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Remember when Wilder assaulted a woman in Las Vegas?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...ased-bond.html
Fury has never done anything that low, he's not one to bully women like Wilder!
- Wilder raves on like a lunatic
- Wilder is afraid to fight Joshua and then LIES and says Joshua is avoiding him
- Wilder avoided all the top ten heavyweights for years
- Wilder beats up old faded clubfighters and then celebrates like he's beaten Joshua
How can anyone support Wilder?
I think Wilder is rattled which is why he went into crazy mode. Fury held it together.
One nil to Fury.
I’m getting to the stage where I just cannot see Fury losing.
No idea why...
Wilder looks like a complete fool in that vid. And not even a witty shat talking fool. Even Tyson for all his bluster and blow ups..save for storming cops :-X..had a collected confidence about him. Wilder is the definition of 'talking loud and saying nothing'. Big mouths and big fights can go hand in hand but as suspected when it was signed I think Fury has clowned him a bit and rented a room in his head. Of course, they still have to fight though ;D.
I found it odd how Wilder thought Americans love the British accent and that Fury speaks well. I have a hard time seeing anyone enjoy Fury's accent or voice. He sounds like a 50 year old Northern plumber. What's that weird Anerican thing he tries to put on too? Very strange. Fury gets his phrases jumbled up and that also sounds odd.
Wilder had no reason to lose his cool. He should have just worn a fat suit, made a few oinking noises and pretended to roll out a few lines of coke in front of his mic. Fury is easy to mock really.
I loved the line about being unable to sit down as Fury was indeed the one jumping all about as though he was on something. Wilder sat there. He knows the work is in the ring.
I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.
So people are saying that Fury has lost weight ..... and it is the equivalent of an entire prime Ricky Hatton?
That must be a weigh-in Hatton, not a 'between fights' Hatton, otherwise Tyson Fury would make the bantamweight limit right now ;D
I think both are cringeworthy when they start prattling on about higher power, God and being anointed. It suggests Fury hasn't fully recovered from his mania and that Wilder was a seriously indoctrinated young child. However, in saying that, apart from the cult like leanings, they are both people you could have a pint with.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Let's set the record straight in case anyone had any doubts. Fury can talk Wilder under a table with both hands tied behind his back. Wilder is a horrible talker, and can be had by a trash-talking 5th-grader. This is why Wilder comes across as unhinged, and could very well be frustrated at how Fury gets the best of him at every face-to-face. Howeverrrrrr....... this should not be confused with saying Fury has gotten into Wilder's head. Wilder is NOT Wlad. Repeat..... NOT Wlad. Wlad let Fury get into his head and became timid. He seemed scared that Fury could take him out. He threw 4 punches a round. Wilder is definitely NOT scared of Fury. Frustrated because Fury has made him look like a fool..... absolutely. Having second thoughts about being able to beat Fury? Nah. The only chance Fury has at playing with Wilder's mind is getting Wilder so pissed off he gets even wilder (no pun intended) than usual. That, I can see.
I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.
Settles it for me then, I'm backing FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.
Fury is better at talking smack and I would agree with that. I also think when Wilder does it it seems kind of forced and not really his thing. He has to try and hype a fight and cannot do a Mike Tyson impression well. I don't think he comes across as unhinged at all though, whence me finding it all rather forced. Fury on the other hand likely is a bit unhinged and that's no criticism. I don't really regard it as a verbal competition and find these conferences more pantomime than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.
If you have done the work in the gym and are confident in your abilities then you know in yourself that is likely more than enough, especially if you are undefeated, stay in shape, and have recently proven you can fight when up against it. Fury seems the one more desperate to get under Wilder's skin whilst Wilder has simply let a lot of things slide. For instance, Fury is dressing sharper but it is just hot air really isn't it to make a song and a dance about it? Doesn't matter really and if Fury was so enamored with his clothes why the desperate need to take them all off? Couldn't that wait for the weigh in? Isn't that unhinged? Flouncing about topless at the very end of a press conference?
I hope he is going to shave some of that beard off too as you wouldn't want that rubbing in the eyes. He should have an X marked on it too to add to the pantomime. Fury is all pantomime. The most likely person to be knocked out is Fury. By his own uppercut. Wilder is a bit soft and just doesn't throw out lines that way, but if talking makes you the best then why was Malignaggi never P4P number 1? Words can only take you so far in boxing. In the real world of course it is a different story.
Miles doesn't think Wilder comes across as unhinged.
Well observed Rocco. When Wilder goes down the Broner/Mayweather/Tyson/Taylor route I will concede that he is unhinged. The odd rant about eating an opponent is rather mild all things considered.
Fury - here we have a 6'9 lumbering limbo dancing galoot with average power , he has a good engine but isn't pretty to watch.
Wilder - Fine condition , he lacks the boxing basics , however this drunken Giraffe of a fighter carries Dynamite in either hand.
This is likely to be an awful spectacle for the paying public.
It is a pickem fight for the simple reason that both have padded records bar a few name fighters.
If I had to make a pick , I will go for Wilder via 5 round KO.
By that time of the fight the referee will likely stop the fight , to save the audience from further punishment.
Miles will eventually concede to Wilder being unhinged.
I never concede. I follow them all the way to the asylum pleading their sanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Nearly as big as my bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This is why Wilder mentally cracked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugc3ezFPqek
He was a novice. Not as though he was sparked out or anything. He is not facing Wlad here.
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury: Bronze Bomber gunning for first-round KO of ‘scared’ Gypsy King
The trash talk has intensified with very little time remaining until the big fight
Deontay Wilder has declared he could blast Tyson Fury out of the ring in one round on Saturday night.
The WBC champion disposed of mandatory challenger Bermane Stiverne within three dramatic minutes little over a year ago, and believes his upcoming bout could play out in similar fashion.
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“I’m definitely – the way I’m feeling – I could see a first round knockout,” Wilder told ThaBoxingVoice when asked about his heated demeanour on fight week.
“This guy is scared, Tyson Fury is scared. I know fear.
“It’s certain ways you look, certain ways with your eye contract, certain ways with your facial expressions. Even certain things that you said.
“I’ve been in a lot of situations in my lifetime, I’ve been a lot of fights too, I know what fear looks like.
“I know what fear looks like, I can sense it. Just like a dog can smell fear, we can do the same thing too.”
Deontay Wilder sympathises with his opponent however, and thinks it’s understandable that he should fear him due to his explosive punching power.
The American is 40-0 with 39 KOs, having rematched the only person he beat by decision (Stiverne) and then blitzed him too.
“Why would he not be scared?” Wilder continued, “I’m a 98 per cent knockout ratio, he‘s only 70 per cent.
“He’s never been in the ring with someone of my calibre. Every fight he’s been in has been a boring fight.
“The only fight that was exciting was seeing him getting dropped by Steve Cunningham, a cruiserweight.
“With me, I’m a natural killer. I have a natural killer instinct in the ring.
“I’ve knocked out every fighter in the ring, that right there speaks volumes.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...und-ko-scared/
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury: British contender Anthony Yarde has last-minute fight announced for undercard
The light-heavyweight will return to action on the December 1 show
Anthony Yarde will face Israel Duffus on the undercard of Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury this Saturday.
The British light-heavyweight contender is looking to move to 18-0, having already won his first 17 contests, 16 by knockout.
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Yarde has come in for criticism in some spaces regarding the lack of testing opposition he has faced him in his professional career thus far – and his latest foe will do nothing to change that.
However. it is acknowledged that the Londoner had limited amateur experience and so is very much learning on the job.
26-year-old Duffus is a Panamanian boxer who has 19 wins and five losses on his record. He was last seen in a unanimous decision defeat to Charles Foster on November 18.
https://twitter.com/AssassinBoxing/s...365835/photo/1
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...anthony-yarde/
SOOOOO MUUUUCH TALKING.....I mean I get it, the fighters have mics shoved in their faces and the media want soundbites, the fans want drama, but holy shit it drives me nuts as a fan sometimes because we'll hear all this talking and then post fight "Oh I didn't win because I have a broken pinky toe" :vd: or some other bullshit excuse for why the fight wasn't a slugfest or KO as they predicted.
The mind games that are played are pointless IMO...you want to get in a fighter's head? Well if you don't do it right you COULD get them completely focused, you COULD reveal your own gameplan and they'll just be ready for that and use it against you, you COULD inspire your foe to victory with bulletin board material.
My point is that talking so much shit it reaches a point of diminishing returns...it is not exciting as a fan when 100% of everyone is all "I'm going to kill that guy!", yes yes we know, everyone else says that shit too the winners AND the losers.
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury: Gypsy King claims his brother scared Wilder’s brother off during press conference fight
The Brit has reflected on the antics of fight week
Tyson Fury has revealed what happened between his brother and Deontay Wilder’s brother during their final press conference clash.
The challenger has apologised on both his and the American’s behalf for the scuffle, which ended with him standing shirtless after a heated head-to-head.
“Deontay Wilder’s obviously nervous and rattled and he felt like he had the need to get in my face,” explained Fury to a group of reporters.
“He’s lucky I didn’t take his teeth out, he got right up close to me in my face, I could smell his breath. I could feel the spit coming out of his mouth when he was screaming and ranting about rubbish.
“I was [cool], but I was thinking about hitting him with a left hook and head-butting him, but I thought, ‘That’s what he wants me to do, to get out of the fight.’”
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
The pair ended up separated as things began to boil over, preventing any serious damage, however – unbeknownst to many – there was a second fight going on in the background.
Tyson Fury’s brother, Shane, can be seen ditching the crutches he is currently walking on to jump into the action, apparently pursuing Deontay Wilder’s brother who was also on stage.
“It would have went off,” Fury continued, “Because he had his few boys yeah, but they’re not serious.
“I had my family there and we would have done them right in, there and then.
“Wilder’s brother gave it a big ’un. He was screaming and shouting trying to get forward.
“My brother throws two punches at him and he ran away.
“This is a serious thing to us. It isn’t playtime, we’re not there to act. This is it.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...ference-fight/
Wilder v Fury predictions: George Foreman believes the American to win but boxing greats are split
Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury
Venue: Staples Center, Los Angeles Date: Saturday, 1 December (local) Time: From 04:00 GMT on Sunday, 2 December
Coverage: Live commentary on BBC Radio 5 live and live text commentary on the BBC Sport website and app
Two-time world heavyweight champion George Foreman believes Deontay Wilder will overcome Tyson Fury in a bout which has divided some of boxing's biggest names.
Wilder, 33, will put his WBC heavyweight title on the line at Los Angeles' Staples Center on Saturday - roughly 04:30 GMT on Sunday in the UK.
Many pundits see Fury's best chance being a points win, with Wilder posing the greater threat of a knockout.
"I can see Fury going 12 rounds with Wilder because of his height and reach," said Foreman. "I think Wilder wins a close decision."
Who do you think will win? Send your predictions to #bbcboxing.
Former world middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders has shared footage of himself apparently staking £70,000 on 30-year-old Fury in the bout, which will be broadcast on BBC Radio 5 live.
The bout has split experts on whether Fury - in just his third fight since returning to the sport having battled depression and served a backdated doping ban during more than two and a half years away - can inflict a first defeat of Wilder's career.
Two-time heavyweight champion Mike Tyson said: "Although Wilder's punch is strong, nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring. It'll be a close call, but I think Fury's got a true fighting chance."
Events during fight week included Fury and Wilder clashing at a heated news conference. The incident only served to add further intensity to a contest which has been billed as the biggest heavyweight bout on US soil since Lennox Lewis overcame Vitali Klitschko at the same venue in 2003.
"If it goes the distance then it belongs to Tyson Fury," said Lewis. "If it's a short fight it will belong to Deontay Wilder. This is an epic and most unpredictable showdown. I can't wait for this fight."
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Wilder boasts 39 knockouts from his 40 wins and Fury, who has won all 27 of his professional contests, has stated his opponent is possibly the hardest punching heavyweight of all time.
Those backing the American say that while public perception may focus on an occasionally erratic technique, there is no fighter better at closing out a bout when they have their opponent hurt.
His last opponent, Cuba's Luis Ortiz, said: "It's all up to Wilder. If Fury decides he wants to come to the middle of the ring and fight, then it's going to be over quick. Wilder is going to catch him. Prediction: Wilder by KO."
Riddick Bowe, who held world titles at heavyweight between 1992 and 1995, expects Wilder to win with "ease" via a knockout.
And former US heavyweight Gerry Cooney warned Fury he is "barking up the wrong tree" in facing Wilder, describing the American as "a different kind of beast" who will win "inside four or five rounds".
'This is not boxer v KO artist' - analysis
It has to be a fluid boxing, skilful, tactical Tyson Fury if he is to win. However, and this is something people ignore, what if Wilder wants to jab and not commit? Tyson Fury is committed to Wilder over-committing. What if Wilder doesn't play ball? What if he thinks 'I'll throw some jabs and not chase him?' That's interesting.
This is not fighter v puncher, boxer v KO artist. It is far more.
BBC boxing correspondent Mike Costello
This theme that Wilder can't box - look back 10 years ago and he won bronze at the Olympic Games. He reached the semi-finals three years after taking up the sport. He lost to an Italian who in the previous round had beaten Oleksandr Usyk, a man who graced us with a superb display against Tony Bellew this month.
You can't compile that form if you are just a slugger.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/46385554
Weigh-in will start soon.
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Tyson Fury 256 & 1/2
Deontay Wilder 212 & 1/2
I'd imagine Wilder is lighter than normal because he's looking for endurance and going deep in the fight....Fury is a bit heavy, maybe he's coming to drop bombs and try to chin Deontay.
Who knows :dontknow:
So no one cares? :-\
21 pages, the weigh in, final face to face.......nothin?
No final predictions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcUFvbcWCw
What the fuck was that mask all about ?
Fury looks ten years younger today
Wilder is not a super heavyweight. He is only 212. That’s crazy. He’s probably not any heavier than many cruiserweights. I wonder if he could sweat down another 12 pounds.
I’m just not into most talking anymore because it’s so fabricated. I feel that most people talk a ton of trash and then lose and contratulate their opponents and act like friends. If you like each other then you don’t have to talk trash. If you really hate each other then it’s entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He always wears the mask...I don't know I don't read too much into itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Shaving the beard and shedding a few dozen pounds will do that
Deontay is pretty damned skinny....he's like a heavyweight Tommy Hearns or Paul Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Do you fellas think their weights impact their strategies?
I think it may be as simple as what they're comfortable at. No obscure strategies.... no hidden weight-related tactics. That's the uniqueness about the HW division. It's open-ended. Deontay as Lyle said is a skinny HW, much like a HW Tommy Hearns. Fury like putting on the weight. Yes, he may feel he can use it to surprise Deontay with power but it's probably Fury just settling in to where he feels comfortable. He's a big man, and out of boxing he'll probably balloon up to the mid 300's for sure. Fascinating this size difference. It's not like one's tall and the other short. More like skinny versus borderline fat. Crossing my fingers it'll live up to the hype. Actually hoping it exceeds it, because many boxing insiders don't expect much.
Wilder is a stone too light, Fury is half a stone too heavy.
This will end with the referee making a controversial stoppage , jumping in as Wilder’s arms are flailing and hardly any of the shots will be connecting. Fury will go mental cos he isn’t hurt, all hell will let loose with Fury’s mob in the ring and there will be a rematch.
All of this because they both don’t really want Joshua , and a rematch will drive up the final winner’s share of the purse with AJ.
I think Wilder is trying to match speed with speed...Fury does have an awkward style, but Wilder ain't gun shy.
I just want to see some action