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In a way he is special because of his skills but personally, he hardly excites me. His fight with Marquez though was awesome but it was already expected. Aside from that, his size did matter a lot against Marquez. He was able to attack Marquez beautifully because (whether you admit it or not), Marquez could not hurt him even with his solid punches.
IMO, Mayweather is not that special because his fights are not thrilling enough for an ignorant like me.
I love how he schooled Baldomir but we all know how sluggish Baldomir was.![]()
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Some people, myself included, picked Pac to beat ODH. Opinions on that fight were far from unanimous.
If Pacquaio beats Mayweather, by stoppage or otherwise, it will be more a reflection of his greatness than of Mayweather's weakness. It will also be by far the biggest and most impressive victory of Pacquiao's impressive career. Of course, to hear some people talk I guess it won't mean much at all considering how overrated/cowardly etc. etc. Mayweather has been accused of being.
Nothing Pacquaio does will change the fact that Mayweather is a very special fighter.
I agree on that mate. He's special. I even think Floyd beats Pac but we' cant be so sure about pac anymore.
Im sure we can dissect and pick apart pac's victories over Hatton, DLH and Cotto. But people do this only after they've seen those fights. It was even taboo to mention Pac againts DLH.
Pac surpasses the expectations of not just his huggers but also his haters, detractors and even bystanders..
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In a way he is special because of his skills but personally, he hardly excites me. His fight with Marquez though was awesome but it was already expected
Liking his style or not doesn't mean he is not skillful.
Aside from that, his size did matter a lot against Marquez. He was able to attack Marquez beautifully because (whether you admit it or not), Marquez could not hurt him even with his solid punches
Sure, weight does matter just like Pac when he faced ODLH who was so weight-drained that he even ended up weighting less than Pac and went in the ring like a sluggish zombie who didn't throw a punch, agree?
Being thrilling or not doesn't make a guy a good/bad boxer.
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I've literally had to take a break from this forum for a weak because I was sooo close to banging my head on the walls over hearing how overrated Mayweather is, and it's barely an achievement for Pac to beat him..
I still feel for anyone from 159 pounds down, a victory over Mayweather is probably the most prestigious prize in the whole of boxing..
Let alone from a guy who realistically could never have fought above 130 pounds and still been considered and ATG upon retirement..
And very well said, IF Pac wins, it will be a testament entirely to how good he is as a fighter, and nothing to do with any weakness on Floyd's part... He IS the fighter of the 2000's... Period...
He is an incredibly special fighter, and just because his fights aren't explosive fireworks the whole time, it is a technical defensive masterpiece... I have an incredible respect and love of boxing in all it's forms, and I can't see how anyone who has any real appreciation for the sport isn't in total awe of Mayweathers abilities. Even if you feel he could throw more and stand toe to toe a little more (try watching some of his earlier fights if that's what makes a special fighter).
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Good post.
I've just had a week away for the same reason. I've gone away watching Floyd and Pacs fights and have been comparing fighters. My conclusion remains the same though, and that is that Pac seems Tailor made for PBF, who is the greatest fighter since RJJ was in his prime.
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And I don't think there will be lucky to be a single person who changes their opinion in that time of how this fight turns out..
I believe Pac is a fighter capable of something special, but I just believe Mayweather who is a fighter who has special covered and I don't think we've seen him ever pushed to and past his limit,,, that's saying something for what he's bringing into a fight with Pac.. It is a giant mountain for Pac to climb that no one has even seen the top of yet..
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