Why don't people like Max Kellerman?

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

1. Kellerman is turning 35 this year. He's not in his twenties.

2. If you're so insistent on an old guy having the job, then recommend an old guy who can serve as Merchant's heir apparent.

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It's probably just me having an old guy moment about some young whippersnapper on the TV, even though he isn't much younger than me. :) It just doesn't seem right.

As for who can do the job better than Kellerman I'd stay with Larry Merchant but if I had to find somebody else I'd start with crusty old trainers who've been in and around the business for decades, like Angelo Dundee and similar people. All of those guys can call a fight and make observations infinitely better than Kellerman.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

It's probably just me having an old guy moment about some young whippersnapper on the TV, even though he isn't much younger than me. :) It just doesn't seem right.

As for who can do the job better than Kellerman I'd stay with Larry Merchant but if I had to find somebody else I'd start with crusty old trainers who've been in and around the business for decades, like Angelo Dundee and similar people. All of those guys can call a fight and make observations infinitely better than Kellerman.

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That's what Emmanuel Steward is there for.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

That's what Emmanuel Steward is there for.

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So have two people on the commentary team that really know what they're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

So have two people on the commentary team that really know what they're talking about.

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Which of Max's statements were factually incorrect?

Right now this thread is "Kirkland Laing doesn't like Max Kellerman."

It'd be cool if it changed into "Kirkland Laing doesn't like Max Kellerman and has provided good evidence to show that Max does not belong on the HBO broadcast team."

But we're not there yet. Show me something, Kirk!

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Which of Max's statements were factually incorrect?

Right now this thread is "Kirkland Laing doesn't like Max Kellerman."

It'd be cool if it changed into "Kirkland Laing doesn't like Max Kellerman and has provided good evidence to show that Max does not belong on the HBO broadcast team."

But we're not there yet. Show me something, Kirk!

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Right now this thread is us two arguing over whether Max Kellerman is any good.

I think we can safely assume that anybody hired by HBO as a boxing analyst at least attains the minimum competency level of being able to get their facts right. The question is, what can they add to the commentary on the fight other than facts? I just have a funny feeling that some old guy like Dundee or Don Turner or even Larry Merchant who's been involved with boxing and big fights for decades might have a more expansive knowledge and perspective than a guy who constantly tells us about stuff he's only read about or watched on black and white movies.

I don't care what anyone says when it comes to analyzing the fight Emanuel doesn't necessarily know dick-all, but his biases blind him from what is really happening. He favors fighters before the fight has even begun and regardless of how the fight is going he always has something negative to say about certain guys, like MAyweather. The sport doesn't need that, its needs guys like Max Kellerman who are actually objective, and guys who can actually judge fights properly.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I just have a funny feeling that some old guy like Dundee or Don Turner or even Larry Merchant who's been involved with boxing and big fights for decades might have a more expansive knowledge and perspective than a guy who constantly tells us about stuff he's only read about or watched on black and white movies.

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If Max knows his stuff, then who cares whether he learned it by watching tapes or actually being there in-person?

Just because you know boxing doesn't mean you make a good TV announcer. Have you ever seen Angelo Dundee work on a TV broadcast? I haven't. For all we know, he could be horrible. Because being on TV is tougher than you think. There are plenty of people who have tons of knowledge, but can't speak clearly and come up with stuff spur of the moment, which is what you need on TV.

Lampley is middle-aged, Merchant and Steward are more old-school, Max is a younger guy with a fresh perspective. I think that's a nice balance. I don't see why HBO needs to become the Geriatric Network. It's a good thing to have different generations of anaylsts represented.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

If Max knows his stuff, then who cares whether he learned it by watching tapes or actually being there in-person?

Just because you know boxing doesn't mean you make a good TV announcer. Have you ever seen Angelo Dundee work on a TV broadcast? I haven't. For all we know, he could be horrible. Because being on TV is tougher than you think. There are plenty of people who have tons of knowledge, but can't speak clearly and come up with stuff spur of the moment, which is what you need on TV.

Lampley is middle-aged, Merchant and Steward are more old-school, Max is a younger guy with a fresh perspective. I think that's a nice balance. I don't see why HBO needs to become the Geriatric Network. It's a good thing to have different generations of anaylsts represented.

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They could audition a bunch of geriatrics and find one who works on TV.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree about Max Kellerman.

I've always thought Max was good because he was so passionate about boxing.

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Originally Posted by match

I've always thought Max was good because he was so passionate about boxing.

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The problem is he is so biased is frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Puya

The problem is he is so biased is frustrating.

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What type of bias has he shown? I haven't noticed it.