AJ got half way through boring everyone to death when Wlad jumped in to play Martin Luther King again.
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AJ got half way through boring everyone to death when Wlad jumped in to play Martin Luther King again.
AJ thanks the freeloaders for support.. blissfully unaware they're only all there because everyone loves an excuse not to work
Wlad acting like AJ's dad, helping him through the questions. Crowd keep clapping Wlad. He's now cracking jokes, loving it being the charismatic character
What a stupid gimmick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
There's shitloads of kids on this youtube stream, with eastern euro names (could be faking it), calling AJ a dirty nigger. Ape. Monkey. Muslim.
Muslim? Bit strong innit?
Now there's shitloads of kids with arab names (could be faking it) threatening hell fire on the dirty non-muslim infidels.
Wlad's and AJ's peace talk hit the spot.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
He's a top bloke.
Peter was a short fat slow plodder. He looked like one of those morbidly obese people they have to knock a wall down for and use a crane to get them out of their house. Or as you call them in America, an XL.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOH NO a shocking KO loss in his career.....Why he's the first....AND ONLY heavyweight for that to ever happen to!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Risk averse? He fought Sam Peter AFTER losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was likewise in a place of WIN or RETIRE...but no no, he's "risk averse" :shakehead: .....and even if you mean IN THE RING ....my God the fucking tragedy that is attempting NOT to get punched in the head.
Are you certain you're not retarded? Fucking Hell, you're missing a good opportunity if you aren't
And Junior was humiliated. Stumbling round the ring, up and down like a whore's drawers. Let's enjoy that fight again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEANlBbhsA
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Ahhhhh revisionist history, your specialty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATKwqF16v4
Such slow, such plodding...gee I wonder why people had Sam Peter as a favorite in that fight.....nah he was what did you call him....oh yeah
morbidly obese
Not "fat", not "out of shape", not "rotund"......morbidly obese.
You're a fucking joke son, 243 and he's "morbidly obese".....fucking JOKE
McCraken is a proper trainer ain't he?
I'm actually buying Wlad's confidence. I don't think he's done. I think we'll see the best Wlad.
Doesn't mean I think he'll win but I really don't think he's done.
I'm hoping so if only for the sake of an entertaining fight. Let the best man win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
So American. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Ahhhhh revisionist history, your specialty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATKwqF16v4
Such slow, such plodding...gee I wonder why people had Sam Peter as a favorite in that fight.....nah he was what did you call him....oh yeah
morbidly obese
Not "fat", not "out of shape", not "rotund"......morbidly obese.
You're a fucking joke son, 243 and he's "morbidly obese".....fucking JOKE
To be honest I'm not really interested in the pre fight hype , its all talk good or bad.
These men are boxers there to entertain us , so get in the right and throw punches and may the best man win .
A saw a poll on RingTv of 30 asked I think 29 were picking AJ.
To be fair, before the Fury v Wlad fight, it would've been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I think aj/wlad is a 50/50 fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTo be fair, before the Fury v Wlad fight, it would've been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I thought fury/wlad was a dead cert
This is certainly AJ biggest fight on his professional career and he will probably never fight anyone as experienced as Wlad ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI'm hoping so if only for the sake of an entertaining fight. Let the best man win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
AJ has to assert his power and aggression very early in the fight to show he is the real deal champion. Wlad may then go into his shell and try to negate AJ behind his ram rod jab and take it past the half way point where he will pick up his attack and try and take the title as AJ tires.
Would everyone be surprised if Wlad charged out throwing bombs from the get go?
That would be the wrong tactic because he would be facing a huge puncher but the high pace could pay off later in the fight if he did manage to survive the onslaught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It could throw AJ off as it would be unexpected. Wlad could crack that chin a couple of times and catch him cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat would be the wrong tactic because he would be facing a huge puncher but the high pace could pay off later in the fight if he did manage to survive the onslaught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I'm not sure if Wlad is brave enough to go with that tactic. If it doesnt work out, the script that some people see playing out is flipped, Joshua grows into the fight as it goes on, Wlad's gamble doesnt pay off and he wilts.
They'll both be cagey to start, but Joshua will go for it soonest. Is Wlad ready for whats coming? Is Joshua ready to cope with what comes back if he doesn't get him out? It's a fascinating toss up.
It would be fantastic if Wlad came out aggressive like that. Fuck.. it'd be fantastic if Wlad came out and did anything other than paw and grab for 90% of every round.
It's almost unfair that the onus is on AJ to make it a spectacle.
Because of the location and public transport and whatnot the first bell is scheduled for 10pm.. so this will be a quick night leading to the main event, no filler
I thought Fury v Klit was 45/55Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44I think aj/wlad is a 50/50 fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTo be fair, before the Fury v Wlad fight, it would've been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I thought fury/wlad was a dead cert
I think AJ v Klit is 50/50
It's difficult to gauge the two fights because stylistically AJ and Fury are completely different.
I don't rate the undercard at all me
its a bit disappointing
Wladimir Klitschko has compared Anthony Joshua to 'Arnold Schwarzenegger' and suggests he will expose the IBF champion as a one-dimensional 'puncher.'
The former unified champion revealed at the final press conference how he has already predicted the winner of Saturday's heavyweight unification clash with Joshua at Wembley, live on Sky Sports Box Office.
Klitschko was impressed with Joshua's muscular physique when they posed for pictures, but has hinted that he views the unbeaten 27-year-old as a predictable opponent.
"I have never seen AJ as big as he is right now," said Klitschko. "He's as big as probably Arnold Schwarzenegger in his best times."
Asked to describe the comparison of styles, he added: "He's a puncher. I'm a boxer that can punch."
Vitali Klitschko, the former WBC heavyweight champion, has also made the trip to London and believes Joshua poses a more straightforward task for his younger brother after he was beaten on points by Tyson Fury in 2015.
"It's very difficult to fight against an unpredictable fighter as Fury and Joshua - my personal opinion - is very good for Wladimir," said Vitali. "From the style, I was happy.
"Before I received the information, I didn't see so many fights from Joshua and after that, then investigate, study him and was happy. Good opponent for Wladimir to show his skills."
Wlad: AJ just a 'puncher'
Levemir has one shot at this and only one shot period he has to come out throwing bombs when AJ is still stiff and tentative. AJ will be a little bit intimidated by Vladimir size and by his Prestige and persona. Klitschko has to Simply jump on this guy and not be cautious. If Klitschko starts out cause it's going to give AJ plenty of time to loosen up and throw a couple of one-twos. That would not be good for Vladimir AJ starts throwing one to every five or six seconds because he's going to get caught. The only other option Vladimir has to win is to turn this into an octopus festival and I don't see him being able to Octopussy AJ from more than one or two rounds
I think both Quigg and Campbell are in really good fights. I can understand why people think it's shit for a PPV but they're good matches in their own right.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Quigg-Simion is a great styles matchup. The Romainian gave Selby a tough fight, looked hard-as-nails and never stopped coming forward - that's his only loss. Should be a toe-to-toe punchup with Quigg's superior variety and vicious combos being the difference.
Quigg is 7/4 for the stoppage. Rds 7-12 3/1
Campbell is facing former champ Perez, whose only blip was against Crolla, since then he's scored another good win (robbed to a draw). Considering Campbell is a bit shakey around the canister, it's a credible step up.
Perez 6/1 KO ---- 9/2 win
Which is kind of how I see it although I see it slightly in AJ's favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44I think aj/wlad is a 50/50 fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTo be fair, before the Fury v Wlad fight, it would've been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I thought fury/wlad was a dead cert
My point is that it's the HW's and after what happened with the Fury v Wlad fight, although the "Experts" all say AJ, we should understand that anything can happen. One well timed punch changes everything, and nothing should surprise us.
Weights
AJ - 250.1
Wlad - 240.6... Lightest for 8 years.
bit of mindology
might make aj think differently with his approach early on
and I don't reckon Perez will put up much of a fight against Campbell, I reckon it will be fairly short
Perez fucked the weight by 1.3lb... you may be right. Thought Campbell PTS was a bet @2/1, not so much nowQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Two lines of thought here just looking at the weights Wlad's team could be thinking 1. AJ is gunning for a quick KO and Wlad's team have planned to take him in the deep rounds....also it could be that 2. Wlad plans to move more and have AJ give chase meaning Wlad would be looking to counter rather than lead, but we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
A heavyweight fight with both competitors in great shape, there's a positive for the average boxing fan already
I dont know that theres anything to be read into the weights. Wladimir has been on a mission for this fight so a few pounds off is no surprise, I doubt it's for any great tactical reason. If Ross was here he'd say AJ cant possibly go to 250 naturally, he must be on steroids, or boar. I think it's nothing more than him maturing physically.
If there are tactics at play and they are anything like Lyle suggests, it's a ballsy move on Wlads part inviting AJ to come onto him.
Agreed, both in magnificent shape.
When Wlad is 245 or thereabouts he's usually looking for a stoppage earlier or at least his records in fights when he's that weight seem to bare out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
At 240 I'm thinking he's put in a lot more cardio vs lifting weights....maybe it's a plan, maybe it's how he has to train since he's older, I guess we'll find out on Saturday night.
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