Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
That shot was borderline right on the waist band
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
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Yeah, tszyus shots were on the belt and ricky put on an acting masterclass and then came back then smashed kostya in the balls with no penalty. Also there was the knockdown that kostya scored which was deemed a low blow but you could tell by the look in rickys eyes that he knew he had just been knocked down. It was appauling, i gave kostya great credit for his speech after that fight because he didnt complain once about the ref unlike ricky with cortez.
Snakey you sound worst than the Hatton nuthuggers, KT shot that floored Hatton wasnt a low blow?? WTF?? you for real?
2.20-2.25 of this video proves it was a low blow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XX695yh9FU
That proves nothing,it looks on the belt line to me mate. Im worse then hatton nut huggers? They have made excuses for every loss, hatton wasnt ready for pac, cortez screwed hatton? They just cant take that karma is a bitch. And if you think the KT fight was fair then are you for real?
You all love to say this is boxing and a bit of ruff stuff is ok but when floyd used his forearm to make space between him and hatton all you hatton supporters sat down, grabbed some tissues and cried until your body was drained of all fluids but cant take it that hatton mugged his way to a title with illegal tactics. If im wrong on that then how come when he came to america and wasnt allowed to hold and hit he either struggled or got knocked out?
Oh wow, isn't this true. The Hatton groupies have made every single excuse on why Hatton lost. It's inconceivable for them that the 2 guys he lost were the better fighter.
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snakey
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skel1983
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snakey
Yeah, tszyus shots were on the belt and ricky put on an acting masterclass and then came back then smashed kostya in the balls with no penalty. Also there was the knockdown that kostya scored which was deemed a low blow but you could tell by the look in rickys eyes that he knew he had just been knocked down. It was appauling, i gave kostya great credit for his speech after that fight because he didnt complain once about the ref unlike ricky with cortez.
Snakey you sound worst than the Hatton nuthuggers, KT shot that floored Hatton wasnt a low blow?? WTF?? you for real?
2.20-2.25 of this video proves it was a low blow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XX695yh9FU
That proves nothing,it looks on the belt line to me mate. Im worse then hatton nut huggers? They have made excuses for every loss, hatton wasnt ready for pac, cortez screwed hatton? They just cant take that karma is a bitch. And if you think the KT fight was fair then are you for real?
You all love to say this is boxing and a bit of ruff stuff is ok but when floyd used his forearm to make space between him and hatton all you hatton supporters sat down, grabbed some tissues and cried until your body was drained of all fluids but cant take it that hatton mugged his way to a title with illegal tactics. If im wrong on that then how come when he came to america and wasnt allowed to hold and hit he either struggled or got knocked out?
You lot have spent the entire thread moaning about how us hatton fans should stop moaning about the mayweather loss.....by moaning about hatton was fortunate to beat tszyu
pot....kettle....black
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Here's my view on it:
Anywhere they fought, no matter who was reffing, Floyd wins. Why? Because Floyd can adapt, and Ricky can't. I have Floyd's career set here too, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Floyd would have adjusted his fight plan and the end would have been the same.
With all respect to Ricky, because he's tough as nails and a great British fighter, he fights the same fight every time. He had a lot of success with it, but sooner or later you run into someone who has your number, and Hatton had the misfortune of going up against a true modern day ATG.
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Even though he got knocked out, I think the Brits can be proud of the performance. He gave it his all, it was a compeditive fight and not many guys have been able to be compeditive with Floyd.
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I carnt believe people are still arguing about this.Cortez was a t**t in the fight but it still would of been a win for Floyd no matter who the ref was.
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snakey
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skel1983
That proves nothing,it looks on the belt line to me mate. Im worse then hatton nut huggers? They have made excuses for every loss, hatton wasnt ready for pac, cortez screwed hatton? They just cant take that karma is a bitch. And if you think the KT fight was fair then are you for real?
You all love to say this is boxing and a bit of ruff stuff is ok but when floyd used his forearm to make space between him and hatton all you hatton supporters sat down, grabbed some tissues and cried until your body was drained of all fluids but cant take it that hatton mugged his way to a title with illegal tactics. If im wrong on that then how come when he came to america and wasnt allowed to hold and hit he either struggled or got knocked out?
You lot have spent the entire thread moaning about how us hatton fans should stop moaning about the mayweather loss.....by moaning about hatton was fortunate to beat tszyu
pot....kettle....black
No it is not because u started a whole thread on the topic. So you thought it was important enough to bring it up out of nowhere. I dont see any threads being started about Kostya being beaten by the ref not Hatton on here recently.
And why the hell would you when writing out Rickys legacy mention the WBU belt? Its embarrassing for Ricky. Anyone who knows boxing knows the WBU belt dont count for shit.
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Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
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Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?
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snakey
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C.J.Rock
Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?
But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.
As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.
For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure
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hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
snakey
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Originally Posted by
C.J.Rock
Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?
But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.
As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.
For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure
Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.
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hattonthehammer
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snakey
Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?
But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.
As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.
For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure
Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion. If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
Hatton still would have lost......duh :dunce:
Mayweather has just about the best defense in the game and Hatton would have been lucky to hit him inside, much less hurt him, assuming Mayweather would have sat there and even played that game. I didn't like how Cortez played that night, but Hatton would have got ktfo even quicker had there not been so much hand holding from Cortez; Floyd adapts so quickly to what a fighter does and then starts picking them apart. Hatton just does the same things over and over and it wouldn't take a genius to figure him out; and Floyd is a genius in the ring. People seem to think Floyd was scared of Ricky's inside game and was thankful for Cortez' busy body interferring, but had there not been any interference imo Floyd would have gotten him out quicker; though it could have been a more exciting fight to watch.
Here's a better question:
If Ricky hadn't of been KTFO in the 2nd round by Pacman, would he have been KTFO in the 3rd? ;D
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snakey
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C.J.Rock
Ricky Hatton was beaten before he even left his dressingroom. His only chance was to KO Mayweather even then the outcome would have been a DQ of some kind.
Fight in Vegas Floyds hometown . Ref Joe Cortez & three blind mice (judges) ALL from Vegas. What chance did Hatton stand?? Cortez made sure that Hatton would not be allowed to fight while allowing Mayweather carte blanche to hold, forearm smash & duck below the waist continuously. Not a fight on the level at all
Poor ricky, a guy whos use to fighting at home with a UK ref and UK judges and use to ruffing his opponents up on the inside with headbutts, elbows and low blows fought a guy who was fighting at home with an american ref and judges and gave him a bit of his own taste at in-fighting. Can ya really complain about it when the guy has done a fair bit of that himself?
Hatton used to headbutt ??? He used to cut easy why would he use his head?
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I think if Cortez didn't get involved Hatton would have been knocked out earlier.