Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I'm trying mightily to convey something you're somehow not understanding.
Did he cut himself? No.
Did he allow himself to get cut? No.
Was he foolish and reckless in sparring without a headgear and exposing himself to a fight-postponing injury?
Fuck yeah.
I knew you would attract flies with the fence-sitting comment.
Unfortunate choice of words from someone whose opinion I respect.
Nothing contradictory or fence-sitting about my comments, bro.
I invite you to reread them as many times as necessary until it sinks in.
I'll help if needed.
I could be a little daft and missing something. I smoke a fair bit of weed and am over 50. I'm understanding quite nicely I think. David Haye got cut in sparring. I dont know that he was sparring without head gear and even if he was so what? Lots of fighters do and have done this. A week before the fight sure that's ego or something and Murphy then entered the room. But I dont know that he was not wearing head gear unless I missed something.
Why was fence sitting such an insult. You dont believe anything was up but then conclude that there is. Its a Canadian expression. Please dont involve me in the board politics. I'm the same guy I was yesterday and believe that I call it all as I see it. There is nothing personal about this and especially this topic. I have no vested interest in David Haye. He could get hit by a bus Sunday on his way to a photo shoot and existentially I could care less.
Fact is you and others view this as something of ulterior in the motive department and I just think its nutbar to think so.
Fact is..... that is INcorrect.
Ulterior motive implies something intentional.
Reckless and careless behavior is not necessarily intentional.
Asinine? Inconsiderate? Foolish? Par for the course?
Damn straight.
But not necessarily intentional.
It's not like you, IamInuit, to repeat the same opinion several times over, when I've repeatedly shown it to be untrue. :-\
And please spare me the lecture on forum politics, my friend.
I make it my business to avoid confrontations with those I have little respect for.
Or..... to drag other people into my arguments.
Certain phrases, however, are open invitations that I personally do not welcome.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
The only thing you've "shown to be untrue" is that you have the capacity to post objectively about anything.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I'm trying mightily to convey something you're somehow not understanding.
Did he cut himself? No.
Did he allow himself to get cut? No.
Was he foolish and reckless in sparring without a headgear and exposing himself to a fight-postponing injury?
Fuck yeah.
I knew you would attract flies with the fence-sitting comment.
Unfortunate choice of words from someone whose opinion I respect.
Nothing contradictory or fence-sitting about my comments, bro.
I invite you to reread them as many times as necessary until it sinks in.
I'll help if needed.
I could be a little daft and missing something. I smoke a fair bit of weed and am over 50. I'm understanding quite nicely I think. David Haye got cut in sparring. I dont know that he was sparring without head gear and even if he was so what? Lots of fighters do and have done this. A week before the fight sure that's ego or something and Murphy then entered the room. But I dont know that he was not wearing head gear unless I missed something.
Why was fence sitting such an insult. You dont believe anything was up but then conclude that there is. Its a Canadian expression. Please dont involve me in the board politics. I'm the same guy I was yesterday and believe that I call it all as I see it. There is nothing personal about this and especially this topic. I have no vested interest in David Haye. He could get hit by a bus Sunday on his way to a photo shoot and existentially I could care less.
Fact is you and others view this as something of ulterior in the motive department and I just think its nutbar to think so.
Fact is..... that is
INcorrect.
Ulterior motive implies something intentional.
Reckless and careless behavior is not necessarily intentional.
Asinine? Inconsiderate? Foolish? Par for the course?
Damn straight.
But not necessarily intentional.
It's not like you, IamInuit, to repeat the same opinion several times over, when I've repeatedly shown it to be untrue. :-\
And please spare me the lecture on forum politics, my friend.
I make it my business to avoid confrontations with those I have little respect for.
Or..... to drag other people into my arguments.
Certain phrases, however, are open invitations that I personally do not welcome.
Fact is it is correct. Are you going to tell me that generalizations have not been made in this thread or that Hayes personal integrity regardless of the facts as in the cut are being questioned?
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Ulterior motive implies something intentional.
Reckless and careless behavior is not necessarily intentional.
Asinine? Inconsiderate? Foolish? Par for the course?
Damn straight.
But not necessarily intentional.
Semantics. You cant have it both ways. Fact of the matter is, conclusions have been drawn or at least pointed to that because of Hayes past that this is suspect. Now you dont need to hold a doctorate in deductive reasoning to see it. Define intentional. The definition of ulterior is as circular as the thought or act so taking a one word for its definition is more suspect then Haye.
Look man he got cut. Cut above the eye on the front of the skull. Nothing sinister.
End of story and I'm not continuing this.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
The only thing you've "shown to be untrue" is that you have the capacity to post objectively about anything.
I find that to be a very subjective statement.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
Exactly. Suppose Haye had never pulled out of a fight or been hard to negotiate with, never turned in anything less than stellar in the ring. The fact that this isn't the case has DICK ALL to do with what happened here, it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
Note to self: Criticisms of David Haye lead to serious butthurt, denial, and aggresive behavior.
Best to move on to other topics.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
The only thing you've "shown to be untrue" is that you have the capacity to post objectively about anything.
I find that to be a very subjective statement.
You would.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
Exactly. Suppose Haye had never pulled out of a fight or been hard to negotiate with, never turned in anything less than stellar in the ring. The fact that this isn't the case has DICK ALL to do with what happened here, it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
Let's just see what happens next, shall we?
We're getting ahead of ourselves.
If Haye were to heal from his wound, and try to reschedule the fight with Fury..... all is good.
If he comes out of this clamoring for his shot at a Klitschko, well.......
What can I say.
;)
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
Exactly. Suppose Haye had never pulled out of a fight or been hard to negotiate with, never turned in anything less than stellar in the ring. The fact that this isn't the case has DICK ALL to do with what happened here, it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
Let's just see what happens next, shall we?
We're getting ahead of ourselves.
If Haye were to heal from his wound, and try to reschedule the fight with Fury..... all is good.
If he comes out of this clamoring for his shot at a Klitschko, well.......
What can I say.
;)
What I can say, is that like Ross you would rather the second outcome since you personally dislike Haye more than you seem to want to watch a boxing match;)
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Note to self: Criticisms of David Haye lead to serious butthurt, denial, and aggresive behavior.
Best to move on to other topics.
you just a fucking peasant and no one cares
(sigh) Yeah, yeah, yeah..... Al.
I know your kind. You slink quietly in the shadows and then pounce with your timed
"You're a fucking peasant" lines.
My life has no meaning now.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
Exactly. Suppose Haye had never pulled out of a fight or been hard to negotiate with, never turned in anything less than stellar in the ring. The fact that this isn't the case has DICK ALL to do with what happened here, it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
Let's just see what happens next, shall we?
We're getting ahead of ourselves.
If Haye were to heal from his wound, and try to reschedule the fight with Fury..... all is good.
If he comes out of this clamoring for his shot at a Klitschko, well.......
What can I say.
;)
What I can say, is that like Ross you would rather the second outcome since you personally dislike Haye more than you seem to want to watch a boxing match;)
Hey... I wanted to watch Haye-Fury. But it didn't happen, ok?
TBH, (and for the good of all "Haye-fandom").... I'd actually rather the first outcome happen.
And then have a good fight between the two.... and may the best man win.
Hopefully, it would be a great fight and we'd all be happy.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
You'll never be happy unless you are picking a fight over something pedantic or having a moan.
It's either something pedantic OR having a moan..... not both.
Quit your fence-sitting.
Re: Haye v fury postponed!!!!
to sum up Haye has a cut the fight is off.
not really much else to say.