I'll have you know....Jesus was not Italian, Greek, or a womanQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
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I'll have you know....Jesus was not Italian, Greek, or a womanQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
SIR!
I lived in (at the time) apartheid South Africa. I'm half black and half white. It was not a nice experience for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I also lived in the South Side of Chicago and Livernois AV in Detroit for 7 yrs total. I think I know what it's like to live somewhere where people hold you in utter contempt yet total fear at the same time.
It's hateful. And it's horrible to be a victim of that, no matter how "tough" or "clever" you think you are.
True British people aren't like this at all. In fact, true Human Beings aren't like this at all. No matter what colour or religion or how rich they are.
Unfortunately, this brexit vote has certainly brought the worst out of both sides.
Hang tough, it will blow over.
It doesn't seem that bad to me although I'm on the outside. Why should you guys have to listen to a bunch of idiots detached from you. I say jolly good for you guys exiting. You guys have a rich powerful history I e always found fascinating. Knights in armour and castles and Kings were some cool times in history. A lot of us here are enamored with your history. I'm always loved your resolve during world war 2. Even in the rules of war in our revolutionary war you guys won. You took the majority of our major cities and had our army on the run. If we had any other general besides Washington we probably would have submitted. Your Magna Carta was beautiful and had a powerful influence on our constitution. Chin up you guys you have our respect just get rid of corbyn please
If they get rid of Corbyn the country probably has no way back. There will literally be no alternative for a hundred years because of the seat based electoral system. Personally I think that is why the Labour Party is acting crazy right now. They do not want a decent person like Corbyn anywhere near power and if that means destroying the party and ignoring the popular mandate, then they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
You are a decent person, Walrus so I don't understand how you can be against Corbyn. Left and right is irrelevant when it comes to decency.
Damn that whole thing I wrote and you focus on that one sentence. I think my post was interesting corbyn was a mere afterthought I don't like the way the left is going with free speechQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIf they get rid of Corbyn the country probably has no way back. There will literally be no alternative for a hundred years because of the seat based electoral system. Personally I think that is why the Labour Party is acting crazy right now. They do not want a decent person like Corbyn anywhere near power and if that means destroying the party and ignoring the popular mandate, then they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
You are a decent person, Walrus so I don't understand how you can be against Corbyn. Left and right is irrelevant when it comes to decency.
I agreed with all the other stuff, but Corbyn is facing a revolt by a party of careerist Blair clones and I really like him, so I am a bit sensitive about that. I agree that the left needs to give it a rest with all the political correctness. They have lost the debate there. If they would condemn Blair, support Corbyn and get real on border control they would win the next election easily, but they don't seem to want to do that. Strange lot, but then again maybe they are not strange at all when you think about what politics really is. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors and Corbyn is none of that. Just a decent, principled man willing to listen. In that context he is very strange.
I thought after the last general election when Labour lost Scotland, and said they would never work with the SNP, that Labour would be out of power for a generation. Corbyn has tried to skirt that line between centrist MPs and a membership that craves being further to the left. Personally, I would like to see him clear house with the traitors, and if he does and bounces back stronger come the election, I think we'll see many of those brandishing the knives at the moment deselected come the next election. If Corbyn gives in now, I can see Labour splintering into two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I didn't know we had a constitution ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn that whole thing I wrote and you focus on that one sentence. I think my post was interesting corbyn was a mere afterthought I don't like the way the left is going with free speechQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIf they get rid of Corbyn the country probably has no way back. There will literally be no alternative for a hundred years because of the seat based electoral system. Personally I think that is why the Labour Party is acting crazy right now. They do not want a decent person like Corbyn anywhere near power and if that means destroying the party and ignoring the popular mandate, then they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
You are a decent person, Walrus so I don't understand how you can be against Corbyn. Left and right is irrelevant when it comes to decency.
If Corbyn had a shave and wore a tie I'd probably vote for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oxw...E&spfreload=10Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunI thought after the last general election when Labour lost Scotland, and said they would never work with the SNP, that Labour would be out of power for a generation. Corbyn has tried to skirt that line between centrist MPs and a membership that craves being further to the left. Personally, I would like to see him clear house with the traitors, and if he does and bounces back stronger come the election, I think we'll see many of those brandishing the knives at the moment deselected come the next election. If Corbyn gives in now, I can see Labour splintering into two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
In the video above I think you see exactly what has gone wrong with the Blairites. The arguments do not make any sense and Campbell is clearly very out of touch with reality. It's almost a Marie Antoinette moment. I agree that Corbyn should boot them all out and I think he also has a very good chance of winning an election. The media and establishment have lost all connection with reality. In every article now the comments section shows almost no agreement with the article being written. The BS detection is getting good now and the propaganda and fear is having less and less of an effect. People are waking up and I think that's what getting rid of Corbyn is all about. They have to stamp out every scent of a chance as the referendum shows people are not having it any more. The excuses to have a go at Corbyn are lame and the politicians know what they are doing and it isn't because they have principles with all of these resignations. It is phony.
They have been planning this for months.The entire coup situation is a manufactured one and lo and behold Mr Campbell from the video above is one of the key conspirators. The BBC shouldn't even be giving that clown any air time and especially with those pathetic arguments he was trying to put forth.
The truth behind the Labour coup, when it really began and who manufactured it (EXCLUSIVE) | The Canary
It's also very timely that Chilcot is to be reported in less than 2 weeks too. Hmm....timely much?
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
That will be a big help to Corbyn; which is why it looks like the Labour machine is going for a soft left candidate (one of Eagle sisters) rather than a Blairite.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
So you don't believe that Muslims from other nations would jump into France and fight against Le Pen? You believe that if Le Pen was elected France wouldn't explode in violent chaos? You have more faith in the French Muslims than I do.
Oh nice dig at the United States, I and my fellow Americans appreciate you taking the time out of your busy day to make a smart ass remark about our right to own firearms. It's a good thing that guns are illegal in the majority of Europe, it's why there has never been an incident like the Bataclan......that was in the US right? It had to be I mean there were guns and guns = US so we've been lead to believe........I would hate if something like that happened in a country where no one was allowed to defend themselves in a manner which could even the odds in most any situation.
The EU is a bit like what Kaiser Wilhelm II wanted....more real estate for Germany. The German economy calling the shots. Hitler would have loved it, bar the mass unchecked immigration. And SOON 1 European Army....mmmm sounds like good times ;D
No, nobody is going to "jump into France" and fight against the French state. Luckily for us the number of heavily armed religious fundamentalist nutcases over here is so low that all they can do is carry out occasional isolated terrorist attacks, there's no way even in the most paranoid nightmares that there could be any kind of organised uprising of any scale. OK, plenty of paranoid nutcases in the States who think like that but I have to tell you it's just silly.
Lots of beautiful Italian women. Not nearly as many beautiful Greek women and you're talking to somebody who lived there for a year and a half and used to have a holiday home in Italy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterItalians and Greek women are beautiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
But they're all bloody hairy. At the very least a significant minority have moustaches immune to laser treatment and/or arm hair like steel wool.
You've got to hand it to Corbyn. People say politicians never get anything done but in just a year of being leader Corbyn has transformed the Labour party into the Judean Peoples' Popular Front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BpfwazhUA
Splitters.