Pacquiao vs Mayweather who wins?

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

Some lingering questions in my mind:
1. How will PAC penetrate Floyd's defense? I read somewhere here that PBF had trouble with lefties using that Philly shell but PBF can always switch southpaw with that defenseive posture or train for it.
2.How will Manny deal with Floyd's staright right hand? Pac never had trouble with straight right hands with Cotto, Oscar and Hatton because they never had one to begin with.
3.How will Manny deal with Floyd's left hook and jab? knowing that Floyd's going to be the Fastest opponent Pac will ever face.

This are worrying questions for a Pacfan like me, my security blanket as of now for PAC is Pac's ability to take Cotto's Best shots and not get stunned and PAC's ability to drop and stun a big strong welterweight.
So if there's some aspects that I think Manny has an edge is his CHIN, POWER and AWKWARDNESS.

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1. He got tagged all day by Marquez's right, though, and PBF is a lot faster than Marquez.
2. Don't think this applies to Mayweather, tbh, because I don't see Floyd walking onto any of Pac's shots/openly trading with him/being caught flush.
3. Difficult to judge on chin since Mayweather rarely gets caught flush/hard. Power won't even be an issue unless Pac catches PBF flush/coming forward [unlikely]. In terms of Awkwardness, I think you have it the wrong way round: I think Pac is going to struggle to find Mayweather and get very frustrated, causing him to throw himself forward/try to go toe to toe, and get hit over and over with the straight right.

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Don't worry, it will precipitate hard when he's proven correct again.;D

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Don't worry, it will precipitate hard when he's proven correct again.;D

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So you feel that Mayweather is "no[t] special?"

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Im not saying it will happen. but if it happened what does that make him?

if we base it on actual events. this have happened before. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya is suppose to kill Pacquiao?

Its better to avoid comments like that if its Pacquiao fighting.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Don't worry, it will precipitate hard when he's proven correct again.;D

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So you feel that Mayweather is "no[t] special?"

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We will soon find out when he faces Pac.

He has been evading true welters and hopefully we will know why when he fights Pac (who is not, by the way, a true welter but has proven himself very well against a true welter).

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by brucelee

Don't worry, it will precipitate hard when he's proven correct again.;D

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So you feel that Mayweather is "no[t] special?"

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We will soon find out when he faces Pac.

He has been evading true welters and hopefully we will know why when he fights Pac (who is not, by the way, a true welter but has proven himself very well against a true welter).

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Regardless of whether or not PBF beats Pacquaio, he is/was a very special fighter. To say otherwise is ignorance.

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Pacquiao's last 3 opponents was beaten up so bad, that they had to skip the post-fight conference and rush them to the hospital instead.

Trust me. Mayweather is no special. He's gonna get ktfo faster than Cotto or DLH.

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:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Im not saying it will happen. but if it happened what does that make him?

if we base it on actual events. this have happened before. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya is suppose to kill Pacquiao?

Its better to avoid comments like that if its Pacquiao fighting.

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Some people, myself included, picked Pac to beat ODH. Opinions on that fight were far from unanimous.

If Pacquaio beats Mayweather, by stoppage or otherwise, it will be more a reflection of his greatness than of Mayweather's weakness. It will also be by far the biggest and most impressive victory of Pacquiao's impressive career. Of course, to hear some people talk I guess it won't mean much at all considering how overrated/cowardly etc. etc. Mayweather has been accused of being.

Nothing Pacquaio does will change the fact that Mayweather is a very special fighter.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by CFH

So you feel that Mayweather is "no[t] special?"

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We will soon find out when he faces Pac.

He has been evading true welters and hopefully we will know why when he fights Pac (who is not, by the way, a true welter but has proven himself very well against a true welter).

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Regardless of whether or not PBF beats Pacquaio, he is/was a very special fighter. To say otherwise is ignorance.

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In a way he is special because of his skills but personally, he hardly excites me. His fight with Marquez though was awesome but it was already expected. Aside from that, his size did matter a lot against Marquez. He was able to attack Marquez beautifully because (whether you admit it or not), Marquez could not hurt him even with his solid punches.

IMO, Mayweather is not that special because his fights are not thrilling enough for an ignorant like me.

I love how he schooled Baldomir but we all know how sluggish Baldomir was.:-X

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

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Originally Posted by CFH

:rolleyes:

Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Im not saying it will happen. but if it happened what does that make him?

if we base it on actual events. this have happened before. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya is suppose to kill Pacquiao?

Its better to avoid comments like that if its Pacquiao fighting.

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Some people, myself included, picked Pac to beat ODH. Opinions on that fight were far from unanimous.

If Pacquaio beats Mayweather, by stoppage or otherwise, it will be more a reflection of his greatness than of Mayweather's weakness. It will also be by far the biggest and most impressive victory of Pacquiao's impressive career. Of course, to hear some people talk I guess it won't mean much at all considering how overrated/cowardly etc. etc. Mayweather has been accused of being.

Nothing Pacquaio does will change the fact that Mayweather is a very special fighter.

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I agree on that mate. He's special. I even think Floyd beats Pac but we' cant be so sure about pac anymore.

Im sure we can dissect and pick apart pac's victories over Hatton, DLH and Cotto. But people do this only after they've seen those fights. It was even taboo to mention Pac againts DLH.

Pac surpasses the expectations of not just his huggers but also his haters, detractors and even bystanders..

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In a way he is special because of his skills but personally, he hardly excites me. His fight with Marquez though was awesome but it was already expected

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Liking his style or not doesn't mean he is not skillful.

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Aside from that, his size did matter a lot against Marquez. He was able to attack Marquez beautifully because (whether you admit it or not), Marquez could not hurt him even with his solid punches

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Sure, weight does matter just like Pac when he faced ODLH who was so weight-drained that he even ended up weighting less than Pac and went in the ring like a sluggish zombie who didn't throw a punch, agree?

Being thrilling or not doesn't make a guy a good/bad boxer.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Whatever credibility you may have had just evaporated with that statement.

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Im not saying it will happen. but if it happened what does that make him?

if we base it on actual events. this have happened before. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya is suppose to kill Pacquiao?

Its better to avoid comments like that if its Pacquiao fighting.

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Some people, myself included, picked Pac to beat ODH. Opinions on that fight were far from unanimous.

If Pacquaio beats Mayweather, by stoppage or otherwise, it will be more a reflection of his greatness than of Mayweather's weakness. It will also be by far the biggest and most impressive victory of Pacquiao's impressive career. Of course, to hear some people talk I guess it won't mean much at all considering how overrated/cowardly etc. etc. Mayweather has been accused of being.

Nothing Pacquaio does will change the fact that Mayweather is a very special fighter.

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I've literally had to take a break from this forum for a weak because I was sooo close to banging my head on the walls over hearing how overrated Mayweather is, and it's barely an achievement for Pac to beat him..

I still feel for anyone from 159 pounds down, a victory over Mayweather is probably the most prestigious prize in the whole of boxing..

Let alone from a guy who realistically could never have fought above 130 pounds and still been considered and ATG upon retirement..


And very well said, IF Pac wins, it will be a testament entirely to how good he is as a fighter, and nothing to do with any weakness on Floyd's part... He IS the fighter of the 2000's... Period...

He is an incredibly special fighter, and just because his fights aren't explosive fireworks the whole time, it is a technical defensive masterpiece... I have an incredible respect and love of boxing in all it's forms, and I can't see how anyone who has any real appreciation for the sport isn't in total awe of Mayweathers abilities. Even if you feel he could throw more and stand toe to toe a little more (try watching some of his earlier fights if that's what makes a special fighter).

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Originally Posted by Dizaster

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

Im not saying it will happen. but if it happened what does that make him?

if we base it on actual events. this have happened before. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya is suppose to kill Pacquiao?

Its better to avoid comments like that if its Pacquiao fighting.

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Some people, myself included, picked Pac to beat ODH. Opinions on that fight were far from unanimous.

If Pacquaio beats Mayweather, by stoppage or otherwise, it will be more a reflection of his greatness than of Mayweather's weakness. It will also be by far the biggest and most impressive victory of Pacquiao's impressive career. Of course, to hear some people talk I guess it won't mean much at all considering how overrated/cowardly etc. etc. Mayweather has been accused of being.

Nothing Pacquaio does will change the fact that Mayweather is a very special fighter.

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I've literally had to take a break from this forum for a weak because I was sooo close to banging my head on the walls over hearing how overrated Mayweather is, and it's barely an achievement for Pac to beat him..

I still feel for anyone from 159 pounds down, a victory over Mayweather is probably the most prestigious prize in the whole of boxing..

Let alone from a guy who realistically could never have fought above 130 pounds and still been considered and ATG upon retirement..


And very well said, IF Pac wins, it will be a testament entirely to how good he is as a fighter, and nothing to do with any weakness on Floyd's part... He IS the fighter of the 2000's... Period...

He is an incredibly special fighter, and just because his fights aren't explosive fireworks the whole time, it is a technical defensive masterpiece... I have an incredible respect and love of boxing in all it's forms, and I can't see how anyone who has any real appreciation for the sport isn't in total awe of Mayweathers abilities. Even if you feel he could throw more and stand toe to toe a little more (try watching some of his earlier fights if that's what makes a special fighter).

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Good post.

I've just had a week away for the same reason. I've gone away watching Floyd and Pacs fights and have been comparing fighters. My conclusion remains the same though, and that is that Pac seems Tailor made for PBF, who is the greatest fighter since RJJ was in his prime.