Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
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But nobody was asking for hatton to have preferential treatment. Just a fair fight that wasnt broken up the second it appeared ricky was going to work on the inside.
As ive clearly stated all through this thread, the fact we have ny on 100posts 2 years after the event shows there is still huge controversy surrounding this fight.
For all those that do believe this situation is dumbfounded as floyds superior speed would be too much for hatton may i please just ask you again to rewatch the 1st 5rounds up until the deduction so you can see how badly floyd was coping with rickys constant pressure
Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion.
If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
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Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion.
If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
ditto
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floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion. If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
ditto
Word.
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
I can't imagine what has gone on to make this thread last 8 pages.
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
If Joe Cortez had not been the referee, I can guarantee that there would have been another referee. That is all.
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If Joe Cortez had not been the referee, I can guarantee that there would have been another referee. That is all.
I think that is a fair assumption.
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hattonthehammer
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Correct me if im wrong but if i remember clear enough, floyd was actually beating hatton on the inside. Tying him up before he had a chance to do much at all. He got outboxed in every way. I never thought floyd looked like losing, hatton was lunging in alot and getting caught left right and centre. It was only a matter of time until the right punch connected.
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion.
If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
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I have not read any of this thread. Not one single post. But felt it was time to post in it. Thank you.
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
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snakey
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eagle
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hattonthehammer
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion. If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
and if hatton was at any stage holding while punching it would of indeed been illegal
every time they came in floyd just hugged onto hatton for dear life because he knew cortez was straight in to break it up. What he should of been doing is giving them a chance to fight out of the clench which hatton would of adored knowing he could out muscle floyd and land big on the inside.
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If Joe Cortez had not been the referee, I can guarantee that there would have been another referee. That is all.
I think that is a fair assumption.
I always try to get in at least 1 fair post a day. It makes me feel like a man with morals.
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hattonthehammer
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snakey
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eagle
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
and if hatton was at any stage holding while punching it would of indeed been illegal
every time they came in floyd just hugged onto hatton for dear life because he knew cortez was straight in to break it up. What he should of been doing is giving them a chance to fight out of the clench which hatton would of adored knowing he could out muscle floyd and land big on the inside.
Yeah but hattons way of in fighting is wrestling and holding and hitting. He doesnt just stand in the pocket and throw punches, he has to hold and then hit and try and wear the other guy down by wrestling with him.
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I have not read any of this thread. Not one single post. But felt it was time to post in it. Thank you.
You're not missing much.
Re: had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....
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snakey
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eagle
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hattonthehammer
floyd was bossing most of the exchanges largely due to that lightening quick straight right that caught hatton out every time they were within reach of eachother. But hattons gameplan was simple. Tie floyd up on the inside and use your superior power to get your punches off.
Worked a treat against tszyu and castillo but he just simply wasnt allowed to do this and stopped on every occasion. If you dont believe that could you please point out to me a single occasion in the entire fight where the tie-ups between the 2 lasted more than lets say 1 and a half seconds before cortez was jumping straight in
Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D
Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
But Cortez allowed Mayweather to elbow smash, hold, turn his back & duck through the ropes & duck below the waist all he wanted. The Piece de resitance really came when Mayweather turned his back & ducked through the ropes Hatton's punch never touched Mayweather but Cortez deducted a point from Hatton for nothing.
Call Cortez officiating crooked or incompetant your choice I know what my views are
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snakey
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Its boxing not wrestling u obsessed man. It is the referees job to break up fighters when they clinch. You are pretty much saying Cortez refereed badly because he did not allow Hatton to do something that is illegal in boxing. If Ricky's inside game was so godd he should have been able to get shots off without holding.
Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D
Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
But Cortez allowed Mayweather to elbow smash, hold, turn his back & duck through the ropes & duck below the waist all he wanted. The Piece de resitance really came when Mayweather turned his back & ducked through the ropes Hatton's punch never touched Mayweather but Cortez deducted a point from Hatton for nothing.
Call Cortez officiating crooked or incompetant your choice I know what my views are
That;s fair enough but the point is Hatton got KO'd in that fight and it wasn't by an elbow and Joe Cortez definitely didn't KO Hatton, so what the fuck difference does it make? Even if Hatton did establish himself, he got knocked out so there would have been NO difference. Hatton gave a fairly good showing of himself in defeat, it should be left at that.
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Ive been trying to say this but i just dont think ive been saying it right ;D Clinching is illegal and technically holding and hitting is illegal. So cortez is apparently a bad ref for stopping something illegal :-\
But Cortez allowed Mayweather to elbow smash, hold, turn his back & duck through the ropes & duck below the waist all he wanted. The Piece de resitance really came when Mayweather turned his back & ducked through the ropes Hatton's punch never touched Mayweather but Cortez deducted a point from Hatton for nothing.
Call Cortez officiating crooked or incompetant your choice I know what my views are
That;s fair enough but the point is Hatton got KO'd in that fight and it wasn't by an elbow and Joe Cortez definitely didn't KO Hatton, so what the fuck difference does it make? Even if Hatton did establish himself, he got knocked out so there would have been NO difference. Hatton gave a fairly good showing of himself in defeat, it should be left at that.
10 rounds of accumulated frustration and desperation at the way things were being managed might have played just as big a role in the KO as any adaptation in the style of Mayweather. All things considered I don't think Hatton would have been stopped had he been given a fair shake of the dice. But that, as they say, is mere conjecture on my part.
