Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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Haha well that proves it, the biggest Pacfan and the guy who knows least about boxing is supporting u.
Ok Bruce u wanker what are these so called facts and proofs that have been used?
Gee and ive just got support and rep from the likes of ICB, Cutmemick, and CFH. Guys who actually know something about boxing.
Face it your all Pac losers. U turn people away from liking Manny cos your all so dumb.
Haha ;D This is so funny... You're thinking you got the more sensible point because you have the backing of misters so and so ?? And you're very proud to announce it to the whole board / forum that misters so and so positive rep you or supported you... You're funny man... ;D Can't you just back up your point without dragging other names here ?? In the first place, it's you who issued that statement...
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Ok ok.
Pacqiauo consistently weighs in at over 140 lbs on fight night, far hevier than Morales, Barrera, and Marquez do.
Marquez fought for years at 126 and moved up to 130 to fight PAc, so that would suggest he is naturally smaller, as would the fact that Pac looked much bigger and stronger and weighed heavier when he fought at lightweight than Marquez did.
Barrera's best years were arguably at superbantam, and did not move up to 130 until he was at 31. Manny started fighting at 130 aged 26 and at almost 30 he fought at 147 and looked fine doing so. Barrera loks bloated and fat at 135 yet Manny looks ripped and muscular at 140+ which suggests he is a naturally bigger guy.
As for Morales did u even see him fight at 135, he also looked chubby, and did not carry the weight at all well. Yes he is 1.5 inches taller than Pac but his frame is not even close to the size of Manny's and he could never look fit fighting at high 140's like Pac did.
All i have written is true, and the reason i mentioned guys such as Cutmemick, ICB and CFH is that they know enough about boxingto see what i am saying is pretty right, and all your doing is hating on someone who dares suggest anything negative about Pac.
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
Haha ;D This is so funny... You're thinking you got the more sensible point because you have the backing of misters so and so ?? And you're very proud to announce it to the whole board / forum that misters so and so positive rep you or supported you... You're funny man... ;D Can't you just back up your point without dragging other names here ?? In the first place, it's you who issued that statement...
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Ok ok.
Pacqiauo consistently weighs in at over 140 lbs on fight night, far hevier than Morales, Barrera, and Marquez do.
Marquez fought for years at 126 and moved up to 130 to fight PAc, so that would suggest he is naturally smaller, as would the fact that Pac looked much bigger and stronger and weighed heavier when he fought at lightweight than Marquez did.
Barrera's best years were arguably at superbantam, and did not move up to 130 until he was at 31. Manny started fighting at 130 aged 26 and at almost 30 he fought at 147 and looked fine doing so. Barrera loks bloated and fat at 135 yet Manny looks ripped and muscular at 140+ which suggests he is a naturally bigger guy.
As for Morales did u even see him fight at 135, he also looked chubby, and did not carry the weight at all well. Yes he is 1.5 inches taller than Pac but his frame is not even close to the size of Manny's and he could never look fit fighting at high 140's like Pac did.
All i have written is true, and the reason i mentioned guys such as Cutmemick, ICB and CFH is that they know enough about boxingto see what i am saying is pretty right, and all your doing is hating on someone who dares suggest anything negative about Pac.
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the
first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them. I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
Ok ok.
Pacqiauo consistently weighs in at over 140 lbs on fight night, far hevier than Morales, Barrera, and Marquez do.
Marquez fought for years at 126 and moved up to 130 to fight PAc, so that would suggest he is naturally smaller, as would the fact that Pac looked much bigger and stronger and weighed heavier when he fought at lightweight than Marquez did.
Barrera's best years were arguably at superbantam, and did not move up to 130 until he was at 31. Manny started fighting at 130 aged 26 and at almost 30 he fought at 147 and looked fine doing so. Barrera loks bloated and fat at 135 yet Manny looks ripped and muscular at 140+ which suggests he is a naturally bigger guy.
As for Morales did u even see him fight at 135, he also looked chubby, and did not carry the weight at all well. Yes he is 1.5 inches taller than Pac but his frame is not even close to the size of Manny's and he could never look fit fighting at high 140's like Pac did.
All i have written is true, and the reason i mentioned guys such as Cutmemick, ICB and CFH is that they know enough about boxingto see what i am saying is pretty right, and all your doing is hating on someone who dares suggest anything negative about Pac.
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the
first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them. I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
Let's put this to rest... PAC did not enjoy a massive size advantage over those guys... They just fairly matched size-wise...
And even if one boxer does enjoy a massive size advantage, it's the problem of the "smaller" boxer why he accepted to fight that HUGE boxer... We can't complain about it if both boxers agreed to fight...
Cheers... ;)
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Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them. I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
Let's put this to rest... PAC did not enjoy a massive size advantage over those guys... They just fairly matched size-wise...
And even if one boxer does enjoy a massive size advantage, it's the problem of the "smaller" boxer why he accepted to fight that HUGE boxer... We can't complain about it if both boxers agreed to fight...
Cheers... ;)
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Thats fine but only if u promise to criticise anyone who uses Pacs size disadvantage as an excuse if he loses to Hatton or PBF. Not saying he will but it is a distinct possibility.
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them. I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
Let's put this to rest... PAC did not enjoy a massive size advantage over those guys... They just fairly matched size-wise...
And even if one boxer does enjoy a massive size advantage, it's the problem of the "smaller" boxer why he accepted to fight that HUGE boxer... We can't complain about it if both boxers agreed to fight...
Cheers... ;)
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Thats fine but only if u promise to criticise anyone who uses Pacs size disadvantage as an excuse if he loses to Hatton or PBF. Not saying he will but it is a distinct possibility.
To make everything fine:
I promise with all my abilities to criticize anyone who uses size disadvantage as an excuse if their boy loses a fight...
:)
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
Ok ok.
Pacqiauo consistently weighs in at over 140 lbs on fight night, far hevier than Morales, Barrera, and Marquez do.
Marquez fought for years at 126 and moved up to 130 to fight PAc, so that would suggest he is naturally smaller, as would the fact that Pac looked much bigger and stronger and weighed heavier when he fought at lightweight than Marquez did.
Barrera's best years were arguably at superbantam, and did not move up to 130 until he was at 31. Manny started fighting at 130 aged 26 and at almost 30 he fought at 147 and looked fine doing so. Barrera loks bloated and fat at 135 yet Manny looks ripped and muscular at 140+ which suggests he is a naturally bigger guy.
As for Morales did u even see him fight at 135, he also looked chubby, and did not carry the weight at all well. Yes he is 1.5 inches taller than Pac but his frame is not even close to the size of Manny's and he could never look fit fighting at high 140's like Pac did.
All i have written is true, and the reason i mentioned guys such as Cutmemick, ICB and CFH is that they know enough about boxingto see what i am saying is pretty right, and all your doing is hating on someone who dares suggest anything negative about Pac.
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the
first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them.
I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
1st fight between Barrera and Pac at 126..Barrera hit the scales exactly at 126..Pac 125.5..fight night Marco was 134 and Pac was 132..
1st fight between Erik and Pac..Morales was the bigger guy at fight night. Didn't found any stats to back it up but Im pretty sure about it..2nd fight Erik claimed he had weight problems but was still bigger at fight night. 3rd fight..the shocker. After Erik undergone training with this nutrition team called 'Velocity', he made 130 but only added 5 pounds..while Pac at fight night was at 142.(that is according to the HBO team..I remember Steward is stressing that it is a surprise and an odd turn of events.)
I think Pacquiao and Marquez are of the same built.
In boxing..you don't look at the muscles when you categorize their built. you look at their frame..their skeletal structure and the size of the bones. Erik Morales is a tall long and lanky guy who had troubles making the 130 limit because he usually and normally weighs around 160 pounds + or -.
Pac no matter how many weight divisions he has leaped would never be bigger because he is a small guy with very little torso.He adds majority of the weight on his calf muscles (have you heard of how freakish it was) and his back. But he is one small guy. In boxing..the thinner guy is usually the bigger fighter.and the bulky guy..is usually the smaller guy.
and that is all my opinion ;D
Re: If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........
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the_pRoDiGy
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
Ok ok ... ;)
Like I've said, PAC was even considered the "smaller" guy when he fought MAB, Erik and JMM the first time around. PAC was the one going up in weight in those fights and weigh-in weights also indicated that PAC was "smaller" so you can't just really make a sweeping statement that PAC was always the bigger guy and you can't complain that PAC fans don't see any problems with the size difference as you alleged... I really can't recall MAB or JMM or Erik or anyone in their team complaining that PAC is the bigger boxer... I just can't accept your statement... It's is rather more rational to say that PAC, MAB, JMM and Erik were of the same size... No one among the 4 has that massive size advantage...
BTW, I'm not hating you... I'm just being consistent (or insistent) in attacking your point which I don't agree...
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The point im making is that Pac is naturally biger than all those guys, that is fact. Pac was much younger and finds it far easier to shed weight than them.
I bet Pac weighed hevier or atleast as heavy on fight night as any of those opponents, and that is where u gauge real size not on weigh in weights they prove nothing, except show who can cut weight the best
1st fight between Barrera and Pac at 126..Barrera hit the scales exactly at 126..Pac 125.5..fight night Marco was 134 and Pac was 132..
1st fight between Erik and Pac..Morales was the bigger guy at fight night. Didn't found any stats to back it up but Im pretty sure about it..2nd fight Erik claimed he had weight problems but was still bigger at fight night. 3rd fight..the shocker. After Erik undergone training with this nutrition team called 'Velocity', he made 130 but only added 5 pounds..while Pac at fight night was at 142.(that is according to the HBO team..I remember Steward is stressing that it is a surprise and an odd turn of events.)
I think Pacquiao and Marquez are of the same built.
In boxing..you don't look at the muscles when you categorize their built. you look at their frame..their skeletal structure and the size of the bones. Erik Morales is a tall long and lanky guy who had troubles making the 130 limit because he usually and normally weighs around 160 pounds + or -.
Pac no matter how many weight divisions he has leaped would never be bigger because he is a small guy with very little torso.He adds majority of the weight on his calf muscles (have you heard of how freakish it was) and his back. But he is one small guy. In boxing..the thinner guy is usually the bigger fighter.and the bulky guy..is usually the smaller guy.
and that is all my opinion ;D
Morales weighs 160+ because he gets fat. Manny has a bigger frame and is far more muscular than Morales, Morales is taller, not bigger.
The more muscular guy is the bigger guy usually, how could u get it the other way round? Makes no sense.
