Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
If the twat would have had another mystery illness I'd be on the wagon but nobody and especially a celebrity/ part time boxer like Haye would risk a cut like that and on that spot in order to get a bigger payday or get out of a fight. You get sliced there once or twice that close to the bone and pretty soon its rice paper and you are bleeding like Arturro Gatti. Meaning on the way to the ring. I'd have to go back and look but I'm pretty sure he's been cut there at least once before. Shit like that can be career ending even if its part time. Nobody premeditates stuff like this especially a guy in his position. Thinking it makes the line between hate and fundamental stupidity look pretty fine.
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@IamInuit , no one seriously believes Haye cut himself, bro. But you gotta admit..... the guy has a history of "hard-to-ignore" shit. First he breaks Guinness world records for trash-talking before Wlad, and proceeds to stink up the ring, all the while blaming his big toe. He considers himself a celebrity, as many of you well state, and thus is somehow exempt from having to grunt his way to a championship fight against a Klitschko. It's like.... "Honey, I'm home. Is dinner ready?" He thinks he's entitled because he's David Fucking Haye. He's got a history of pulling out of fights for mysterious reasons. And now that he had his fans practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a good fight against Fury..... he moronically exposes himself to a fight-postponing injury in a sparring session, obviously without any headgear. I've seen real fights stopped for lesser cuts than that one. So on top of it all, he disrespects his sport... and his fans.
Why should anyone cut him any slack?
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IamInuit ,
no one seriously believes Haye cut himself, bro. But you gotta admit..... the guy has a history of "hard-to-ignore" shit. First he breaks Guinness world records for trash-talking before Wlad, and proceeds to stink up the ring, all the while blaming his big toe. He considers himself a celebrity, as many of you well state, and thus is somehow exempt from having to grunt his way to a championship fight against a Klitschko. It's like....
"Honey, I'm home. Is dinner ready?" He thinks he's entitled because he's David Fucking Haye. He's got a history of pulling out of fights for mysterious reasons. And now that he had his fans practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a good fight against Fury..... he moronically exposes himself to a fight-postponing injury in a sparring session, obviously without any headgear. I've seen real fights stopped for lesser cuts than that one. So on top of it all, he disrespects his sport... and his fans.
Why should anyone cut him any slack?
My friend that's fence sitting a bit and no offense personally. You simply cant lead off with that statement and have me take it all that seriously. You cant on the one hand agree that its ridiculous to think he cut himself or allowed himself to be cut and then doubt it because of past shady deeds.
A cut ended the fight. That's it. No conspiracy. Nobody volunteers that injury.
Besides, does anyone outside of a Haye hater actually believe that such a lumbering double left footed telegraphing oaf had a chance to even take this fight deep? Btw I'm half Irish on my fathers side. Fury's still a reincarnation of Primo Carnera and empirical evidence for history repeating itself.
Had to edit. 1/4 Irish. My dads mom was Norwegian.
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Did David Haye use the same kind of makeup to fake his cut as they used to fake the cuts in Spartacus: Blood and Sand?
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IamInuit ,
no one seriously believes Haye cut himself, bro. But you gotta admit..... the guy has a history of "hard-to-ignore" shit. First he breaks Guinness world records for trash-talking before Wlad, and proceeds to stink up the ring, all the while blaming his big toe. He considers himself a celebrity, as many of you well state, and thus is somehow exempt from having to grunt his way to a championship fight against a Klitschko. It's like....
"Honey, I'm home. Is dinner ready?" He thinks he's entitled because he's David Fucking Haye. He's got a history of pulling out of fights for mysterious reasons. And now that he had his fans practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a good fight against Fury..... he moronically exposes himself to a fight-postponing injury in a sparring session, obviously without any headgear. I've seen real fights stopped for lesser cuts than that one. So on top of it all, he disrespects his sport... and his fans.
Why should anyone cut him any slack?
My friend that's fence sitting a bit and no offense personally. You simply cant lead off with that statement and have me take it all that seriously. You cant on the one hand agree that its ridiculous to think he cut himself or allowed himself to be cut and then doubt it because of past shady deeds.
A cut ended the fight. That's it. No conspiracy. Nobody volunteers that injury.
Besides, does anyone outside of a Haye hater actually believe that such a lumbering double left footed telegraphing oaf had a chance to even take this fight deep? Btw I'm half Irish on my fathers side. Fury's still a reincarnation of Primo Carnera and empirical evidence for history repeating itself.
Had to edit. 1/4 Irish. My dads mom was Norwegian.
@IamInuit , I'm trying mightily to convey something you're somehow not understanding.
Did he cut himself? No.
Did he allow himself to get cut? No.
Was he foolish and reckless in sparring without a headgear and exposing himself to a fight-postponing injury?
Fuck yeah.
I knew you would attract flies with the fence-sitting comment.
Unfortunate choice of words from someone whose opinion I respect.
Nothing contradictory or fence-sitting about my comments, bro.
I invite you to reread them as many times as necessary until it sinks in.
I'll help if needed.
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Oooooooh.....fence sitting. :-)
Not quite a straw man or Aunt Sally.
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Will David Haye compensate Tyson Fury for his training costs? Sparring partners like Steve Cunningham & Eddie Chambers don't come cheap.
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I'm not sure what Haye would have to gain by fabricating this. He was responsible for sky shelving PPV with some piss poor fights against Valuev, Audley and Wlad, he's backed out of fights before - admittedly for understandable reasons, but it's still going to piss people off that buy tickets/arrange travel to his fights - against Wlad and Charr. Pulling out of a fight now, a week before it's scheduled to happen, and for the second time in 6 months, could well be the straw that breaks the camel's back for the fans that buy tickets to the fights and sky who invest money in showing them. I honestly can't see any upside to faking this injury unless a deal is in place to fight Vitali. It's probably a bit reckless to pick up a sparring injury like this a week out when most people would be tapering their training down but I don't doubt it's legitimacy cos there really isn't any benefit to pulling out for Haye.
The benefit to Haye was not losing to Fury.
This forum alone id say over 80% think that Haye will win and win early so if he had lost he becomes a laughing stock and loses and viability he may have had as a future Klitschko opponent.
That last point you made just sank your own ship, why would one of the Klits put their time into a fight with an unreliable opponent? They wouldn't waste their time with a flake. Your theory won't hold enough air to stay above water, it just will not sail. Abandon the Dark side, come back to the Light. lol
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IamInuit ,
no one seriously believes Haye cut himself, bro. But you gotta admit..... the guy has a history of "hard-to-ignore" shit. First he breaks Guinness world records for trash-talking before Wlad, and proceeds to stink up the ring, all the while blaming his big toe. He considers himself a celebrity, as many of you well state, and thus is somehow exempt from having to grunt his way to a championship fight against a Klitschko. It's like....
"Honey, I'm home. Is dinner ready?" He thinks he's entitled because he's David Fucking Haye. He's got a history of pulling out of fights for mysterious reasons. And now that he had his fans practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a good fight against Fury..... he moronically exposes himself to a fight-postponing injury in a sparring session, obviously without any headgear. I've seen real fights stopped for lesser cuts than that one. So on top of it all, he disrespects his sport... and his fans.
Why should anyone cut him any slack?
My friend that's fence sitting a bit and no offense personally. You simply cant lead off with that statement and have me take it all that seriously. You cant on the one hand agree that its ridiculous to think he cut himself or allowed himself to be cut and then doubt it because of past shady deeds.
A cut ended the fight. That's it. No conspiracy. Nobody volunteers that injury.
Besides, does anyone outside of a Haye hater actually believe that such a lumbering double left footed telegraphing oaf had a chance to even take this fight deep? Btw I'm half Irish on my fathers side. Fury's still a reincarnation of Primo Carnera and empirical evidence for history repeating itself.
Had to edit. 1/4 Irish. My dads mom was Norwegian.
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IamInuit , I'm trying mightily to convey something you're somehow not understanding.
Did he cut himself? No.
Did he allow himself to get cut? No.
Was he foolish and reckless in sparring without a headgear and exposing himself to a fight-postponing injury?
Fuck yeah.
I knew you would attract flies with the fence-sitting comment.
Unfortunate choice of words from someone whose opinion I respect.
Nothing contradictory or fence-sitting about my comments, bro.
I invite you to reread them as many times as necessary until it sinks in.
I'll help if needed.
What a patronising puke of a post. Lighten up, you are so NEGATIVE and hysterical.
I realize it's not rambling and pointless, so it figures you wouldn't like it.
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Do we know that he wasn't wearing headgear? Is it really that uncommon to do some final sparring a week before a fight:dontknow: If neither is a yes, then this is just really bad luck. Haye does absolutely have the history and he's going to catch a lot of flack because of it, but I don't see what that has to do with this in reality.
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TitoFan
I'm trying mightily to convey something you're somehow not understanding.
Did he cut himself? No.
Did he allow himself to get cut? No.
Was he foolish and reckless in sparring without a headgear and exposing himself to a fight-postponing injury?
Fuck yeah.
I knew you would attract flies with the fence-sitting comment.
Unfortunate choice of words from someone whose opinion I respect.
Nothing contradictory or fence-sitting about my comments, bro.
I invite you to reread them as many times as necessary until it sinks in.
I'll help if needed.
I could be a little daft and missing something. I smoke a fair bit of weed and am over 50. I'm understanding quite nicely I think. David Haye got cut in sparring. I dont know that he was sparring without head gear and even if he was so what? Lots of fighters do and have done this. A week before the fight sure that's ego or something and Murphy then entered the room. But I dont know that he was not wearing head gear unless I missed something.
Why was fence sitting such an insult. You dont believe anything was up but then conclude that there is. Its a Canadian expression. Please dont involve me in the board politics. I'm the same guy I was yesterday and believe that I call it all as I see it. There is nothing personal about this and especially this topic. I have no vested interest in David Haye. He could get hit by a bus Sunday on his way to a photo shoot and existentially I could care less.
Fact is you and others view this as something of ulterior in the motive department and I just think its nutbar to think so.
