Weird how the British judge had Ward winning by the widest margin then.Quote:
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Weird how the British judge had Ward winning by the widest margin then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Exactly, I hate to hear Ward talk. Haha mr big balls didn't take the bait from gray on the Bute talk. I wish he would.
Froch surprisingly humble
Froch is classy in defeat, giving Ward his due and admitting that Ward was just too slick, much respect to him for not crying like a girl. Seriously.....MUCH RESPECT TO FROCH
Typical Ward win, ugly and boring..
...and decisiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Froch was looking, talking and sniffing like he just did a couple of quick lines
Gus Johnson is by far a bigger Homer than Lampley intoxicated.
Class by Froch but putting lipstick on the pig repeating Ward stayed out of harms way all night. Good show by both at end
Froch's nose looks well dodgy and fair play on his interview. He admitted his flaws, it's just a shame he didn't prepare for it and was just looking to get his shots off.
Ward is good, but just doesn't ever look very impressive to me. I just watch it and think 'eugh'.
I would love to see Hopkins against Ward as I do have sleeping issues. I could record it and watch it nightly.
Didnt watch after fight commentary or scorecards figured clear enough win for ward why listen to em, but wow 115-113 those are awefully close. I gave froch 3 rounds and those rounds he won cause he went balls out, as much heart as froch has i always feel like he leaves a little bit in the tank, and that cost him the kessler fight. Bute could compete with ward in speed and outside skill but think ward would make it an inside fight and hed maul bute, and i used to think bute would win but ward might just be a bit to good all around. Also really ward fought clean and didnt really do any spoiling in this fight imo and was fairly exciting.
Ward deserves the respect. He proved himself in the ring, and everything he said after the fight was just fine - just as humble (if not quite as humbled) as Froch.
Got a crop of haters who aren't looking straight here. No surprise ...
He's officially # 1 on mic divas who need to play on a rain soaked unlit highway at midnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Diane
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You know What they say about guys with big noses right!
Good performance from ward but Froch is one of the toughest fighters out there. Ward will go on to even bigger things but hope Froch will be back for a brawl.
with ya hundred percent despise ward, he's a greaty but i massively dislike himQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Well done Ward, convincing win for him but not sure how many times I can watch him fight. Has this man ever been in an exciting fight?
Good to see class from them both at the end, wonder if Khan has been taking any notes?!
what this guy saidQuote:
Originally Posted by armin
Seriously it's a joke. And then Bernstein and Tarver laugh like 2 lackeys.. Larry merchant would strangle him with a microphone cord
Sick that if one more Ward round had been scored for Froch, it would have been a draw.
Ward won the fight and was the better man on the night. I scored it as fairly as I could which was 9-3 Ward. I give him his dues in that regard, but am I excited about seeing him fight and do I like his style? Not really, I find it dull. I'm also not really sure about thanking the saints who have prayed for him. That is just weirdo talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I find it funny when boxing fans talk about hating. Any criticism is deemed hate on these forums. It's much easier to just stick labels on people with many opinions rather than accepting that their criticisms are just as valid and certainly more honest than those who just want to talk about pink fluffy rainbows all night long.
Tam, a little advise, Venereal disease is here for one reason, to talk trash about Froch, troll, and stir up shit on the boxing forum ignore the fucking cretin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonHow is Froch a fraud ? your not a fraud for getting to the final. Yeah Froch lost but it shows how good ward actually is. He will clean up the 168 weight class and will no doubt keep on beating the best. Froch got beaten by the better fighter there's no shame in that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All of the sudden we have Dana white in reading glasses ??? on Showtime
EDIT : I got a bug on my computer and this comment was posted in the wrong thread. Admin you can delete this post.
Spoiler much?!
Let you know how much the super six meant to the outside world... Absolutely nothing! Usually after a big fight espn will send a text alert letting you know the winner... Got nothing
i thought the fight was quite entertaining, Ward landed some nice shots, bullied Froch on the inside n held the centre of the ring well. Considering Froch was suppose to be one of the best in the division he got absolutely taken to school. Ward has to be up there P4P hopefully he fights Bute next then move up n get it on with Hopkins.
I agree with Armin, Froch just doesn't allow himself to really lay it all on the line. He waits an awful lot in fights and I was worried before the start that he would start slow and yet again he did just that. He was trying to outjab Ward and I think a round of doing that should have made him realise that he would need to fight a different kind of fight. He started doing that a little when he realised there were just 2 rounds to go and was finally walking through Ward, but too little too late. Just a bit frustrating to watch really as you sense Ward doesn't have good stamina. He tired against Bika and the same happened here.
Still, you have two men in the ring and a pre agreed 12 rounds. Ward, got it right. Froch didn't.
I've never understood why Showtime employs Gus Johnson, he's a horrible announcer.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Well if that shoe fit, I'd wear it. Since it doesn't, I won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWard won the fight and was the better man on the night. I scored it as fairly as I could which was 9-3 Ward. I give him his dues in that regard, but am I excited about seeing him fight and do I like his style? Not really, I find it dull. I'm also not really sure about thanking the saints who have prayed for him. That is just weirdo talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I find it funny when boxing fans talk about hating. Any criticism is deemed hate on these forums. It's much easier to just stick labels on people with many opinions rather than accepting that their criticisms are just as valid and certainly more honest than those who just want to talk about pink fluffy rainbows all night long.
Criticism is one thing, and hate is another. Easily distinguished. Your points are true in a general way, but if you read this thread you'll see that they aren't pertinent here.
I don't see much criticism of Ward. Wishing that his next boxing match would put him in a coma ... criticism or hate? He's a douche ... criticism or hate? Those aren't "opinions" or "critques."
You know, I'm sure, what you can do with your fluffy pink rainbow, so I won't bother to offer any suggestions.
As far as Ward's style - it wasn't the most exciting. But it was effective. He could have stayed outside and it would have been even more boring. But he took it inside - all the way inside - avoiding Froch's comfortable range. He took it right to Froch, and fought a smart fight. Not sure what you find exciting but I actually respect something like this more than Mickey Ward and Gatti, even though there's more energy level with the bloody war.
Your comments anti-Ward are not what I consider hate. They don't quite rise to the level of intelligent criticism, either. You are really just talking about yourself - what kind of fights you do and don't like. Were you being critical, we'd learn something about Ward by reading what you say. Instead, we just learn about you.
I admit it. I just don't care for him. He is super annoying. It's irrational but It is what it is
Ward is one the top 3-5 best boxers on the planet. Future 1 P4P maybe.
Fully aware of that no doubt, but it's funny seeing him fully abuse British fighters when they lose. I don't rise to it. Froch lost and I have no shame in saying it. Froch admitted it himself and he wasn't bitching either. The better fighter won and by no means VD does that mean Froch is a fraud. He will give us more entertainment when he fights against fighters who aren't as commanding as Ward. Ward proved his class tonight and will continue to do that. Froch will hopefully get some big fights too, I really hope he pushes for a Kessler rematch that will no doubt be another war. Froch can still win fights at 168 and he is still in the top 3-4 in the weightclass. He could still fight Bute if he wins or loses to Ward. Froch if he can fight/beat Kessler will still be up there with the best. Better luck next time carl, you still a great fighter and look forward to seeing you in again soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axTam, a little advise, Venereal disease is here for one reason, to talk trash about Froch, troll, and stir up shit on the boxing forum ignore the fucking cretin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonHow is Froch a fraud ? your not a fraud for getting to the final. Yeah Froch lost but it shows how good ward actually is. He will clean up the 168 weight class and will no doubt keep on beating the best. Froch got beaten by the better fighter there's no shame in that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Froch never seemed to be all that effective with his punches, he did catch Ward from time to time, but too few and far in-between. I give Ward all the credit for this, he smothered Froch's punches, landed some nice shots and kept him on the defensive much of the night. Ward is sort of like a poor man's Mayweather, slick, decent skills, but 3 times more nauseating .
Impressive win for Ward? I guess, but who really cares, i'd rather watch two buzzards fuck, than see another one of Andre Ward's fights.
Just follow along on the boards, and we'll tell you about it when he beats Bute; you won't have to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by NuthaPugWell if that shoe fit, I'd wear it. Since it doesn't, I won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWard won the fight and was the better man on the night. I scored it as fairly as I could which was 9-3 Ward. I give him his dues in that regard, but am I excited about seeing him fight and do I like his style? Not really, I find it dull. I'm also not really sure about thanking the saints who have prayed for him. That is just weirdo talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I find it funny when boxing fans talk about hating. Any criticism is deemed hate on these forums. It's much easier to just stick labels on people with many opinions rather than accepting that their criticisms are just as valid and certainly more honest than those who just want to talk about pink fluffy rainbows all night long.
Criticism is one thing, and hate is another. Easily distinguished. Your points are true in a general way, but if you read this thread you'll see that they aren't pertinent here.
I don't see much criticism of Ward. Wishing that his next boxing match would put him in a coma ... criticism or hate? He's a douche ... criticism or hate? Those aren't "opinions" or "critques."
You know, I'm sure, what you can do with your fluffy pink rainbow, so I won't bother to offer any suggestions.
As far as Ward's style - it wasn't the most exciting. But it was effective. He could have stayed outside and it would have been even more boring. But he took it inside - all the way inside - avoiding Froch's comfortable range. He took it right to Froch, and fought a smart fight. Not sure what you find exciting but I actually respect something like this more than Mickey Ward and Gatti, even though there's more energy level with the bloody war.
Your comments anti-Ward are not what I consider hate. They don't quite rise to the level of intelligent criticism, either. You are really just talking about yourself - what kind of fights you do and don't like. Were you being critical, we'd learn something about Ward by reading what you say. Instead, we just learn about you.
Ward is a douche. He's a total douchebag, but he's also one of the top three fighters in the world.
I can't stand the guy and listening to him spew all his arrogant religious bullshit drives me crazy, but he's not likely to lose for a long time.
I'd have him at number 3. I don't really see much of an argument for putting Hopkins or Martinez above him, but I'm sure many will disagree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Well like I said in my last post, Carl just never looked comfortable in there tonight, and I give the credit for that to Ward, he's a very hard man for anyone to fight. What might have made a big difference for Froch would have been able to catch Ward with some big shots, but he never was able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonFully aware of that no doubt, but it's funny seeing him fully abuse British fighters when they lose. I don't rise to it. Froch lost and I have no shame in saying it. Froch admitted it himself and he wasn't bitching either. The better fighter won and by no means VD does that mean Froch is a fraud. He will give us more entertainment when he fights against fighters who aren't as commanding as Ward. Ward proved his class tonight and will continue to do that. Froch will hopefully get some big fights too, I really hope he pushes for a Kessler rematch that will no doubt be another war. Froch can still win fights at 168 and he is still in the top 3-4 in the weightclass. He could still fight Bute if he wins or loses to Ward. Froch if he can fight/beat Kessler will still be up there with the best. Better luck next time carl, you still a great fighter and look forward to seeing you in again soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axTam, a little advise, Venereal disease is here for one reason, to talk trash about Froch, troll, and stir up shit on the boxing forum ignore the fucking cretin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonHow is Froch a fraud ? your not a fraud for getting to the final. Yeah Froch lost but it shows how good ward actually is. He will clean up the 168 weight class and will no doubt keep on beating the best. Froch got beaten by the better fighter there's no shame in that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
No, it isn't intelligent criticism to say that you don't enjoy a fighters style nor enjoy their post fight babble. It is just an opinion and it is valid on its own terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPugWell if that shoe fit, I'd wear it. Since it doesn't, I won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWard won the fight and was the better man on the night. I scored it as fairly as I could which was 9-3 Ward. I give him his dues in that regard, but am I excited about seeing him fight and do I like his style? Not really, I find it dull. I'm also not really sure about thanking the saints who have prayed for him. That is just weirdo talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I find it funny when boxing fans talk about hating. Any criticism is deemed hate on these forums. It's much easier to just stick labels on people with many opinions rather than accepting that their criticisms are just as valid and certainly more honest than those who just want to talk about pink fluffy rainbows all night long.
Criticism is one thing, and hate is another. Easily distinguished. Your points are true in a general way, but if you read this thread you'll see that they aren't pertinent here.
I don't see much criticism of Ward. Wishing that his next boxing match would put him in a coma ... criticism or hate? He's a douche ... criticism or hate? Those aren't "opinions" or "critques."
You know, I'm sure, what you can do with your fluffy pink rainbow, so I won't bother to offer any suggestions.
As far as Ward's style - it wasn't the most exciting. But it was effective. He could have stayed outside and it would have been even more boring. But he took it inside - all the way inside - avoiding Froch's comfortable range. He took it right to Froch, and fought a smart fight. Not sure what you find exciting but I actually respect something like this more than Mickey Ward and Gatti, even though there's more energy level with the bloody war.
Your comments anti-Ward are not what I consider hate. They don't quite rise to the level of intelligent criticism, either. You are really just talking about yourself - what kind of fights you do and don't like. Were you being critical, we'd learn something about Ward by reading what you say. Instead, we just learn about you.
I responded to your post as it was earlier suggested (by another poster) that I hate American fighters and it is just blatantly untrue. I seem to get called a hater quite a lot and on the whole don't think it is hate to criticize a fighters style or what they say. You like what you like and it is typically something that connects with you in some way.
I certainly don't hate Ward, I just find him dull. I for one have no desire to see any fighter in a coma either. I can't take it that seriously. That's really nasty talk.
It's just a figure of speech. As violent as the sport is, no fan actually wants to see anyone get seriously hurt. It's just entertainment at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNo, it isn't intelligent criticism to say that you don't enjoy a fighters style nor enjoy their post fight babble. It is just an opinion and it is valid on its own terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPugWell if that shoe fit, I'd wear it. Since it doesn't, I won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWard won the fight and was the better man on the night. I scored it as fairly as I could which was 9-3 Ward. I give him his dues in that regard, but am I excited about seeing him fight and do I like his style? Not really, I find it dull. I'm also not really sure about thanking the saints who have prayed for him. That is just weirdo talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NuthaPug
I find it funny when boxing fans talk about hating. Any criticism is deemed hate on these forums. It's much easier to just stick labels on people with many opinions rather than accepting that their criticisms are just as valid and certainly more honest than those who just want to talk about pink fluffy rainbows all night long.
Criticism is one thing, and hate is another. Easily distinguished. Your points are true in a general way, but if you read this thread you'll see that they aren't pertinent here.
I don't see much criticism of Ward. Wishing that his next boxing match would put him in a coma ... criticism or hate? He's a douche ... criticism or hate? Those aren't "opinions" or "critques."
You know, I'm sure, what you can do with your fluffy pink rainbow, so I won't bother to offer any suggestions.
As far as Ward's style - it wasn't the most exciting. But it was effective. He could have stayed outside and it would have been even more boring. But he took it inside - all the way inside - avoiding Froch's comfortable range. He took it right to Froch, and fought a smart fight. Not sure what you find exciting but I actually respect something like this more than Mickey Ward and Gatti, even though there's more energy level with the bloody war.
Your comments anti-Ward are not what I consider hate. They don't quite rise to the level of intelligent criticism, either. You are really just talking about yourself - what kind of fights you do and don't like. Were you being critical, we'd learn something about Ward by reading what you say. Instead, we just learn about you.
I responded to your post as it was earlier suggested (by another poster) that I hate American fighters and it is just blatantly untrue. I seem to get called a hater quite a lot and on the whole don't think it is hate to criticize a fighters style or what they say. You like what you like and it is typically something that connects with you in some way.
I certainly don't hate Ward, I just find him dull. I for one have no desire to see any fighter in a coma either. I can't take it that seriously. That's really nasty talk.
Hey Lobowolf, fuck off!Quote:
Originally Posted by LobowolfXXXJust follow along on the boards, and we'll tell you about it when he beats Bute; you won't have to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
j/k man, congrats on being right about the outcome, good call.