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If he's replaced by this Boris, sure why not!
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"During my many years as a journalist I have covered countless protest movements. I witnessed the first stirrings of Iran’s Green Revolution after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s theft of the 2009 presidential election. In 2011 I stood in Tahrir Square in Cairo with tens of thousands of young Egyptians bent on deposing their dictatorial president, Hosni Mubarak. That same year I joined hordes of Libyans as they stormed Bab al-Azizia, Colonel Gaddafi’s Tripoli stronghold. I was in Syria as the popular uprising against the Assad regime gathered pace in 2013.
I know a legitimate protest movement when I see one, and Black Lives Matter certainly qualifies, though it is a shame that a tiny minority played into the hands of its critics by defacing the Cenotaph and Winston Churchill’s statue.
By contrast, those overwhelmingly white, mostly male, shaven-headed, heavily tattooed, bare-chested, big-bellied, beer-guzzling, foul-mouthed, hate-fuelled thugs who gathered in Parliament Square on Saturday afternoon, ostensibly to protect those monuments, emphatically do not qualify. They were a mob – not just a few of them but all of them.
I was there, observing. I watched in disgust as they taunted the police – hurling bottles and beer cans at them, taking close-up videos of their faces, and berating them for their prudent light-touch policing of the previous weekend’s BLM protests. “You’re a fucking embarrassment,” they screamed. “You’re a shower of fucking wankers.” “Treasonous cunts.” “You’re bottle jobs, all of you, letting them do what they want to our statues.”
I watched in disgust as they sought to portray themselves as patriots – wrapping themselves in Union Jacks and St George’s flags, singing “Rule Britannia” and the national anthem, and chanting “In-ger-land, In-ger-land” even as they subverted the traditional British values of tolerance, inclusivity, compassion and moderation. Some wore military berets, England football jerseys or “Help for Heroes” T-shirts.
They chanted “Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson”. They chanted “No surrender”. They chanted “Winston Churchill is one of our own” when, in truth, the man who did so much to defeat the fascism of Nazi Germany would have been appalled by the neo-fascists purportedly protecting his statue.
As I watched those disgraceful scenes unfold, I remembered the warning that Craig Oliver, then Downing Street’s director of communications, gave David Cameron shortly before the prime minister announced the Brexit referendum of 2016: “You may unleash demons of which ye know not...”
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You only hear what you want to hear. The public will reject you. The more you push the more you repel.
I'm asking quite sincerely: Does anyone think that statues of Churchill need to come down? If so why?
I don't want debate as I won't respond with anything but a "thank you for taking the time to respond", I just want opinions but I do ask for you to be as specific as you can.
Of course not. No statue needs to come down. If you are triggered by a statue I suggest mental help. All grievance studies have done is fostered ever more division and unrest and often with people who haven't even grown up yet.
pulling down statues is modern day book burning
RussInCheshire - Designer, Lefty, Feminist , Remainer and wazzock.
Those are his words.
I like the word Wazzock after the other descriptions.
Wazzock of course means - Idiot, Halfwit, Nincompoop, Blockhead, Buffoon, Dunce, Cretin etc.
Sounds like a perfect description of someone from the remainer left.
Bravo Russ.
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Spoken like a kneeling mind controlled servant prostrating themselves to Caesar, Crassus and Pompey. A worshiper at the London, Vatican and Washington Obelisks (Finance, Religion, Military). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Of course there will be some, considering some of the appalling attitudes he expressed and pretty evil things he did, but the majority of people, even on the furthest edges of the left, do not want the Statues of Churchill to be taken down.
That is just a convenient distraction though, and one that people like you, will use to try and discredit any kind of movement to actually better educate people. An education system that has for years been failing so miserably, because of deeply entrenched racist attitudes, that are ironically (considering the censorship claims of the babies espousing them) very anti free speech themselves, needs a long overdue overhaul.
The proliferation of odious revisionists need to stop censoring the uncomfortable truth. You, and many here, are part of a movement for years that have resisted that, and would rather maintain lies that lay out the complete picture.
That the education system has failed in teaching any kind of truthful history is pretty clearly demonstrated by many neanderthal idiots all over this forum, boasting about their ignorance as though it were a badge of honour.
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Of course there will be some, considering some of the appalling attitudes he expressed and pretty evil things he did, but the majority of people, even on the furthest edges of the left, do not want the Statues of Churchill to be taken down.
That is just a convenient distraction though, and one that people like you, will use to try and discredit any kind of movement to actually better educate people. An education system that has for years been failing so miserably, because of deeply entrenched racist attitudes, that are ironically (considering the censorship claims of the babies espousing them) very anti free speech themselves, needs a long overdue overhaul.
The proliferation of odious revisionists need to stop censoring the uncomfortable truth. You, and many here, are part of a movement for years that have resisted that, and would rather maintain lies that lay out the complete picture.
That the education system has failed in teaching any kind of truthful history is pretty clearly demonstrated by many neanderthal idiots all over this forum, boasting about their ignorance as though it were a badge of honour.
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Originally Posted by El KabongThanks for the responseQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Of course there will be some, considering some of the appalling attitudes he expressed and pretty evil things he did, but the majority of people, even on the furthest edges of the left, do not want the Statues of Churchill to be taken down.
That is just a convenient distraction though, and one that people like you, will use to try and discredit any kind of movement to actually better educate people. An education system that has for years been failing so miserably, because of deeply entrenched racist attitudes, that are ironically (considering the censorship claims of the babies espousing them) very anti free speech themselves, needs a long overdue overhaul.
The proliferation of odious revisionists need to stop censoring the uncomfortable truth. You, and many here, are part of a movement for years that have resisted that, and would rather maintain lies that lay out the complete picture.
That the education system has failed in teaching any kind of truthful history is pretty clearly demonstrated by many neanderthal idiots all over this forum, boasting about their ignorance as though it were a badge of honour.
Thanks for trying to distract from the fact that because like you, our idiot Prime Minister has no time for Science when it gets in the way of Capitalism, his two week lock down delay cost thousands of British Citizens their lives.
It is incredibly telling that even now after this and other revelations every day, many people who for years have lied about caring for England, Great Britain etc are still blaming someone who as not elected. Just like your deafening silence when hundreds were arrested after attacking the Police and desecrating the War Memorials they were supposed to be defending.
The 'Data' the 'Facts' are all here in this thread and yet supposed Patriots are all standing idly by as their country, The UK, is sold off to the most corrupt huge corporations and interests of your globalist schill President.
Like you who i presume would have chastised those taking down the statue Of King George in New York. this corrupt Government under Johnson have now suggested that like you they think, statues are more important than living people.
The current sentencing guidelines for most rape cases is a measly and inadequate 5 - 10 years. This Government under Johnson has now suggested that daubing a statue carry at least 10 years.
That is why he has to go.
Yesterday was the four year anniversary of the Death of the MP Jo Cox. A woman killed for her compassion and empathy, by someone who shared many of the same beliefs and attitudes of the racist Johnson, You, Gandalf and many of the extreme no deal fuck Britain over Brexit vandals here.
Johnson should be gone.
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If it has one single thing to do with Johnson and his resigning , yes an American perspective would be interesting. If it is to distract and just further your own polarised myopic 'right at all costs' agenda then kindly
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My perspective is: Why would Johnson resign when you've got a Parliamentary system that holds votes on a whim if no confidence is had in the leader. A demand for resignation comes from political opponents not having the pull to actually do anything against Johnson. Now you personally may not like that, but it's the truth. The Left/Center Left parties have failed to strike upon what the people want and that's why they've lost several elections in a row...they've doubled and tripled down on failed platforms, they've not had successful arguments, they've not sold the people on their vision for the nation. In order to gain political strength they've got to find out what the people actually want that they as a political party(or parties) can offer them that the Tories aren't providing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Say what you will about the Tories, they were smart enough to co-opt Brexit and they were rewarded with votes. Labour could have done the same thing, but they were too focused on being in the EU and attempting to shape how life was going to be as a part of the EU. Labour thought "We're past the point of no return, the voters wouldn't dare overrule us now". They bet on the wrong horse and now they've got precious little political pull when they could have been figuring out what Britain was going to look like on it's own as lead by Labour and the Left.
That's my take, and some of it may very well be incorrect, but that's how I see things.
Churchill, no. It's a fucking mine field though. How lily white does someone need to be to survive the cull? Unless it's a modern statue that sculptors intentionally make look retarded
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Statues tend to be of old fuckers who's thinking was aligned with their times, a million miles from the way people think now. What was Churchills black mark? Saying that the Indians and Aborigines got turned over by a stronger race? That was quite normal thinking back then.
The Colston gesture might seem like quite a grand one. Essentially wiping him off of the landscape. But it isn't really is it. It's a token. The answer to the problems lie far deeper than a few statues and shop signs.
Incidentally I watched John Ruiz box at the Colston Hall in the 90's. If god forbid anyone has erected a statue of Ruiz anywhere in the World, I want it taken down immediately!!
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That's Ronaldo/ Niall Quinn 😂
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Originally Posted by El KabongMy perspective is: Why would Johnson resign when you've got a Parliamentary system that holds votes on a whim if no confidence is had in the leader. A demand for resignation comes from political opponents not having the pull to actually do anything against Johnson. Now you personally may not like that, but it's the truth. The Left/Center Left parties have failed to strike upon what the people want and that's why they've lost several elections in a row...they've doubled and tripled down on failed platforms, they've not had successful arguments, they've not sold the people on their vision for the nation. In order to gain political strength they've got to find out what the people actually want that they as a political party(or parties) can offer them that the Tories aren't providing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Say what you will about the Tories, they were smart enough to co-opt Brexit and they were rewarded with votes. Labour could have done the same thing, but they were too focused on being in the EU and attempting to shape how life was going to be as a part of the EU. Labour thought "We're past the point of no return, the voters wouldn't dare overrule us now". They bet on the wrong horse and now they've got precious little political pull when they could have been figuring out what Britain was going to look like on it's own as lead by Labour and the Left.
That's my take, and some of it may very well be incorrect, but that's how I see things.
A demand for resignation has nothing to do votes of no confidence in a leader or Parliamentary whims. It is there primarily because Johnson broke the law, but there are a myriad reasons why if he had any decency he would resign.
He obviously has no morals or qualms about doing anything to hold on to power, and so it should be taken from his hands. All you are doing is arguing for the dismantling of the UK, so that he can stay, and the globalists criminal oligarchs at the top of the tree can stay exactly where they are, and continue to pick at the bones of what is left from Britain after the elites you have always backed, have profited from its destruction.
Johnson broke the law.
Johnson lied to the Queen.
Johnson dithered and delayed, encouraged the spread of the Coroana Virus and is personally responsible for the deaths of thousands.
He knowingly delayed lock down boasting about the UK being a Superman of Capitalism that did not need to lock down to beat the Corona Virus
Johnson then knowingly sent Corona positive patients back into care homes
Johnson has never taken control or the lead on anything from floods to telling the hospitality sector whether they should close he has ran and hid in a fridge
He hid the numbers of thousands dying for Political gain
He failed to protect thousands of NHS staff by being unable to source any PPE
The list goes on. If you think the bloke has done a decent job you are just burying your head in the sand.
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How lives would have been saved if they had not got slaughtered in the election.
We could have defeated Covid-19 with a leaflet campaign and sat round holding hands singing Kumbaya, while Abbott worked out the sums.
You are a fool for propagandaQuote:
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Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
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Lets face it Al , you are a bit simple.
The majority of those who died in the NHS protecting all of us in this country were people from the BAME community, who you have done nothing but deride for years on this forum. Idiots like you would call those scientists, consultants, doctors and any other expert, a moron, simply because being far cleverer and more compassionate than you, they would have no problem voting for Labour. That is how simplistic and moronic you have always been and will continue to be. Here you are turning a blind eye to Johnson ignoring the experts and insisting on shaking actual patients hands and then boasting about it on TV, purely because you think it weak to admit that the Tories you voted for have treated those voters with barely disguised contempt.
Johnson and the Tories saw people in our parents generation as dispensable and you have the risible cheek to excuse them in order to score political points against someone with no culpability in all this?
You are way more blinded and ignorant than a lot of the religious people you mock.
You sound like someone wearing the T-Shirt Corbyn has on in your Beano cartoon.
"It's Everyone Else's Fault"
You vote for Clowns and you get a Circus.
Only in this case it is a Circus of death.
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Originally Posted by TICYou are a fool for propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpoken like a kneeling mind controlled servant prostrating themselves to Caesar, Crassus and Pompey. A worshiper at the London, Vatican and Washington Obelisks (Finance, Religion, Military). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-cont...rge3statue.jpg
Propaganda?
Stop spreading it then. If you want to virtue signal you wokeness with your pretentious new age mumbo jumbo
"Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail." signature strapline,
then stop mocking people for having the bollocks to get out of their arm chair and do something about the false Idols you are upholding.
You are on the one hand giving all this power to symbolism and telling everyone how you think for yourself and live by your wits like a modern day Rambo, whilst telling everyone to not rock the apple cart lest they get dust on your toffee apple.
You want to make a cake without breaking any eggs or even getting anything but the splashes of your own salty tears on your pinny.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
You see it seems that you and your fellow sheep telling everyone that anti-fascists are worse than fascists will do anything to maintain a fantasy.
Look at you all reading Q fantasies and replaying the same prescribed allowed alt-right approved bullshit that teenagers all over the world believe.
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'? ;D
Changing the world post by post here at Saddo's. Beanz sure has time to kill. You backed the wrong horse old boy. There will be another election in about 4 years or so. I wonder if you will change the world by voting for the same party a 3rd time....or go back to the Green Party. Personally I wouldn't vote Labour or Tory either, but I can no longer vote.
Why don't you run for office Beanz? Posting here or writing fluff pieces has little impact.
In fact the censorship by the scum posing as defenders of free speech here on the forum, is so bad now, that even posting in a thread you started is frowned upon.
They start crying if you criticize a Government that cares more about statues than rape victims and more about the rights of Dogs than the rights of people .
you talk so much bullshit & just make shit up. it is a common tactic of those that are on task. follow your little script. you just go by what the tv tells you to think & you are still so retarded that you think this fake virus is real. all these protests & riots have shown you just how fake it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICYou are a fool for propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpoken like a kneeling mind controlled servant prostrating themselves to Caesar, Crassus and Pompey. A worshiper at the London, Vatican and Washington Obelisks (Finance, Religion, Military). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-cont...rge3statue.jpg
Propaganda?
Stop spreading it then. If you want to virtue signal you wokeness with your pretentious new age mumbo jumbo
"Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail." signature strapline,
then stop mocking people for having the bollocks to get out of their arm chair and do something about the false Idols you are upholding.
You are on the one hand giving all this power to symbolism and telling everyone how you think for yourself and live by your wits like a modern day Rambo, whilst telling everyone to not rock the apple cart lest they get dust on your toffee apple.
You want to make a cake without breaking any eggs or even getting anything but the splashes of your own salty tears on your pinny.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
You see it seems that you and your fellow sheep telling everyone that anti-fascists are worse than fascists will do anything to maintain a fantasy.
Look at you all reading Q fantasies and replaying the same prescribed allowed alt-right approved bullshit that teenagers all over the world believe.
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'? ;D
Quote:
Originally Posted by TICyou talk so much bullshit & just make shit up. it is a common tactic of those that are on task. follow your little script. you just go by what the tv tells you to think & you are still so retarded that you think this fake virus is real. all these protests & riots have shown you just how fake it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICYou are a fool for propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpoken like a kneeling mind controlled servant prostrating themselves to Caesar, Crassus and Pompey. A worshiper at the London, Vatican and Washington Obelisks (Finance, Religion, Military). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-cont...rge3statue.jpg
Propaganda?
Stop spreading it then. If you want to virtue signal you wokeness with your pretentious new age mumbo jumbo
"Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail." signature strapline,
then stop mocking people for having the bollocks to get out of their arm chair and do something about the false Idols you are upholding.
You are on the one hand giving all this power to symbolism and telling everyone how you think for yourself and live by your wits like a modern day Rambo, whilst telling everyone to not rock the apple cart lest they get dust on your toffee apple.
You want to make a cake without breaking any eggs or even getting anything but the splashes of your own salty tears on your pinny.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
You see it seems that you and your fellow sheep telling everyone that anti-fascists are worse than fascists will do anything to maintain a fantasy.
Look at you all reading Q fantasies and replaying the same prescribed allowed alt-right approved bullshit that teenagers all over the world believe.
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'? ;D
I rarely watch TV. Stop squirming and answer the questions
you always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Stop crying. You say you have achieved stuff, so run for office Mr Tidy Room and change the world. Put the Queen in a council flat.Quote:
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more lies. provide proof of your lies that i pretended to be a yank & a brit that i asked for. i don't see any questions, just made up bullshit that you are creating for me. just more lies from you as i have come to expectQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou talk so much bullshit & just make shit up. it is a common tactic of those that are on task. follow your little script. you just go by what the tv tells you to think & you are still so retarded that you think this fake virus is real. all these protests & riots have shown you just how fake it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICYou are a fool for propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpoken like a kneeling mind controlled servant prostrating themselves to Caesar, Crassus and Pompey. A worshiper at the London, Vatican and Washington Obelisks (Finance, Religion, Military). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Start thinking for yourself
https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-cont...rge3statue.jpg
Propaganda?
Stop spreading it then. If you want to virtue signal you wokeness with your pretentious new age mumbo jumbo
"Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail." signature strapline,
then stop mocking people for having the bollocks to get out of their arm chair and do something about the false Idols you are upholding.
You are on the one hand giving all this power to symbolism and telling everyone how you think for yourself and live by your wits like a modern day Rambo, whilst telling everyone to not rock the apple cart lest they get dust on your toffee apple.
You want to make a cake without breaking any eggs or even getting anything but the splashes of your own salty tears on your pinny.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
You see it seems that you and your fellow sheep telling everyone that anti-fascists are worse than fascists will do anything to maintain a fantasy.
Look at you all reading Q fantasies and replaying the same prescribed allowed alt-right approved bullshit that teenagers all over the world believe.
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'? ;D
I rarely watch TV. Stop squirming and answer the questions
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Originally Posted by TICyou always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?Answer the questions.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'?
5 there to start with and one here
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?
i said try to stop fuckstik. not that you can but you try by playing the victim. why would i answer questions from a liar that can't back up his bullshit? provide your proof to back up your lies spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?Answer the questions.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'?
5 there to start with and one here
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?
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Originally Posted by TICi said try to stop fuckstik. not that you can but you try by playing the victim. why would i answer questions from a liar that can't back up his bullshit? provide your proof to back up your lies spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?Answer the questions.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'?
5 there to start with and one here
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?
What kind of proof?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container?
An experiment proving gravity, telling you what myindependent and dependant variables were.
Will they do for a start?
Or am i still a reality denier who has no understanding of science (especially physics) and only have faith and pseudoscience to support my zealot like beliefs?
I mean posting a famous 18th century painting of some Americans pulling down a statue is hardly zealot like beliefs, but you seem to think it is.
One question at a time is fine and you can ask for help if you are struggling .
so you can't provide proof to prove you weren't lying? just the links where you said i pretended to be a yank & a brit. come on spastic. i know you're retarded but you are making yourself look worse nowQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICi said try to stop fuckstik. not that you can but you try by playing the victim. why would i answer questions from a liar that can't back up his bullshit? provide your proof to back up your lies spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by TICyou always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?Answer the questions.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'?
5 there to start with and one here
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?
What kind of proof?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container?
An experiment proving gravity, telling you what myindependent and dependant variables were.
Will they do for a start?
Or am i still a reality denier who has no understanding of science (especially physics) and only have faith and pseudoscience to support my zealot like beliefs?
I mean posting a famous 18th century painting of some Americans pulling down a statue is hardly zealot like beliefs, but you seem to think it is.
One question at a time is fine and you can ask for help if you are struggling .
You do know we've still got plenty of things in America named for Brits and Loyalists right? Still got The Boot monument for BENEDICT ARNOLD most famous traitor ever. As for Civil War stuff you don't understand the healing process that the nation went through ALSO.... Statue(s) of Oliver Cromwell are still up yeah? There's a statue of Charles II up still yeah?
Also when former KKK member Robert Byrd has had 0 things named for him renamed, 0 statues torndown....yeah all this is arbitrary Marxist Critical Theory Iconoclasm.
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Well..duh. Stop judging people by your own all or nothing criteria. Where was i advocating tearing statues down or forbidding them like they are some kind of holy relic ?
You have never admitted nuance or common sense. You are an advocate for the very same blanket brush statements that prove how PC you are, despite insisting everyone else must be the ones wanting to censor everything, simply to avoid adding any complexity into your simplistic model of the world.
And again let TIC answer the questions. You guys are like a soyboy tag team.
beanz i'm not answering anything until you admit you are a fucking lying cowardQuote:
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Well..duh. Stop judging people by your own all or nothing criteria. Where was i advocating tearing statues down or forbidding them like they are some kind of holy relic ?
You have never admitted nuance or common sense. You are an advocate for the very same blanket brush statements that prove how PC you are, despite insisting everyone else must be the ones wanting to censor everything, simply to avoid adding any complexity into your simplistic model of the world.
And again let TIC answer the questions. You guys are like a soyboy tag team.
Proof as in a post from me telling you I want you to die in your home. It was so bad you left the forum. Please show me the evidence as your honesty is frankly too overwhelming.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TICi said try to stop fuckstik. not that you can but you try by playing the victim. why would i answer questions from a liar that can't back up his bullshit? provide your proof to back up your lies spasticQuote:
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Originally Posted by TICyou always try to stop free speech. you'll be one of the first to call it hate speech. i might not like what someone says but i'll defend their freedom to say it. you are a flip flopping spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?Answer the questions.
Were the American who tore down King Georges statue carrying out a modern day book burning?
Should they have bent their knee and just paid their taxes and shut up?
What about the people tearing down Saddam's Statue should they be castigated because you loved his bear mustache?
Or what about the German people who tore down statues of Hitler and Nazi monuments should they be ridiculed as being more fascist than the fascists who actually murdered thousands of people?
So now an 18th Century Painting depicting an actual event is 'Fake News'?
5 there to start with and one here
How is staring a thread with a poll inviting people to comment 'always stopping free speech?'
It isn't is it?
What kind of proof?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier?
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container?
An experiment proving gravity, telling you what myindependent and dependant variables were.
Will they do for a start?
Or am i still a reality denier who has no understanding of science (especially physics) and only have faith and pseudoscience to support my zealot like beliefs?
I mean posting a famous 18th century painting of some Americans pulling down a statue is hardly zealot like beliefs, but you seem to think it is.
One question at a time is fine and you can ask for help if you are struggling .
I am not turning a blind eye to any failings by the elected government, I am saying imagine how bad it would have been if those clowns had been in power.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Lets face it Al , you are a bit simple.
The majority of those who died in the NHS protecting all of us in this country were people from the BAME community, who you have done nothing but deride for years on this forum. Idiots like you would call those scientists, consultants, doctors and any other expert, a moron, simply because being far cleverer and more compassionate than you, they would have no problem voting for Labour. That is how simplistic and moronic you have always been and will continue to be. Here you are turning a blind eye to Johnson ignoring the experts and insisting on shaking actual patients hands and then boasting about it on TV, purely because you think it weak to admit that the Tories you voted for have treated those voters with barely disguised contempt.
Johnson and the Tories saw people in our parents generation as dispensable and you have the risible cheek to excuse them in order to score political points against someone with no culpability in all this?
You are way more blinded and ignorant than a lot of the religious people you mock.
You sound like someone wearing the T-Shirt Corbyn has on in your Beano cartoon.
"It's Everyone Else's Fault"
You vote for Clowns and you get a Circus.
Only in this case it is a Circus of death.
( everybody feels for anyone who has lost loved ones ).
I am sure that will be reflected in the next election.
Simple ? not here my friend.