 > Oscar is looking to counter.
0:26 > Karl scores with a good 'right-left'.

0:30 > Both fighters are Center-Ring.
0:32 > Oscar counters with hard left-hook.

0:45 > Oscar is showing a good defense.
1:00 > Karl is still poking away with right-jabs.

1:02 > The Argentinian contingent of { 200 supporters } is chanting "Ringo, Ringo".
1:06 > Oscar makes a charge, and slams away with '3' hard-punches.

1:08 > Karl backs up to the back-left Ropes, and slips while ducking under Oscar's punches.
1:10 > Oscar tries to clobber Karl while he's bending down.

1:14 > Referee - Harry Krause warns Oscar for hitting while hos opponent was down.
1:20 > The Referee continues to admonish Oscar.

1:24 > The action resumes.
1:28 > Karl goes back to pecking away with right-jabs.

1:43 > Oscar makes a 'bull-rush', and slams away with '3' hard hooks.
1:50 > Karl still pecks away with right-jabs while at Center-Ring.

2:03 > Oscar makes another charge, and scores with a good 'right-left' to the head.
2:05 > Karl looks 'rattled' as he backs up into the left-side Ropes.

2:18 > Karl scores with a terrific left-hand lead to Oscar's chin.
2:22 > Oscar makes a late-charger by firing in with a hard 'right-left-right-left'.

2:30 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring, and paw with jabs.
2:44 > Karl scores with another good left-hand lead, and sharp right-jab to Oscar's face.

2:46 > Karl tags Oscar with big left-hook to the jaw.
2:48 > Oscar retaliates with a fast 'right-left-right-left', but all his punches miss.

2:54 > Karl adds in a few light pecking right-jabs.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Rounds 3 ......... {5-5} 'Even'

Angelo Dundee's Scorecard
Round 1 ............. 5-3 > Oscar Bonavena
Round 2 ............. 5-5 > 'Even'
Round 3 ............. 5-4 > Oscar Bonavena

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 4 ~

0:05 > Karl is back to jabbing with his right-hand and circling to his right.
0:18 > Oscar is looking to counter.

0:25 > Oscar has been backing away.
0:54 > Karl has been leading with right-jabs, and Oscar looks 'baffled' now.

1:04 > Karl continues to move to his right, and circles at Center-Ring.
1:10 > Karls gets off with '2' good right-hands to Oscar's face.

1:16 > Oscar attacks 'wildly', and misses with all '4' punches.
1:18 > The fighters clinch.

1:20 > Howard Cosell > "Oscar is both clumsy and graceless. But he is effective when he lands."

1:26 > Karl backs up to the left-side Ropes.
1:31 > Karl moves to Center-Ring, and lands with a good straight left-hand lead.

1:33 > Karl fires in with a fast 'right-left-right-left'.
1:36 > Oscar tries to counter, but he is missing.

1:39 > Karl lands again, with a 'double right-jab.
1:42 > Oscar is waiting too long to counter.

1:48 > Oscar gets off with a grazing 'right-left'.
1:50 > Karl backs up to the front Ropes.

1:54 > Karl moves away, and backs out to Center-Ring.
1:58 > Karl goes back to jabbing.

2:01 > Karl stays aggressive, and keeps Oscar outside.
2:04 > Oscar is looking to counter.

2:13 > Karl scores with a 'sharp' right-left at Center-Ring, and the punches snap Oscar's head back.
2:25 > Oscar lands a good right-hand to Karl's ribs.

2:26 > Karl clinches.
2:32 > The fighters are now mauling at Center-Ring.

2:40 > Oscar lands another good right-hand to the body.
2:41 > The fighters clinch.

2:44 > Karl lands with '2' good right-jabs.
2:46 > Karl steps back to the front-left Ring area.

2:47 > Howard Cosell > "This is Mildenberger's best Round so far."

2:48 > Oscar moves forward, and loads up.
2:49 > Oscar slams a left-hook behind Karl's neck.

2:50 > Oscar lands with hard left-hook onto Karl's right-shoulder area.
2:50 > Karl is now with his back on the front-left Ropes.

2:51 > Karl is now off-balance.
2:51 > Oscar fires another big left-hook and catches Karl high on the head.

2:52 > Karl goes 'down', and falls into the front-left Ropes.
2:54 > Karl is up at the '1-Count'.

2:55 > The Referee - Harry Krause issues the 'Mandatory 8-Count'.
3:03 > 'Bell'

Round 4 ........... {5-4 } > Oscar Bonavena
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Angelo Dundee >

"I scored it for Oscar {5-4}. Even though he scored the 'flash-knockdown', Karl had the Round won
up until the last few seconds."

"Oscar is rough when he gets in close. He's getting away with a few clubbing-punches behind the head."

"Mildenberger's corner is complaining to Referee - Harry Krause about the 'knockdown'. They're saying
that Karl was hit behind the head {neck area}. I agree with them on that."

why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

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why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

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Because Bill made it up that is how.

In Bill's world Ali never became the great fighter he became.

Hell is this thread still going, you think he would be all Mildenberger out by now shit.:vd:

I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

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I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

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OR,

e) Billy is a literal WHIRLWIND of boxing stats, details, info, nostalgia, memorabilia, hype and ..........


f) all of the above (in my part of the post)


g) Master feels feverishly flummoxed about Quixotic Qassius Qlay Quotes

Billy's a nut job, Brock. Don't be fooled by dates, "supposed" quotes, and made-up stories. The guy's a certified whack job, the type you later read about in the newspapers when they commit some heinous act.

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I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

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OR,

e) Billy is a literal WHIRLWIND of boxing stats, details, info, nostalgia, memorabilia, hype and ..........
He's a WHIRLWIND, alright. A whirlwind of fantasy, hatred, lies, fabrication, inferiority complexes, etc. He makes 90% of his shit up, Brock.


f) all of the above (in my part of the post)


g) Master feels feverishly flummoxed about Quixotic Qassius Qlay Quotes
I think it's more of a case of Billy being Fixated on False Fabricated Fantasies Fueled by Fury Forged by Former Failures and a Fragility of a F*cked-up Formation

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why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

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Triple B,

Angelo knew that Cassius could get away with that stuff, because the 'liberal press' was
fearful of calling Cassius a cheat.

If you disagreed or called Cassius out on something, you immediately got labeled a 'racist'.

Take Angelo away from Cassius, and he was a pretty good boxing analysis.

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why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

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Triple B,

Angelo knew that Cassius could get away with that stuff, because the 'liberal press' was
fearful of calling Cassius a cheat.

If you disagreed or called Cassius out on something, you immediately got labeled a 'racist'.

Take Angelo away from Cassius, and he was a pretty good boxing analysis.

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Rubbish.

Ali was persecuted by the right wing, pro war and racist press.

15 pages of pointless and aimless spam, dozens of consecutive and unanswered posts... Can we get ride of this fucker already?...

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15 pages of pointless and aimless spam, dozens of consecutive and unanswered posts... Can we get ride of this fucker already?...

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We thought he would stop and we could wear him down.

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 5 ~

0:04 > Karl immediately goes to circling to his right, while sending out pecking right-jabs.
0:12 > Karl is in control early.

0:15 > Oscar makes a rush, and fires off with a 'right-left'.
0:20 > Karl clinches.

0:25 > Karl is back to jabbing-and-moving.
0:40 > Karl is boxing well, and is in command.

0:56 > Oscar rushes in, and lands with a 'right-left'.
0:58 > Karl clinches, to prevent Oscar from unloading.

1:05 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.
1:10 > Oscar makes another rush forward, but walks into a 'hard-left' from Mildenberger.

1:12 > Karl is driven into the right-side Ropes.
1:15 > Karl spins out to Center-Ring, and starts jabbing at Oscar's mid-section.

1:30 > Karl is back to jabbing and moving counter-clockwise.
1:43 > Karl lands a jarring right-hand to Oscar's jaw.

1:52 > Both are now 'pawing' at each other with jabs.
1:57 > Karl is now taking the lead, and is moving forward.

1:59 > Angelo Dundee > "This is how Karl fought Muhammad. By coming forward, with lots of jabs and pressure."

2:00 > Oscar is now backing away, and can't get near Mildenberger without taking a right-jab.
2:13 > There is a 'lull' in the action, as both slide around the Ring.

2:29 > Karl is again jabbing, and moving.
2:31 > Oscar makes a 'wild-rush' at Mildenberger, and attacks with an 'awkward flurry'.

2:34 > Karl backs up to the right-side Ropes.
2:36 > Oscar lands with a right-hand to the chin.

2:43 > Oscar makes a 'mad rush' at Karl, and starts slamming away with punches.
2:45 > Oscar lands with '2' hard lefts to the shoulder area.

2:47 > Karl is driven into the front-center Ropes.
2:48 > Oscar lands with a {low} right-hook below the belt-line.

2:49 > Karl is backed up to the right-side Ropes.
2:50 > Oscar slams a hard right-hook into Mildenberger's head.

2:51 > Karl is driven to his right while along the front-center Ropes.
2:52 > Oscar digs in a hard left-hook {low}.

2:53 > Karl is backing up into the right-side Ropes.
2:54 > Oscar is trying to land with heavy punches.

2:55 > Oscar lands with a left-hook to the head.
2:56 > Oscar comes back with another {low} punch, a right-hook below the belt-line.

2:58 > Karl is covering up, while his back is leaning on the right-side Ropes.
2:59 > Oscar adds in a right-hand to the chest.

3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 5 .......... {5-3} > Karl Mildenberger

Note: Referee - Harold Krause penalized Oscar Bonavena {1 Point} for '3' low-blows at the closing section of the Round.

Bill, why would Karl circle to his 'right' as a southpaw? He should try to move Ali to his own right.

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Bill, why would Karl circle to his 'right' as a southpaw? He should try to move Ali to his own right.

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Maybe it is because he is making this up. ;)

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Bill, why would Karl circle to his 'right' as a southpaw? He should try to move Ali to his own right.

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Maybe it is because he is making this up. ;)

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Master


If you knew anything about the 1960's Era Heavyweights, you would know that Karl Mildenberger
who fought as a southpaw, always moved to his right {counter-clockwise}.

Karl was an 'unconventional southpaw' who fought nearly squared up.

Against Cassius Clay, Karl was moving forward or to his right in {80% of that bout}. Karl
really had Clay 'all confused'.

Karl was hitting Cassius at ease with those 'fluffy-puff' right-jabs

That tells me, that Cassius was not all that bright. Talented and fast yes, but 'bright'....... no way.

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Bill, why would Karl circle to his 'right' as a southpaw? He should try to move Ali to his own right.

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Maybe it is because he is making this up. ;)

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Master


If you knew anything about the 1960's Era Heavyweights, you would know that Karl Mildenberger
who fought as a southpaw, always moved to his right {counter-clockwise}.

Karl was an 'unconventional southpaw' who fought nearly squared up.

Against Cassius Clay, Karl was moving forward or to his right in {80% of that bout}. Karl
really had Clay 'all confused'.

Karl was hitting Cassius at ease with those 'fluffy-puff' right-jabs

That tells me, that Cassius was not all that bright. Talented and fast yes, but 'bright'....... no way.

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See Brock you do not know nothing about 60's boxers!

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

Karl Mildenberger was sporting a 'small nick' at the corner of his right-eye, but the
small cut was sealed, and there were no issues.

~ Round 6

0:04 > Karl comes out by firing 'triple' right-jabs into Oscar's face.
0:12 > Karl is staying at Center-Ring.

0:20 > Oscar makes a 'bull rush' and fires in with a 'left-right-left'.
0:24 > Karl backs up to the right-side Ring area.

0:30 > Oscar is now stalking.
0:35 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.

0:41 > Both fighters exchange jabs.
0:45 > Both get in close and trade with hard punches.

0:47 > Oscar comes away by holding his right-eye, after getting 'accidentally' head-butted.
0:50 > Oscar backs into the front-left Corner holding his right-eye.

0:54 > Karl moves in, and scores with a light 'one-two'.
1:03 > Oscar again rushes at Mildenberger, and fires in with 'wild-punches'.

1:07 > Karl catches Bonavena coming in with hard left-hand to the jaw.
1:09 > The fighters clinch.

1:18 > Karl moves to Center-Ring, and circles to his right.
1:21 > Both exchange with hard punches.

1:26 > Karl scores with a hard right-hand to Oscar's head.
1:29 > Karl is now circling to his left {clock-wise}.

1:31 > Karl fires in with a solid left-hand lead to the jaw.
1:33 > Karl sends in another jarring left-hand lead to the jaw.

1:35 > Both fighters get into a 'wild-exchange'.
1:38 > Karl lands a solid 'right-left' to the head.

1:40 > The Radrennbahn Stadium of { 18,000 } roar, and chant "Milde, Milde".
1:42 > Oscar moves in, and holds with his right-hand, and hits Mildenbrger in the head with '2' left hands.

1:44 > Karl clinches and holds, while at the back-center Ring area.
1:50 > Karl is now moving to his left {clock-wise}.

1:52 > Karl circles 270* to the left-side Ring area.
1:54 > Oscar misses with a 'left-right'.

2:00 > Karl circles out to Center-Ring.
2:02 > Oscar scores with a 'double' left-jab.

2:04 > Karl comes back with a sharp 'right-left' to Oscar's face.
2:10 > The action is rough on the inside.

2:19 > Karl is now stationary at Center-Ring, and he is firing out steady right-jabs.
2:22 > The Argentinian contingent starts chanting "Ringo, Ringo".

2:24 > Karl now moves outside to get some distance.
2:43 > Karl scores with a solid right-hand, and a big straight left-hand to Oscar's head.

2:50 > Oscar makes a 'bull-rush', but is wild with a 4-Punch barrage.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 6 .......... {5-4} > Karl Mildenberger

Scorecards after '6' Rounds

Angelo Dundee ...... {28-26} > Oscar Bonavena
Nat Fleisher ........... {28-26} > Oscar Bonavena

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Bill, why would Karl circle to his 'right' as a southpaw? He should try to move Ali to his own right.

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Maybe it is because he is making this up. ;)

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Master


If you knew anything about the 1960's Era Heavyweights, you would know that Karl Mildenberger
who fought as a southpaw, always moved to his right {counter-clockwise}.

Karl was an 'unconventional southpaw' who fought nearly squared up.

Against Cassius Clay, Karl was moving forward or to his right in {80% of that bout}. Karl
really had Clay 'all confused'.

Karl was hitting Cassius at ease with those 'fluffy-puff' right-jabs

That tells me, that Cassius was not all that bright. Talented and fast yes, but 'bright'....... no way.

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See Brock you do not know nothing about 60's boxers!

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How dare you :-)

'Triple B'

Master may be a Master, but
When it comes to German Heavyweights, he goes down like 'The Bismark'.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...4eLQQq3VKoOM2D

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

'Triple B'

Master may be a Master, but
When it comes to German Heavyweights, he goes down like 'The Bismark'.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...4eLQQq3VKoOM2D

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hey Bill I always thought of Master as more like the Lusitania in 1910

Bill Mildenberger could not beat a egg he WAS BLOODY HOPELESS.:vd:

oh s*** another instance of Easter and egg.

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

'Triple B'

Master may be a Master, but
When it comes to German Heavyweights, he goes down like 'The Bismark'.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...4eLQQq3VKoOM2D

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hey Bill I always thought of Master as more like the Lusitania in 1910

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'Triple B'

The RMS Lusitania was a British Ocean Liner.

It had no offense, but did go down easy, like most Brit's.

Is Master 'a Brit'.

Or is he a ............ 'Dutch Master'

Is master a 'Brit' or a Brit?

Are you an unlikeable cunt or an 'unlikeable cunt'?

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 7 ~

0:03 > Karl is back to jabbing, and moving to his right.
0:14 > Each are exchanging light jabs while ate Center-Ring.

0:25 > Karl scores with '5' straight right-jabs into Oscar's mid-section.
0:33 > Oscar is now backing up, and backs to the front-left Corner area.

0:40 > Karl scores with a 'double' right-jab, and quick straight left-hand to the head.
0:45 > Oscar moves out, and forces Karl to back to Center-Ring.

0:50 > Karl comes back with a 'double' right-jab.
0:55 > Oscar leads with a 'hard' right-hand to Mildenberger's head.

0:58 > Oscar comes back with a fast 'left-right'.
1:03 > Karl circles to his right 360*.

1:10 > Karl snaps out a fast 'double' right-jab to Bonavena's face.
1:12 > Oscar moves back to the front-center Ring area.

1:17 > There is a lull in the action.
1:22 > Karl snaps off a 'triple' right-jab aimed at Bonavena's head.

1:24 > Oscar counters with fast right-hand to the point of Mildenberger's chin.
1:25 > Karl goes 'down' {for the 3rd-time in the bout}.

1:26 < Karl is up immediately, as Referee - Harry Krause administers the 'Mandatory 8-Count'.
1:30 > Karl is shaking his head in disgust, as he is mad at himself for getting caught.

1:38 > The action resumes.
1:40 > Both move to Center-Ring.

1:48 > Each are pawing away with jabs, while at Center-Ring.
1:49 > Karl moves backwards to the front Ropes.

1:52 > Oscar moves in with a 'wild-charge', and fling wildly with a 5-Punch barrage.
1:56 > Karl clinches, as he avoids all of Bonavena's punches.

1:59 > The fighters break.
2:04 > Karl moves back to Center-Ring, and starts to circle to his right.

2:08 > Oscar is waiting to counter.
2:11 > The fighters move in close, and clinch.

2:19 > Karl backs up to the left Ropes.
2:21 > Oscar moves in, and unloads with a 'hard' 4-Punch barrage.

2:25 > Oscar lands with a hard left-hook to Mildenberger's head, forcing him back on the left-side Ropes.
2:29 > Oscar is now 'punishing' Mildenberger with a barrage of clubbing punches.

2:32 > Oscar nails Mildenberger with a solid 'left-right' to the head.
2:33 > Karl 'wobbles' to the back-left Corner.

2:35 > Karl now backs up to the right-side Ring area.
2:37 > Oscar slams in a 'left-right'.

2:38 > Karl counters with a hard left-hook to Bonavena's jaw.
2:40 > Karl moves into the front-right Corner.

2:41 > The fighters clinch.
2:52 > Karl circles 360* to his right, and is back at the front-right Corner area.

2:55 > Oscar attacks with a 'right-left' and the clinches.
3:00 > Bell.

Round 7 ...... {5-3} > Oscar Bonavena

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

'Triple B'

Master may be a Master, but
When it comes to German Heavyweights, he goes down like 'The Bismark'.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...4eLQQq3VKoOM2D

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hey Bill I always thought of Master as more like the Lusitania in 1910

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'Triple B'

The RMS Lusitania was a British Ocean Liner.

It had no offense, but did go down easy, like most Brit's.

Is Master 'a Brit'.

Or is he a ............ 'Dutch Master'

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He isn't a 'Dutch Master' but he is more of a ~Philly Blunt~.

There's only one possible explanation why a thread on Karl Mildenberger has gone 16 pages and over 200 posts, most of which are unanswered, unsolicited, tedious, and mostly fabricated material by Billy:

Billy is an old guy who used to deep-throat Mildenberger's manhood. For some reason, when Mildenberger lost to Ali, he stopped giving Billy his daily dose. Thus perpetuating Billy's man-love for Karl and propagating his hatred of Ali.

What else can it be?

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There's only one possible explanation why a thread on Karl Mildenberger has gone 16 pages and over 200 posts, most of which are unanswered, unsolicited, tedious, and mostly fabricated material by Billy:

Billy is an old guy who used to deep-throat Mildenberger's manhood. For some reason, when Mildenberger lost to Ali, he stopped giving Billy his daily dose. Thus perpetuating Billy's man-love for Karl and propagating his hatred of Ali.

What else can it be?

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Karl Mildenberger >

"Tito Fan is a Cassius Clay lover, and has been called upon from time-to-time to serve as
a receptacle for the old man."

"When receiving, Tito Fan has been heard to say to Cassius." >

"Load me up Cassius. Dump in me you old man."

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

There's only one possible explanation why a thread on Karl Mildenberger has gone 16 pages and over 200 posts, most of which are unanswered, unsolicited, tedious, and mostly fabricated material by Billy:

Billy is an old guy who used to deep-throat Mildenberger's manhood. For some reason, when Mildenberger lost to Ali, he stopped giving Billy his daily dose. Thus perpetuating Billy's man-love for Karl and propagating his hatred of Ali.

What else can it be?

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Karl Mildenberger >

"Tito Fan is a Cassius Clay lover, and has been called upon from time-to-time to serve as
a receptacle for the old man."

"When receiving, Tito Fan has been heard to say to Cassius." >

"Load me up Cassius. Dump in me you old man."

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Wow!! You responded! I'm actually speechless... don't know what to say, even if it was an insult.

;D

Don't take it personally, Billy.
We're just flabbergasted at how much hate you harbor for ol' Ali, even to the point of making stuff up.

But hey... as you were.... it adds a little more weirdness to the forum.

;)

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 8 ~

0:00 > Both fighters still look fresh.
0:04 > Karl goes back to moving to his right, while flicking out right-jabs.

0:08 > Oscar sends in a 'lead' right-hand to the chin, sending Karl back to the left-side Ropes.
0:10 > Karl moves to his left, along the back Ropes.

0:19 > Karl scores with a good left-hand lead to Bonavena's mid-section.
0:21 > Karl starts pressing forward with right-hand jabs.

0:28 > Oscar is backing away and looking to counter.
0:35 > The fighters clinch.

0:43 > Karl is sending out measuring right-jabs.
0:50 > Oscar is now leaning back and away.

1:00 > The fighters clinch.
1:07 > Karl is back to 'pressing forward'.

1:12 > Oscar moves to the back-left Corner.
1:14 > Oscar 'digs' in with a right-hand lead into Mildenberger's mid-section.

1:15 > Karl clinches, as that body punch hurt him.
1:23 > Karl is now moving straight backwards.

1:26 > Karl lands with a good left-hand lead to Bonavena's face as he is moving forward.
1:28 > Oscar is driven into the front Ropes.

1:33 > Both exchange jabs at Center-Ring.
1:36 > Oscar scores with another 'good' right-hand lead into Mildenberger's mid-section.

1:38 > Oscar attacks with awkward-rush, and lands with a 'right-left' to Mildenberger's chin.
1:40 > Karl moves away, and backs-up fast.

1:46 > Oscar lands with a hard chopping right-hand to the jaw.
1:50 > Both move to Center-Ring, and paw at each other.

1:54 > Oscar lands with another right-hand lead to Mildenberger's mid-section.
2:00 > Karl moves away, along the back-left Ring area.

2:11 > Howard Cosell > "Bonavena has too much strength for Mildenberger."

2:17 > Karl circles out to the right-side of Center-Ring.
2:22 > Oscar 'misses' with a big right-hand swing.

2:24 > Karl is now along the right-side Ropes.
2:30 > Karl starts back to pecking with right-hand jabs.

2:40 > The pace has slowed, as both are at Center-Ring.
2:44 > Oscar misses with a 'wild' right-hook, and goes by Mildenberger and lands into the right-side Ropes.

2:50 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
2:58 > Karl lands with a left-hand lead.

3:00 > 'Bell'.

Round 8 ......... {5-4} > Oscar Bonavena

Scorecards thru 8 Rounds
* Angelo Dundee .... {38-33} > Oscar Bonavena
* Nat Fleischer ....... {38-33} > Oscar Bonavena

Round 9

Nobody 'cares'.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Round 9

Nobody 'cares'.

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Easy Adam.

Your Mom is right here besides me. She loved Round 8.

What's the deal with the 'knee pads'.

As requested by 'Adam GB'

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 9 ~

0:02 > Both fighters meet at Center-Ring.
0:94 > Karl immediately starts pressing and moving to his right while flicking out right-jabs.

0:15 > Oscar surprisingly starts 'bouncing-on-his-toes' and goes to boxing.
0:22 > Oscar moves backwards to the left-side Ropes, and then circles left.

0:26 > Oscar is now 'pawing' with left-jabs.
0:28 > Karl counters with '2' sharp right-jabs.

0:32 > Oscar steps forward, and deliver a right-hook just under Mildenberger's belt-line.
0:33 > Oscar comes back with a sweeping left-hook that glances off of Mildenberger's forehead.

0:34 > Karl backs up into the back-right Ring area.
0:45 > Both fighters are looking to counter now.

0:57 > Karl moves to Center-Ring.
1:00 > Karl is back to flicking out a steady amount of right-jabs.

1:03 > Oscar is staying outside, and is 'not' pressing.
1:09 > Karl is pecking away with measuring right-jabs.

1:10 > Oscar backs up the front Ropes.
1:11 > Karl fires in with a long left-hand into Bonavena's mid-section.

1:15 > Howard Cosell >
"Angie, how could Mildenberger look so much more effective against Ali, than against this 'clumsy' Bonavena."

1:18 > Angelo Dundee >
"Bonavena is awkward. It's tough to look good against him."

1:19 > Oscar circles out to his right, and away from the Ropes, and backs out to Center-Ring.
1:25 > From way outside, Oscar scores with a good right-hand lead to the Mildenberger's jaw.

1:26 > Karl counters with a left-hand to Bonavena's head, and also lands with a quick right-hand to the face.
1:35 > Both fighters are looking to counter.

1:40 > Oscar slams in a right-hand to the mid-section.
1:41 > Oscar adds in a sweeping left-hook that grazes Mildenberger's head.

2:00 > Karl is sending out right-jabs, but all of his punches are coming up short.
2:03 > Oscar attacks with a wild 'left-right-left' flurry, but all of his punches miss as Mildenberger avoids the rush and moves to his left.

2:07 > Karl scores with a 'fast' left-hand lead to Bonavena's face.
2:16 > Karl lands with '3' straight right-jabs to the mid-section.

2:18 > Oscar backs up the back-center Ring area, near the Ropes.
2:20 > Karl fires in a fast right-hand at the mid-section, and then follows with a 'tremendous' straight left-hand into Bonavena's forehead.

2:20 > Oscar Bonavena's legs buckle. Oscar is hurt.
2:21 > Oscar 'staggers' forward.

2:22 > Oscar tackles Mildenberger around his waist, as he pushes Karl across the Ring and towards the front-center Ropes.
2:23 > Karl pushes Bonavena away, as Oscar goes flying head first into the front-center Ropes.

2:24 > Karl steps back in to the front-left Corner, as Oscar goes thru the middle Rope strand.
2:25 > Karl moves forward, and is looking to unload.

2:29 > Oscar moves away from the Ropes, and immediately grabs at Mildenberger and clinches.
2:33 > The fighters start 'mauling' each other near Center-Ring.

2:35 > The Radrennbahn Stadium of { 18,000 } are going wild chanting 'Milde, Milde'.
2:38 > Howard Cosell > "The crowd is going wild."

2:42 > Karl is looking to bomb Bonavena.
2:48 > Oscar is staying away outside, and bobs his head and rolls his shoulders.

2:55 > Karl lands with a good left-hand lead to Bonavena's forehead.
2:56 > Oscar grabs at Mildenberger at Center-Ring, and holds until the Bell.

3:00 'Bell'

Round 9 ......... {5-4} > Karl Mildenberger

If Karl had the formula it never worked!

So why do you still continue with this mundane and boring thread?

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Originally Posted by Master

If Karl had the formula it never worked!

So why do you still continue with this mundane and boring thread?

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'The Formula'

Karl Mildenberger had the 'formula' against Cassius Clay.

* Southpaw stance {modified with a squared-up stance}.
* Forward pressure
* Busy right-jab
* Hand-speed

Unfortunately, the 6' 1 1/2" @ 195 lb. Mildenberger had no power, and a soft chin
to go along with a common problem of keeping his left-hand low {where he was
an easy target for right-hand leads or counters}.

But, 'the formula' was drawn up.

Ali had his NOI cronies rub grease on his kidneys, to help the German's 'body blows' to slide off, doing less damage. After the fight, Vaseline Corporation took out a full government bond on Muhammad's marriage ending in divorce within 2 years. Vaseline Corporation cashed in big with this:

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Ali had his NOI cronies rub grease on his kidneys, to help the German's 'body blows' to slide off, doing less damage. After the fight, Vaseline Corporation took out a full government bond on Muhammad's marriage ending in divorce within 2 years. Vaseline Corporation cashed in big with this:

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'Triple B'

I like the way you think .............

Triple B = Bill :)