Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Rantcatrat
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RozzySean
If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.
I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.
If there was a such thing as a "bigger version of Pac" then that hypothetical fighter would probably be top 10 ATG. Pac is what he is because of his size. He has ridiculous power for his size, which is why he was succesful at his lower weight classes, his speed was around the same as his opposition, but his power was always greater for the most part.. Now that he's moving up, he will be fighting "slower" guys with more power.. For there to be a "bigger Pac" then thats almost impossible..
Pac is moving up to fight Floyd, but Floyd has had the most trouble with smaller faster guys, not bigger heavy fisted guys.. So i would agree with Rozzy in saying that Pac poses more of a threat than Cotto. I think Floyd could slick his way through a Cotto fight and stay on the outside. Pac is faster than Cotto with plenty of power which in my opinion is more dangerous.
I'm going to have to watch PBF/Castillo and PBF/Judah again to really get some good insight on this potential matchup....
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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SaddoBoxer
PAC was successful against great Mexican boxers...
PAC was very impressive against a Mancunian (White) Mexican...
Maybe PAC will be successful too against a "Black Mexican"...;)
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That sounds like something Larry Merchant would come out with.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Pac's currently riding a wave of success similar to Trinidad when he moved up in weight and rolled through David Reid and William Joppy, and because of those devastating wins his fanbase thought he would just as easily steamroll a world class technician like Bernard Hopkins. Just the same, the Pac Man train is going to come to a dead halt when he shockingly finds himself in the ring with a fighter who will intellectually walk circles around him. This won't even be Floyd's toughest fight.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Originally Posted by
RP33
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
RozzySean
If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.
I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.
If there was a such thing as a "bigger version of Pac" then that hypothetical fighter would probably be top 10 ATG. Pac is what he is because of his size. He has ridiculous power for his size, which is why he was succesful at his lower weight classes, his speed was around the same as his opposition, but his power was always greater for the most part.. Now that he's moving up, he will be fighting "slower" guys with more power.. For there to be a "bigger Pac" then thats almost impossible..
Pac is moving up to fight Floyd, but Floyd has had the most trouble with smaller faster guys, not bigger heavy fisted guys.. So i would agree with Rozzy in saying that Pac poses more of a threat than Cotto. I think Floyd could slick his way through a Cotto fight and stay on the outside. Pac is faster than Cotto with plenty of power which in my opinion is more dangerous.
I'm going to have to watch PBF/Castillo and PBF/Judah again to really get some good insight on this potential matchup....
First, I'm not sure that is true. When has Floyd fought a bigger, heavier fisted guy? Aside from Oscar. Not being rhetorical. Second, let's assume that Floyd has more trouble with smaller, faster guys than bigger, stronger guys. But, how about a bigger, faster guy? Because that is exactly what Floyd is to Pac.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
We will have to wait and see how Floyd handles Marquez having had time away from the game,but if Manny fights as well as he did against Hatton,he will destroy a ring rusty PBF!!
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Originally Posted by
USAalltheway
Pac's currently riding a wave of success similar to Trinidad when he moved up in weight and rolled through David Reid and William Joppy, and because of those devastating wins his fanbase thought he would just as easily steamroll a world class technician like Bernard Hopkins. Just the same, the Pac Man train is going to come to a dead halt when he shockingly finds himself in the ring with a fighter who will intellectually walk circles around him. This won't even be Floyd's toughest fight.
That is just ridiculous! You write that like Floyd Jr. is the Albert Einstein of boxing. The boy looks good when he boxes, it doesn't make him a genius. I see people write and talk about how Pac "looks" amateurish. The fact is a punch doesn't have to "look good" to be "effective" or even have "skill" behind it. If Pac hits Floyd Jr. with the same punch he hit Hatton, the fight would over. Even if Floyd has the ability to figure out Pac by the 4th round he still has to make it to the 4th round.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Chino
Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose :D.
Are you referring to Boss Saddo?? :confused:
BTW, don't hate a boxer because of his fans... That's not sensible enough...;)
Hate his misbehaving fans (if there's any), not the boxer... OK?? ;)
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Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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robinswe01
Watching Pacquiao in his last few fights, you have to think that anything is possible, but his is a step too far i feel. PBF is too big and his arms are too long.
MAYWEATHER IS COMPLETE PACKAGE .
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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SaddoBoxer
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Chino
Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose :D.
Are you referring to Boss Saddo?? :confused:
BTW, don't hate a boxer because of his fans... That's not sensible enough...;)
Hate his misbehaving fans (if there's any), not the boxer... OK?? ;)
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i'd guess he's talking about you..
and i hate Pacquiao because of you too.. as well as a number of posters on here..
We've already gone over the whole, "you do a terrible job of representing your fighter and actually make it harder for other people to like your fighter because of your ridiculousness" in other threads.. you're a fan-boy, it's disgusting, but i'm used to it.. but don't even try to defend it.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Chino
Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose :D.
Are you referring to Boss Saddo?? :confused:
Naaaah, not Boss Saddo. He cheers for more than one boxer, he see's strengths and weaknesses in fighters, two outcomes to the fights and their opponents, etc. :)
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Coach Roach and Team PAC can definitely pick up a pointer or two from this fight...;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=din0rds-EfI
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Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Pac will destroy Mayweather's shoulder if PBF uses his famous shoulder roll in the fight. Nah, i really hope so. All I can say is that PBF may be the hardest opponent Pac will ever face, 2nd to JMM. The same goes for PBF. I can't say PAC will lose, people have been saying that everytime Pac fights. and then he porved them wrong. http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cons/icon7.gif
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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SaddoBoxer
So they're plan is that if Mayweather looks like he's gonna put Pac out, he should hit him in the balls & rabbit-punch him over the back of the head to instigate a ring brawl?? ;)
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
It's not just me, PBF agrees that Pacman is just too small: Pacquiao too small for me, says 'P4P king' Lil Floyd. All things being equal, a good big man beats a good small man.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Rantcatrat
Seems like PBF is so proud fighting small men...;D
