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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook just gave up. No shame.though, Brook's stock still goes up.
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook was had gave up. No shame.though, Brook's stock still goes up.
Brook took the money and run.
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It went about how I thought. Brook went all in at the beginning and couldn't sustain it. Really weird stoppage. I'm wondering if there was something said in the corner that we don't know. It's as if Brook said "once I start getting hit a few times and stop throwing, then just throw in the towel so I don't have to quit myself."
I also think that GGG just wanted to put on a show for the London fans which is why he just swung and didn't use much technique.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook
This is the most condescending shit ever, GGG and Sanchez talking about how lucky Brook was that his corner stopped it.
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WTF was that stoppage?
Did Brook's corner stop the fight because they though Brook might get knocked down?
He was still landing, and defending himself for the most part. Not to mention he was probably up on most everybody's cards.
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook was had gave up. No shame.though,
Brook's stock still goes up.
It did in the beginning. But the way it ended I think makes him look bad
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Brooks eye looks fine in the interview. Ggg is savage says he didn't feel anything lol
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Originally Posted by
powerpuncher
It went about how I thought. Brook went all in at the beginning and couldn't sustain it. Really weird stoppage. I'm wondering if there was something said in the corner that we don't know. It's as if Brook said "once I start getting hit a few times and stop throwing, then just throw in the towel so I don't have to quit myself."
I also think that GGG just wanted to put on a show for the London fans which is why he just swung and didn't use much technique.
Based on Brook's reaction, I think that must be it.
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook was had gave up. No shame.though, Brook's stock still goes up.
Brook to the money and run.
it's things like this that makes master like thurman more than brook !
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palmerq
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook was had gave up. No shame.though, Brook's stock still goes up.
Brook to the money and run.
it's things like this that makes master like thurman more than brook !
Brook wants a rematch. :)
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Brits are a bunch of quitters!
If it's not the ref stopping the fight early, it's the corner--and the commentators applaud it.
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g3org3
Feel bad for brook looked pure quality in spots but has no business at 160 his punches had zero effect on ggg
Agreed, I thought his shots looked weaker just before the quit. I can see why they saved him if they thought his socket is broke ,be interesting to see if it is.
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Master
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palmerq
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
What makes this shit worse is Brook ain't even arguing
I actually agree. When Brooks corner was waving towel I was furious, then Brook just accepts it.
I reckon the corner knew his eye was bad and Brook was had gave up. No shame.though, Brook's stock still goes up.
Brook to the money and run.
it's things like this that makes master like thurman more than brook !
Brook wants a rematch. :)
Maybe next time they'll stop it on the ring walk. Bit of a farce
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It was only a matter of time before it got stopped anyway
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook
Much better fight than I expected. I think Brook as much as admitted something was said in the corner during the interview. Seemed as though he was counting on being able to match strength more than he could, kind of fought out of his skin and once he was sapped of what he had he was going out hard. Certainly not a great showing for GGG, but as much as his size advantage will be played up, it's probably hard to look good against a smaller and quicker guy who basically fought a 4 rounder.
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Too many conspiracy theories here, great attempt from Brook, who clearly was not up to the furious pace in the last round, fair play to his corner. His efforts did open a potential 'window' of opportunity for future GGG opponents to copy. I wouldn't count BJS or EU JR as capable of exploiting those opportunities, neither of them would get beyond round 3 in my opinion.
GGG is the new Elvis
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook
It was a fun fight. Brook started fast, GGG telegraphed a few shots, but once GGG settled down the fight was his. The body shots hurt and round by round Brook began to slow and GGG started to land with more regularity.
The stoppage was as lame as you are going to get. A typical British stoppage and one where fans should demand a refund. If they stop a movie half way through saying 'It's an 18, just too violent' you would be outraged, but in the UK they do it to boxing fans all the time. If you don't want boxing then don't have it.
As can be seen Brook has nothing more than a mouse. Even if it had continued it is unlikely he would end up like Margarito and even if he did, you should give it your all. It was a cop out white towel to say, 'We weren't knocked out', but it was coming in a round or two and GGG and the fans were robbed of that. They let Brook look sharp, but denied GGG his defining ending.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook
Lara would outbox GGG (not sure)
Ward would dismantle GGG
GGG should (from a business perspective) go for Saunders next and then Jacobs.
Then when he gets to 38 years old canelo will be ready for him.
Brook has to fight spence next or a big money fight with canelo or smith..he is still in a good position.
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Brook gave a good performance the eye damage if the socket is broken the stoppage is correct.
GGG is a tough guy but Brook showed us a blue print how to beat him but who, GGG would wipe the floor with BJS it may be time for Eubank to step up.
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Dia bando
Brook gave a good performance the eye damage if the socket is broken the stoppage is correct.
GGG is a tough guy but Brook showed us a blue print how to beat him but who, GGG would wipe the floor with BJS it may be time for Eubank to step up.
I said before the brook fight I believe jr would beat ggg
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I think the eye happened to be quite convenient for them, he was going to get beaten up, first thing GGG said is 'Brook is not a middleweight' Paulie said some of the punches might have hurt GGG but they didn't hurt him enough.
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imp
Lara would outbox GGG
Ward would dismantle GGG
GGG should (from a business perspective) go for Saunders next and then Jacobs.
Then when he gets to 38 years old canelo will be ready for him.
Brook has to fight spence next or a big money fight with canelo or smith..he is still in a good position.
Laras a good fight but he doesnt have the chin to beat GGG. GGG stops him in the middle rounds. Ward probably beats him easy on points in a horrible fight. But thats never gonna happen. GGG has never fought at 168 and Ward is up at 175 now.
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Batman
I think the eye happened to be quite convenient for them, he was going to get beaten up, first thing GGG said is 'Brook is not a middleweight' Paulie said some of the punches might have hurt GGG but they didn't hurt him enough.
Brook did hurt GGG you can tell he did buzz him .
The natural weight difference did show at the end.
Hat's off to Brook he faced a truly great Champion.
Kell will be a light middle weight Champion on that performance.
GGG is the best Middleweight I have seen since Hagler would GGG beat Marvelous Marvin NO.
Let's enjoy GGG because all to soon he will be gone , Jacob's will get smashed if he faces GGG simple.
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Batman
I think the eye happened to be quite convenient for them, he was going to get beaten up, first thing GGG said is 'Brook is not a middleweight' Paulie said some of the punches might have hurt GGG but they didn't hurt him enough.
Brook did hurt GGG you can tell he did buzz him .
Agreed, but they didn't hurt him enough, GGG was quite content to walk through them to get to the target by the fourth round
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This was not a blueprint to beat GGG. Most fighters can use all of their energy to fight 4 rounds and look good. Pascal did the same thing to kovalev. Khan did the same thing to canelo.
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It was though the perfect blueprint on how to avoid getting brutally stopped. I hope other fighters choose to avoid such a route. If you don't want to get stopped, then don't fight.
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Early stoppage and anti climatic but that fight was only going one way n brook should thank ingle actually
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g3org3
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
Brook gave a good performance the eye damage if the socket is broken the stoppage is correct.
GGG is a tough guy but Brook showed us a blue print how to beat him but who, GGG would wipe the floor with BJS it may be time for Eubank to step up.
I said before the brook fight I believe jr would beat ggg
Jr. Wouldn't last 3 rounds. That's why they never took the fight.
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Brook tweeted a few hours ago that he's out of hospital and needs an opera ton next week
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook
GGG's wild swinging and straight bulldoggin' through Brook's punches raised an eye brow for me at first. When Kell boxed beautifully in the 2nd round I admit I was wondering what was going on. Even with those two things, it wasn't fazing nor turning GGG back. Hat's off for Brook, one tough mofo. I agree the corner saved him from being KO'd but he had the cojones to get in there with GGG, a lot more than what you can say about other middleweight "champions".
I'm gonna be optimistic, and hope the WBO and WBA issue mandatory title defenses for Jacob's and Saunders. Pathetic that titleholders have to be forced by the organizations to fight other champions. GGG wants another fight in December, so gonna cross my fingers.
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GGG's wild swinging and straight bulldoggin' through Brook's punches raised an eye brow for me at first. When Kell boxed beautifully in the 2nd round I admit I was wondering what was going on. Even with those two things, it wasn't fazing nor turning GGG back. Hat's off for Brook, one tough mofo. I agree the corner saved him from being KO'd but he had the cojones to get in there with GGG, a lot more than what you can say about other middleweight "champions".
I'm gonna be optimistic, and hope the WBO and WBA issue mandatory title defenses for Jacob's and Saunders. Pathetic that titleholders have to be forced by the organizations to fight other champions. GGG wants another fight in December, so gonna cross my fingers.
Even if they try and force it they could always just drop the belts due to the "artificial deadlines" like someone else did
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What Brook showed if there is a good boxer puncher out there at the weight.
GGG was hit a lot he has little head movement a good boxer with a big punch would make it interesting.
But there are no contender's out there I feel that can push GGG.
Kell was the best boxer GGG has faced so far .
The blue print GGG can be outboxed imagine if Brook was a full hard hitting middle weight, Kell is a very good fighter he is tough most expected him to be blown away in a round. Brook deserves respect he showed some balls.
The boo boy's are idiots a broken eye socket can be a career ending injury, or you could end up being blind hopefully everything will go okay good luck with his surgery.
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Primo Carnera
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g3org3
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Dia bando
Brook gave a good performance the eye damage if the socket is broken the stoppage is correct.
GGG is a tough guy but Brook showed us a blue print how to beat him but who, GGG would wipe the floor with BJS it may be time for Eubank to step up.
I said before the brook fight I believe jr would beat ggg
Jr. Wouldn't last 3 rounds. That's why they never took the fight.
Junior would go further as he is big, fast and better durability, he still would lose.
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Originally Posted by
frozensolid-702
WTF was that stoppage?
Did Brook's corner stop the fight because they though Brook might get knocked down?
He was still landing, and defending himself for the most part. Not to mention he was probably up on most everybody's cards.
No way should he have been up!
1 round is all he should have had!
He was also not "still landing" he was getting hit with everything, wasnt really defending himself properly and not fighting back or even trying to survive by holding. You cant let the ref see you get get and not fight back. You have to defend yourself at all times.
What happened is what most thought would happen. Brooks speed would keep him in the fight till the mid rounds but Golovkin strength and power would take over.
If Ingle or the ref hadn't stopped it, Golovkin was about to.
Iv also heard Hearn say that if Brook was a middle he would have won. No! Brooks orbital bone was broken because he doesn't move his head. Being a middle wouldn't have helped him move his head. He also didn't either didn't have the stamina to keep up the pace he tried to set, or he tried to put too much on his punches. Golovkin takes a good shot, he regularly sparred Kovalev for 18 months and Kovalev says he has a very hard head, never seen him hurt or dropped.
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Hearn also said he was winning on the cards. HTF was that happening?
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I've just watched the fight back, I think I got a little taken in by the athmosphere and by Brooks effort.
Even when Brook landed his biggest shots they just bounced of GGG, he wasn't hurt once, he was walking through Brooks punches and loading up on both the head and body of Brook, Kell took the shots at the start but by the 5th it was a case of job done, watching it back I don't actually think it was that bad of a stoppage, Brook had absolutely nothing to give.
First thing GGG said 'he's not a middleweight' couldn't agree more
Kell say's 'I didn't feel his power...in the second rd he fractured my eye socket'
Kell made himself sound like a bit of a fool at the end, trying to make out that he was completely in control and was hurting GGG but not getting hurt himself, come on Kell, you can't blame that on solely on your eye, you was getting beat up.
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Brook was hurt in the first round (forgot what punch it was) and GGG just backed away.
Brook then was moaning about the eye from the 2nd round.
i think Brook's accent makes him sound like a dick.
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Great Black Fighters In The Prime Rarely Lose To White Fighters
That's just historical fact.
The last time a that happened. You'd have back to when Max Schmeling beating Joe Louis, 80 years ago, in 1936. That is the last time you can say a genuine great black fighter (In his prime) lost to a white fighter. There have been a few borderline cases Marciano beating Ezzard Charles. But ~i can't think of any in recent history
And I would not even say Brook is a great fighter (Yet) But I do know the GGG hype train will come to end on Sep 10th. Triple G is not that good. And many people will be surprised at just how easy it is for Brook.
So Mr Denilson, can we get your thoughts on the fight?
I'm guessing Brook was winning the fight easy, he was play acting in the 5th round, it was an illigal headbutt that caused the fractured eye socket (therefore GGG should have been disqualified) and Dominic Ingle stopped the fight because he is a massive racist and didn't want the black man to win.
Am I right?