Re: Haye ChIsora press conference brawl
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Originally Posted by
shamma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPA5QgJBJO4
That shows it from a different angle,at around the 3.15 mark!looks to me chisora is just lookin for a face off hes smiling and seems relaxed even tho confronting him..and haye just reacts!
That shows it completely for what it is. Chisora was not spoiling for a fight, but did indeed look calm. Haye in an instant just smacked him full force and then assaulting people with a tripod?
I'm sorry, but Haye committed all the wrong there and deserves the full force of the law. What an idiot and good reason why English people drinking alco-pops are a public menace.
You can't use your fists like that outside the ring.
Re: Haye ChIsora press conference brawl
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rjj tszyu
What a fool Chisora is. Is it worth doing all this getting in Hayes face just to spend the rest of your life a cripple? That is what Haye will leave this bum.
are you serious??? Haye is the bum here. Chisora is a douchebag too, but at least he gave the Klit fight everything he had, and actually tired to win! so there is respect there! Haye was a joke who was scared to death, even of little glass jawed brother Wlad.
i just can't get that pathetic toe fight out of my mind. Haye is the biggest little bitch in boxing.
anything with HAYE in it is a farse. ive no interest in seeing Haye rip off the public once again with his empty mouthing. NO SALESMEN ALLOWED.
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Also let's not forget that Chisora had a microphone in his hand. One rarely goes looking for fisticuffs armed with a microphone. He was looking for in your face verbal clarification from Haye.
Haye overreacted big time. You walk up to someone and say 'Did call me a loser?' and then get socked in the face for it? Well, someone assaulted someone and that is the crime there.
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The whole thing is ridiculous. I used to have a lot of time for Haye. I thought the way he stuck to his gameplan to take the title from Valuev was pretty impressive and I thought Booth was a great tactician. But I never thought he deserved his shot against Wlad anyway on the strength of victories over Monte Barrett, Valuev and a faded Ruiz. His campaign to get a shot against the Klitschkos was garbage and his showing against Wlad was almost as laughable as his 'poorly toe' excuse. He's a talented fighter with a lot of ability but he just wanted a fast track to a heavyweight title before he retired. He did that, so he should retire and keep his mouth shut. Or he should come out of retirement and fight lower tier fighters until he's built a record worthy of another title shot. Either way, waiting around and goading the Klitschkos into another fight is bollocks. What has he done to deserve a rematch with either of them? He was made to look rubbish by Wlad and there's no reason to think he would fare any better against Vitali.
Chisora is no better. He shouldn't have been fighting Klitschko either based on his record, and the fact that he did pretty well doesn't ratify the decision to give him the shot. He still lost by 8 rounds and the fact that he did well has more to do with the fact that Klitschko was pretty poor himself. The VitKlit that steadily and methodically demolished Danny Williams would have made short work of Chisora, especially with the huge lunges that Chisora was throwing. If Klitschko's timing had been where it has been previously just one of those would have been enough to see Chisora on his arse. And Chisora's slapping, spitting, and pre and post-fight lack of respect and humility were disgraceful.
As for the brawl, they're as bad as each other. Chisora walks 20 feet and takes his jacket off on the way there, so there's no way he wasn't preparing himself for some kind of physical confrontation, Haye definitely throws the first two punches, even if it is provoked by Chisora shoving his microphone-clutching fist into his face. I couldn't believe it when the tripod starts swinging around, I mean Jesus these are supposed to be professional sportsmen. Haye then legs it and isn't seen again, whereas at least nutjob Chisora calms down to the point where he wipes the blood off Adam Booth's head with a towel. Absolutely ridiculous. Haye should face criminal charges for his part in it, whereas you could argue (maybe) that Chisora doesn't really do anything illegal, but only because he can't seem to get to Haye. He should still be pulled up by the BBBofC for spitting in Wlad's face, his part in the brawl and his general conduct.
Bottom line is that I daresay this will provide a lot of hype for a fight between Haye and Chisora, which I don't think will ever happen because Haye won't come out of 'retirement' for anyone who's surname isn't Klitschko. I don't think it'll help Chisora get another fight with the Klitschkos either, since I daresay they're thinking this whole episode has been more trouble than it's worth.
Re: Haye ChIsora press conference brawl
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Jimanuel Boogustus
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Gandalf
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Originally Posted by
shamma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPA5QgJBJO4
That shows it from a different angle,at around the 3.15 mark!looks to me chisora is just lookin for a face off hes smiling and seems relaxed even tho confronting him..and haye just reacts!
That shows it completely for what it is. Chisora was not spoiling for a fight, but did indeed look calm. Haye in an instant just smacked him full force and then assaulting people with a tripod?
I'm sorry, but Haye committed all the wrong there and deserves the full force of the law. What an idiot and good reason why English people drinking alco-pops are a public menace.
You can't use your fists like that outside the ring.
But you can clearly hear Chisora demand that his corner man stay behind him. Do you know why that is?
So that Chisora could get face to face with Haye?
Haye had a bottle, Chisora had a microphone. No punches needed to be thrown there.
Haye literally bottled it, assaulted his own trainer, ran away and didn't even go to his own hotel.
Something was up with him. He got pissed up, started mouthing and then wondered why someone was asking him to say it to his face and responded by assaulting him.
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Behave, miles, you pansy.
Haye's reaction was one of any man with balls.
If you keep calling someone a pussy and threatening to attack them, then you get in their face and they start lamping you all over the shop that just makes them awesome. Fact.
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Fenster
Behave, miles, you pansy.
Haye's reaction was one of any man with balls.
If you keep calling someone a pussy and threatening to attack them, then you get in their face and they start lamping you all over the shop that just makes them awesome. Fact.
Men with balls operate beyond that realm entirely. Still, they were both pretty awesome, but I think Haye was far more criminal.
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http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...a_2144429b.jpgAs you can see chisora is looking away and haye is bringin his right hand back to plant him..but who cares both fools!haha hayes angry fierce look is laughable and pathetic!
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Haye was far too conservative IMO.
He chinned him with the bottle in hand instead of actually using the bottle as a weapon. He should have smashed it straight into Chisora face the second he got in range. Lets be honest. Lets keep it real.
Re: Haye ChIsora press conference brawl
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shamma
Look at that boat. No messing around.
Pure awesomeness.
Re: Haye ChIsora press conference brawl
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Fenster
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shamma
Look at that boat. No messing around.
Pure awesomeness.
Chisora was launching into a speech. Look at him. He thinks he is setting the world to rights.
Haye is the schoolground bully going mental.
It was a great show and far better than the main fight, but Haye is the man who assaulted another and his own trainer.
Haye deserves all he gets. What's all this Salmon Rushdie behaviour all about too?
He was going to retire anyway. It is a shame about Chisora if he gets banned.
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Seraphanx
The whole thing is ridiculous. I used to have a lot of time for Haye. I thought the way he stuck to his gameplan to take the title from Valuev was pretty impressive and I thought Booth was a great tactician. But I never thought he deserved his shot against Wlad anyway on the strength of victories over Monte Barrett, Valuev and a faded Ruiz. His campaign to get a shot against the Klitschkos was garbage and his showing against Wlad was almost as laughable as his 'poorly toe' excuse. He's a talented fighter with a lot of ability but he just wanted a fast track to a heavyweight title before he retired. He did that, so he should retire and keep his mouth shut. Or he should come out of retirement and fight lower tier fighters until he's built a record worthy of another title shot. Either way, waiting around and goading the Klitschkos into another fight is bollocks. What has he done to deserve a rematch with either of them? He was made to look rubbish by Wlad and there's no reason to think he would fare any better against Vitali.
Chisora is no better. He shouldn't have been fighting Klitschko either based on his record, and the fact that he did pretty well doesn't ratify the decision to give him the shot. He still lost by 8 rounds and the fact that he did well has more to do with the fact that Klitschko was pretty poor himself. The VitKlit that steadily and methodically demolished Danny Williams would have made short work of Chisora, especially with the huge lunges that Chisora was throwing. If Klitschko's timing had been where it has been previously just one of those would have been enough to see Chisora on his arse. And Chisora's slapping, spitting, and pre and post-fight lack of respect and humility were disgraceful.
As for the brawl, they're as bad as each other. Chisora walks 20 feet and takes his jacket off on the way there, so there's no way he wasn't preparing himself for some kind of physical confrontation, Haye definitely throws the first two punches, even if it is provoked by Chisora shoving his microphone-clutching fist into his face. I couldn't believe it when the tripod starts swinging around, I mean Jesus these are supposed to be professional sportsmen. Haye then legs it and isn't seen again, whereas at least nutjob Chisora calms down to the point where he wipes the blood off Adam Booth's head with a towel. Absolutely ridiculous. Haye should face criminal charges for his part in it, whereas you could argue (maybe) that Chisora doesn't really do anything illegal, but only because he can't seem to get to Haye. He should still be pulled up by the BBBofC for spitting in Wlad's face, his part in the brawl and his general conduct.
Bottom line is that I daresay this will provide a lot of hype for a fight between Haye and Chisora, which I don't think will ever happen because Haye won't come out of 'retirement' for anyone who's surname isn't Klitschko. I don't think it'll help Chisora get another fight with the Klitschkos either, since I daresay they're thinking this whole episode has been more trouble than it's worth.
Great post kinda sums it up totally... I think the only thing I would disagree with is Chisora threatening to shoot him could possibly be illegal.
If he didn't make them threats he might have come out of all this without being blamed for anything apart from being dumb and intimidating :-\