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Yes, I accuse you of defending Tories all the time. You do realize that it is the ever reasonable and lucid you who constantly accuses me of being a Tory and more than once compared me to Rees Mogg whose father we should all read the 'reviews' of a book? But as you were. I have no recollection of ever comparing you to or calling you a Tory. If you are going to reference someone it should at least have some connection with reality.
Brexit is all about saving the tory party and maintaining Eton privelege. You have repeatedly defended Rees-Mogg one of the key hardliners pushing for the Victorian England you pine for. Where women knew their place, and the poor were put into workhouses. You have several pensions and then accuse civil servants of being on the gravy train. My 10yrs+ civil service pension is worth £6.47 a year ...;D
Meanwhile you are buying Gold stocks and regaling us all with tales of the breadline and having to get on a bus with us commoners.
I don't have to make anything up you sold out years ago and you see Tommy as your last chance to pretend you give a shit about England.
Virtue signalling fake patriotism from a greedy bastard.... and Rees Mogg is not much better.
Gold stocks. Nah you should buy physical gold.
It never goes up regardless. Bitcoin is coming back. Seemingly. I just want a big crash because.....I hate the world! :D
https://www.rt.com/uk/418116-brexit-rees-mogg-money/
Someone will always make money somewhere. So, because some people have invested a certain way a long time ago, Brexit must never happen. That makes sense! :appl:
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I was defending the people in that community not Tommy Robinson. The innocent victims attacked by a ranting and raving mob. The people you seem to have judged without knowing what their thoughts or feelings were?
Frankly i'm glad you didn't just pluck something out the air? Feel free to explain your expertise in hooliganism? Facebook meetings? And Policing?
I know you are not defending Robinson. It is his narrative that is full of shit and people are eager to buy it. Doesn't mean he never tells the truth. I am not attacking anyone just the idea that all the people on Robinsons side were innocent bystanders. There are a huge percentage there to kick off.
I am not an expert in hooliganism but I have known a few guys who part of that scene (thankfully ecstasy and the rave scene changed them) and been at matches home and away in the thick of it (not by design) when it kicks off. I then saw it from the other side reviewing evidence etc for the Prosecution and the Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Happens most weekends all over the country. Could not see them escorting anyone in either video though. I may be mistaken and have missed it but it seems Tommys defenders just made that bit up.
There is a reporter there at the beginning and Tommy has been urging his thugs to attack them for a while now. I would never bring my kids and grandkids to an event like that but Tommies mob did knowing what would happen. It is not just those in the estate.
I never said everyone with Robinson was innocent, clearly many of his supporters reveled in it and enjoyed themselves.
However, the only person "making things up" to suit a narrative is you. No, sorry, maybe you truly believe the muslim mob had every right to violently attack that community? Or you truly believe all the people in that area were prepared and ready for the "planned" attack.
The point is the trouble was started by a mob TRAVELLING to an area they didn't
live, facilitated by the police. It wasn't a barren industrial estate it was peoples
homes. But it doesn't matter as being poor white people they are all evil, nasty racist Robinson supporters.
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Police will escort known thugs thru a city in order to deter trouble. Exactly! The police prevent mass punchups not encourage them. That is exactly the same as my own experience of football matches.
Where did i say it was OK for anyone to attack anyone? Where did I say all Robinson supporters where evil nasty and racist let alone all the white people on the estate? Why would I say something like that? :-\
Where is this footage of the Police escorting the Asian mob to Tommies love in ?
Not just that but apparently you are now suggesting that the Police are also responsible for encouraging and facilitating the violence.
Please do not assume that I use the same broad brush bullshit Robinsons defenders have for several years now with their campaign of lies here on the forum. You have now started inventing a position for me to inhabit in order to destroy an argument i have never made. To be quite frank the anti-white thing is not a good look for anyone using it to avoid discussing the uncomfortable truth.
I am not the one starting hundreds of threads claiming Asians, black people, non-christians, gays, the disabled or any other minority group are being victimized so the fact that anyone gets the idea I am anti-white or anti-working class etc is purely down down to a concerted effort by others who seem to have little to no experience of working class white culture, who spend their time being condescending pricks to the very group they claim to be defending.
The footage of the police leading the mob to the street Robinson and the families were in is posted in this thread, just like the other footage you failed to see of the "innocent milk shake bystander" ranting and raving in his face multiple times before splatting him, no, all you see is Tommy's thugs holding him down so Tommy can beat him (:D).
I don't care about Tommy Robinson, what anyone on the forum thinks of you or your own personal battle to rid the world of evil "baddies." That is not the point.
My only interest has been about fake reporting and double standards. I comment on individual cases.
When someone is in the wrong I won't pretend otherwise just because I don't like their ideas, beliefs, politics. Even if the police used tactics to round everyone up, it's still a liberty to allow a mob to have a riot on a council estate. That's all.
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Yes, I accuse you of defending Tories all the time. You do realize that it is the ever reasonable and lucid you who constantly accuses me of being a Tory and more than once compared me to Rees Mogg whose father we should all read the 'reviews' of a book? But as you were. I have no recollection of ever comparing you to or calling you a Tory. If you are going to reference someone it should at least have some connection with reality.
Brexit is all about saving the tory party and maintaining Eton privelege. You have repeatedly defended Rees-Mogg one of the key hardliners pushing for the Victorian England you pine for. Where women knew their place, and the poor were put into workhouses. You have several pensions and then accuse civil servants of being on the gravy train. My 10yrs+ civil service pension is worth £6.47 a year ...;D
Meanwhile you are buying Gold stocks and regaling us all with tales of the breadline and having to get on a bus with us commoners.
I don't have to make anything up you sold out years ago and you see Tommy as your last chance to pretend you give a shit about England.
Virtue signalling fake patriotism from a greedy bastard.... and Rees Mogg is not much better.
Gold stocks. Nah you should buy physical gold.
It never goes up regardless. Bitcoin is coming back. Seemingly. I just want a big crash because.....I hate the world! :D
https://www.rt.com/uk/418116-brexit-rees-mogg-money/
Someone will always make money somewhere. So, because some people have invested a certain way a long time ago, Brexit must never happen. That makes sense! :appl:
Stop making stuff up. I have never said Brexit must never happen go back to the Brexit or any other thread and show me where I said any such thing.
I am just not as wet and naive as you are to have bought into the narratives of Robinson or Farrage, Mogg etc and their horrendous suggestion that they represent the British people. It has always been about power, celebrity and primarily the fattening of their bank accounts.
You have helped sustain this narrative because it is a convinient way to justify and legitamize your own poisonous bigotry and you care little that you are helping the Tories distract and obsfucate their own role in selling off, dividing and breaking Britain.
It matters not to you that you embolden violence against the poor and the vulnerable because you detest and envy the immigrants that have managed to invest in and make a success of their lives in a country you abandoned and gave up on years ago.
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Yes, I accuse you of defending Tories all the time. You do realize that it is the ever reasonable and lucid you who constantly accuses me of being a Tory and more than once compared me to Rees Mogg whose father we should all read the 'reviews' of a book? But as you were. I have no recollection of ever comparing you to or calling you a Tory. If you are going to reference someone it should at least have some connection with reality.
Brexit is all about saving the tory party and maintaining Eton privelege. You have repeatedly defended Rees-Mogg one of the key hardliners pushing for the Victorian England you pine for. Where women knew their place, and the poor were put into workhouses. You have several pensions and then accuse civil servants of being on the gravy train. My 10yrs+ civil service pension is worth £6.47 a year ...;D
Meanwhile you are buying Gold stocks and regaling us all with tales of the breadline and having to get on a bus with us commoners.
I don't have to make anything up you sold out years ago and you see Tommy as your last chance to pretend you give a shit about England.
Virtue signalling fake patriotism from a greedy bastard.... and Rees Mogg is not much better.
Gold stocks. Nah you should buy physical gold.
It never goes up regardless. Bitcoin is coming back. Seemingly. I just want a big crash because.....I hate the world! :D
https://www.rt.com/uk/418116-brexit-rees-mogg-money/
Someone will always make money somewhere. So, because some people have invested a certain way a long time ago, Brexit must never happen. That makes sense! :appl:
Stop making stuff up. I have never said Brexit must never happen go back to the Brexit or any other thread and show me where I said any such thing.
I am just not as wet and naive as you are to have bought into the narratives of Robinson or Farrage, Mogg etc and their horrendous suggestion that they represent the British people. It has always been about power, celebrity and primarily the fattening of their bank accounts.
You have helped sustain this narrative because it is a convinient way to justify and legitamize your own poisonous bigotry and you care little that you are helping the Tories distract and obsfucate their own role in selling off, dividing and breaking Britain.
It matters not to you that you embolden violence against the poor and the vulnerable because you detest and envy the immigrants that have managed to invest in and make a success of their lives in a country you abandoned and gave up on years ago.
Unbelievable. He is back at it. Poisonous bigotry now? Where do you come up with these things. I swear you have a manual 'Entitled: The Contemporary Lefty Guide to Being Completely Weird'. Who am I bigoted against? I have said that I have nothing against the people of Europe. It is you making sweeping and racist generalisations about Asian countries you have NEVER been to. You live in a 96% white town, whilst I spent my last years there in a city that was 66% white. I lived with a black person, a gay person, and knew black and gay people and people from different countries, but none of that has anything to do with me believing a country has a right to self determination. You can make up my motivations and force your ridiculous beliefs on me, but it is false. I have always said that it is about border control and self determination.
Britain has ALREADY been sold off and divided. The EU didn't stop the mail service going or the continued privatisation of the NHS. In fact open borders only makes it more difficult for public services to function. Tens of millions on translation services alone. English is the global language, so that is an absurdity for a start.
Why would I detest or even envy migrants who have made a life for themselves? You do realize that I have done just that myself too. Again, this is all pure projection and bile. It is no wonder you didn't debate Sargon as you cannot reason, you just make false accusations. As I said to you privately, someone from the EU in the UK, can likely stay, but based upon contribution to the economy and a clean record. A visa based system sounds fair and is how most countries do it. Do you know anything about visa processes or even types of visa or the types of systems around the world? Maybe you should learn a few things. Nobody is stopping them applying to become a British citizen either. :-\
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They are British citizens. Does not stop them noticing the rise in racist attitudes towards them every day after the referendum. An attitude you encourage and endorse with you framing even words like 'European' or 'Migrant' as enough to paint those using them as an enemy of England.
Sick.
Apparently being born in England and both my parents being English and born in England is not enough for me to qualify as being English in your new pro racist post Brexit utopia.
You are obssesed with race and immigration. Black peoples IQ level, what you call the promotion of homosexuality... You sound like a ranting religious Ulster unionist extremist ffs.
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They are British citizens. Does not stop them noticing the rise in racist attitudes towards them every day after the referendum. An attitude you encourage and endorse with you framing even words like 'European' or 'Migrant' as enough to paint those using them as an enemy of England.
Sick.
Apparently being born in England and both my parents being English and born in England is not enough for me to qualify as being English in your new pro racist post Brexit utopia.
You are obssesed with race and immigration. Black peoples IQ level, what you call the promotion of homosexuality... You sound like a ranting religious Ulster unionist extremist ffs.
If you are British then you are British. So, what are you complaining about? They can stay then, right?
The problem is too much immigration and that does have an effect. It is one reason I am an immigrant who is anti-open borders. I don't want the hassle that comes from letting in those that follow in massive numbers. It does lead to social conflict and it is understandable. That is the fault of Labour and Tory. They are suffering because of mass immigration policies and that is indeed a shame.
You do have a way of warping and shaping things though. You are English but wanting to be part of the EU means you respect a higher authority than the British one. That's not British. In that sense I do suggest living somewhere in the EU instead if that is what you prefer.
The majority of the British people do not prefer that, so it is you with the problem there. I find it strange that you would prefer a system akin to a Soviet Parliament.
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Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.
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Surely he slipped. :-X
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Surely he slipped. :-X
Yeah hilarious isn't it ? An old man who gives a shit about the planet is thrown to the floor by one of your crew and you fall about laughing. A young thug with multiple convictions gets a milkshake thrown at him and you burst out crying. An elected MP is killed by one of your crew shouting Brexit and the silence is deafening.
This is why your fake outrage is so meaningless.
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Surely he slipped. :-X
Yeah hilarious isn't it ? An old man who gives a shit about the planet is thrown to the floor by one of your crew and you fall about laughing. A young thug with multiple convictions gets a milkshake thrown at him and you burst out crying. An elected MP is killed by one of your crew shouting Brexit and the silence is deafening.
This is why your fake outrage is so meaningless.
Your response is meaningless. It was obviously a basic play on the media response. Unlike you I geninely do not endorse violence. As I constantly say, you have no actual ability to read a poster.
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.... I'm saying he's not your typical politician
No he is a foot soldier for the same deep state Zionists that seek to keep the middle east at war and personally profit from the demise of Great Britain in a vain attempt to preserve and resurrect the Empire.
So he's simultaneously trying to preserve and resurrect the Empire AND personally profiting from it's demise?
That's special.
Think what you want of him. The fact is he wouldn't have any following at all if A) Concern for the direction of the nation wasn't an issue and B ) people didn't feel like they were being sold out and the ENEMY (see Al Qaeda, ISIS, & grooming gangs all of whom are special and different) was being handed the keys to the country.
You don't help your side of the argument by denying the shady shit the government has done/is doing. There are people who like and follow Tommy not because of his past but because of their own personal experiences and they aren't all hate filled racists or fascists or ultra-nationalists. But that's my view of things so take it or leave it.
I have not asked either you or anyone else to repeatedly answer long sets of numbered questions like you are on trial. I have been way more accommodating than either of you in indulging you both and have pointed you towards facts and evidence you continually choose to ignore. You are both clinging to a set script and repeating with astonishing naivety the same old rhetoric in the face of overwhelming evidence that you obviously have an agenda that cares little for facts, democracy or the views and rights of British people.
A) Concern for the direction of the nation is not something that an American and an expat in South Korea are in a position to dictate to British people in an attempt to synergise your own very specialist concerns with projections onto a country whose problems are not yours. There is just as much, if not more concern in the country being pointed toward an American model of huge disparity between the working man and the super rich personified in a President as privileged and stupid as those who seek to lead Britain into the shadow of your corporate republic. A republic headed by a corrupt, bent , narcissist who like May and the Tories is more interested and in love with the trappings of power and the sound of his own voice than the privilege of leading a country and making ordinary people's lives better. You don't want to hear it because you quite clearly are more interested in political point scoring and buying into the same neo liberal whitewash that allows people at the top to stay at the top, all for the worship of the individual and money. Celebrity culture which Tommy and Carl and PJW , Farrage, Boris and Trump etc are all figureheads of.
B) If you seek out evil you will find it everywhere. You and I are both from countries that not only helped create and fund Isis (The USA along with the UK) by supporting and continuing to support Wahhabism and prop up and arm the Saudis, but have also abandoned the brave men and mostly women who defeated ISIS. Of course you would like to continue a narrative that buries this inconvenient fact and pretends that those supporting these wars and their part in maintaining and sustaining the profit margins of the UK and USA with the blood of innocents, are the real victims. But we both know that is not true.
Mossad supporting Tommy is not a victim. Tommy supported by The Middle East Forum etc is not a victim. When the victims he uses, actual victims of rape , violence and abuse want nothing to do with him it might be time to stop pretending he is the victim.
And don't you ever,even for one second ever pretend that I have pretended that politicians in and out of Government are incapable of 'shady shit' . Not when every day you maintain the charade of Trump being a shining example of transparency, honesty and morals. Why would I ever defend a Tory government or the New Labour one that preceded it? That is you and Gandalf and all you and you investment and Hyper Capitalists Neo Liberal crew. It has fuck all to do with me. And stop pretending that you would ever allow anyone to have another opinion of Robinson when you are part of a movement here that has repeatedly lied about him for years now i order to create a fantasy.
Read the Amazon reviews of the book
Blood in the Streets: Investment Profits in a World gone Mad.
Written by Rees Mogg's Father and you will see why Jacob and Nigel and Banks and Trump and Wheeler and Rebel Media and The Middle east Forum and ALex Jones and Bannon and Tommy are all on the same side. A side that seeks to destroy lives and countries for personal profits . So save the moralising and the pretense that any of these people give a shit about British or American workers let alone Free Speech.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Stree.../dp/067162735X
I've explained several times that my numbering is to help myself (and others) stay organized in responses. So we don't have any unfortunate miscommunications. Secondly I asked those questions to attempt to understand how you came to think as you have. Oh you're more accommodating to me than I am to you? Ok then...
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Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.
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Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.
why does everyone hate him
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Re: Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had profited from both significant support from foreign donors and crowdfunding from individual donors around the world. The Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank, said it had spent roughly $60,000 (£48,000) on “Free Tommy” demonstrations in London last year.
In a media interview during his failed campaign to be elected as a member of the European parliament, Robinson suggested the MEF had paid £78,000 in legal fees for his ongoing contempt of court case, but the think tank has not confirmed the sum.
Robinson was also a beneficiary of a “fellowship” from US tech billionaire Robert Shillman that bolstered his salary from Canadian website Rebel Media, where he worked from early 2017 until February last year.
Robinson has also sought funding from Israeli backers and visited the country.
In a leaked video where he boasted about scoring drugs, Robinson claimed to have spoken to Benjamin Netanyahu, adding: “I got my Zionist card out and said I am a Zionist and I bought us everything. Shalom motherf***er.”
Earlier this month, he posted a photo on his Telegram channel wearing a hat emblazoned with the Israeli flag with the caption: “I need your shekels.”
Robinson has continued to ask for donations from British supporters by claiming money was needed for causes including his MEP campaign, a bus, protests, security and legal claims.
He received almost £20,000 of donations in Bitcoin alone during his two-month imprisonment last year and in October revealed there was still “a pot in excess of a few hundred thousand pounds” left.
Robinson portrayed himself as a member of the working class during his attempt to become an MEP, but his family’s home is currently on the market for £915,000.
Situated in an affluent village, a listing said the home had “no expense spared” and featured underfloor heating, an annex and hot tub.
Ezra Levant, founder of the Rebel, has been covering Robinson’s ongoing legal case and crowdfunding for activists to travel to Britain to counter “mainstream media” reporting.....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...box=1559285380
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Well then I guess he should be endlessly doused in milkshakes :dontknow:
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Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had profited from both significant support from foreign donors and crowdfunding from individual donors around the world. The
Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank, said it had spent roughly $60,000 (£48,000) on “Free Tommy” demonstrations in London last year.
In a media interview during his failed campaign to be elected as a member of the European parliament, Robinson suggested the MEF had paid £78,000 in legal fees for his ongoing contempt of court case, but the think tank has not confirmed the sum.
Robinson was also a beneficiary of a “fellowship” from US tech billionaire Robert Shillman that bolstered his salary from Canadian website Rebel Media, where he worked from early 2017 until February last year.
Robinson has also sought funding from Israeli backers and visited the country.
In a leaked
video where he boasted about scoring drugs, Robinson claimed to have spoken to Benjamin Netanyahu, adding: “I got my Zionist card out and said I am a Zionist and I bought us everything. Shalom motherf***er.”
Earlier this month, he posted a photo on his Telegram channel wearing a hat emblazoned with the Israeli flag with the caption: “I need your shekels.”
Robinson has continued to ask for donations from British supporters by claiming money was needed for causes including his MEP campaign, a bus, protests, security and legal claims.
He received almost
£20,000 of donations in Bitcoin alone during his two-month imprisonment last year and in October revealed there was still “a pot in excess of a few hundred thousand pounds” left.
Robinson portrayed himself as a member of the working class during his attempt to become an MEP, but his family’s home is currently on the market for £915,000.
Situated in an affluent village, a listing said the home had “no expense spared” and featured underfloor heating, an annex and hot tub.
Ezra Levant, founder of the Rebel, has been covering Robinson’s ongoing legal case and crowdfunding for activists to travel to Britain to counter “mainstream media” reporting.....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...box=1559285380
So what? You appear to be jealous of anyone with a following a bit of money. Robinson was born into a working class community. However his step Dad and Mum worked hard and instilled in him a good work ethic and so he knew the value of work and having got got advice from people he worked for managed to get himself in the property market building up several homes. If he had just stayed quiet he would likely be an Al or an X by now, but instead took the path of speaking out.
Of course Robinson operates by donations and groups offering him money. Is he supposed to get a job in Tesco's which is not even good enough for you? Nobody will hire him in a regular job now due to the risks and thus he operates by donations.
Robinson is working class, there is no escaping growing up in a rough community, not knowing your father, and having to work your way from basic beginnings. That is by definition working class. Some do indeed manage to rise up somehow, but you cannot escape yourself or what you are. Tommy Robinson is hardly Chelsea Clinton or the son of Jeremy Corbyn is he now?
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BBC defend Jo Brand joke - "Throw battery acid not milkshakes"
She meant at Nigel Farage and I suppose the forum "favourites" Carl and Tommy and all the other right-winger "baddies."
Now personally I'm fine with the joke. It's a joke. However, Danny Baker got sacked for the chimp joke, Carlagon got destroyed for "don't rape" and as for that poor Count Duck bloke who got nicked, fuck me i'll never get my head around that bollocks?
The main defence is - she can say what she likes because she's a "proper" comedian.
The opposing view is - this is disgraceful double standards typical of the left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48611424
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Re: BBC defend Jo Brand joke - "Throw battery acid not milkshakes"
Here's the context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbj-acXXGQQ
She's making a joke and should be allowed to say that and even if someone were to throw battery acid (not an unheard of thing in England surely) at someone then MAYBE worst she gets is a civil suit which I'm certain a lawyer could make the case for (it is what they are paid to do).
I don't find the joke funny but humor is subjective freedom of speech isn't.
Put the shoe on the other foot though and somebody would be going to jail 100% certain.
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She meant at Nigel Farage and I suppose the forum "favourites" Carl and Tommy and all the other right-winger "baddies."
Now personally I'm fine with the joke. It's a joke. However, Danny Baker got sacked for the chimp joke, Carlagon got destroyed for "don't rape" and as for that poor Count Duck bloke who got nicked, fuck me i'll never get my head around that bollocks?
The main defence is - she can say what she likes because she's a "proper" comedian.
The opposing view is - this is disgraceful double standards typical of the left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48611424
Proper shit comedian as funny as broken arm Miles she talks through her nose.
Can't stand her or that lisping twat Johnathan Ross one more idiot who thinks he's funny .
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She meant at Nigel Farage and I suppose the forum "favourites" Carl and Tommy and all the other right-winger "baddies."
Now personally I'm fine with the joke. It's a joke. However, Danny Baker got sacked for the chimp joke, Carlagon got destroyed for "don't rape" and as for that poor Count Duck bloke who got nicked, fuck me i'll never get my head around that bollocks?
The main defence is - she can say what she likes because she's a "proper" comedian.
The opposing view is - this is disgraceful double standards typical of the left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48611424
Proper shit comedian as funny as broken arm Miles she talks through her nose.
Can't stand her or that lisping twat Johnathan Ross one more idiot who thinks he's funny .
We gave you Piers Morgan back and how do you repay us???? You send over James Corden....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOO3MGMDISI
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Brand is a typical scruffy leftie , I personally don't take this GASTROPOD seriously.
Crap at comedy , the only thing funny about her is the way she looks.
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She meant at Nigel Farage and I suppose the forum "favourites" Carl and Tommy and all the other right-winger "baddies."
Now personally I'm fine with the joke. It's a joke. However, Danny Baker got sacked for the chimp joke, Carlagon got destroyed for "don't rape" and as for that poor Count Duck bloke who got nicked, fuck me i'll never get my head around that bollocks?
The main defence is - she can say what she likes because she's a "proper" comedian.
The opposing view is - this is disgraceful double standards typical of the left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48611424
Proper shit comedian as funny as broken arm Miles she talks through her nose.
Can't stand her or that lisping twat Johnathan Ross one more idiot who thinks he's funny .
We gave you Piers Morgan back and how do you repay us???? You send over James Corden....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOO3MGMDISI
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What is that James Corden all about? Do people actually like him or something? I don't watch TV or anything but have seen occasional clips of him and I automatically want to apply him to a liposuction device until all of his internal organs have been sucked out. What a waste to have Paul McCartney interviewed by him.
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True, there are double standards there Fenster. What's more dangerous? To make a slightly racist joke or to jokingly encourage acid attacks when London is acid attack central? Personally, I think any joke goes though and any person carrying out violence is responsible for their own actions. Anything can be joked about.
BTW, I should probably state that I was joking too. I am not going to get hold of a liposuction machine and suck out any internal organs.
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So silence again on Robinson punching an England fan to the ground who was in no way getting in his face. No comment on Farrage claiming he would pick up a rifle to get Brexit or the irony that without Farrage who was the fucking baby whose zombie fans made the complaint to the police about Brand, Jo Cox would probably still be alive. Double standards to be sure.
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The morally superior "lefties" created this current climate through blatant double standards. When "we" make edgy jokes it's hilarious, when they make edgy jokes it should be censored, they're disgusting evil dangerous "racist" bad people. Our violence is justified, their violence is because they're lowlife animals. I am better than you.
Jonathan Pie and Ricky Gervais and Cleese and all the smart ones could see where this was heading when Count Duck got arrested. All these "free speech" merchants - Caralagon, PJW - have been handed the moral high ground, as they're the ones defending Jo Brand.
The police are investigating Brand. How ridiculous they cry whilst just last year sneering at the "evil nazi racist pug man. Hypocrites. Ridiculous hypocrites.
As for Farage, it doesn't matter if he's a hypocrite, he's been handed a massive open goal, he can play the victim and his audience will lap up every bit. Poor Nigel.
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Why did Robinson punch an England fan? Is this something new?
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The morally superior "lefties" created this current climate through blatant double standards. When "we" make edgy jokes it's hilarious, when they make edgy jokes it should be censored, they're disgusting evil dangerous "racist" bad people. Our violence is justified, their violence is because they're lowlife animals. I am better than you.
Jonathan Pie and Ricky Gervais and Cleese and all the smart ones could see where this was heading when Count Duck got arrested. All these "free speech" merchants - Caralagon, PJW - have been handed the moral high ground, as they're the ones defending Jo Brand.
The police are investigating Brand. How ridiculous they cry whilst just last year sneering at the "evil nazi racist pug man. Hypocrites. Ridiculous hypocrites.
As for Farage, it doesn't matter if he's a hypocrite, he's been handed a massive open goal, he can play the victim and his audience will lap up every bit. Poor Nigel.
I agree with most of this but the fact is sometimes violence is justified, there is no such thing as absolute free speech and the moral superiority arrogance is not just the preserve of lefties.
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So silence again on Robinson punching an England fan to the ground who was in no way getting in his face. No comment on Farrage claiming he would pick up a rifle to get Brexit or the irony that without Farrage who was the fucking baby whose zombie fans made the complaint to the police about Brand, Jo Cox would probably still be alive. Double standards to be sure.
I told you what I thought about Robinson. He was out with his wife being harassed and accused of things he wasn't, had recently been publicly attacked several times. He had no idea if that would escalate and put the man down. Wouldn't you do the same thing if someone was doing that around you and your wife, Beanz? I don't think I begrudge him that. You have not had hundreds of death threats and the police do nothing about it at all. I think Robinson is right to be a little bit wary. Yet on the flip side they will arrest a man for teaching his dog a cute little trick.
Personally, I am okay with the joke, but it is far worse than Baker's one for sure.
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Why did Robinson punch an England fan? Is this something new?
Yes, last week I think. England away game in Portugal, an England fan gives him some verbal from a distance. Tommeh goes up to fan and punches him to the ground. Other England fans around him say "that was uncalled for... No need for that"
Tommeh goes straight onto SpewTube and claims the guy was getting in his face blah de blah.
Can't play video from phone but there is footage up in a few places.
Same as the milkshake bollocks. Yes OK don't throw milkshake at someone but then two blokes holding the Asian fella as Tommeh repeatedly punches him and for his sycophantic boyfriends on here it's apparently all good.
Ridiculous hypocrisy.
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Beanz
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Fenster
Why did Robinson punch an England fan? Is this something new?
Yes, last week I think. England away game in Portugal, an England fan gives him some verbal from a distance. Tommeh goes up to fan and punches him to the ground. Other England fans around him say "that was uncalled for... No need for that"
Tommeh goes straight onto SpewTube and claims the guy was getting in his face blah de blah.
Can't play video from phone but there is footage up in a few places.
Same as the milkshake bollocks. Yes OK don't throw milkshake at someone but then two blokes holding the Asian fella as Tommeh repeatedly punches him and for his sycophantic boyfriends on here it's apparently all good.
Ridiculous hypocrisy.
If Robinson was repeatedly punching him then the chap would be in a hospital milking it and Robinson no doubt arrested himself. Instead the chap was recorded more than happy in a taxi a little while later completely fine. Unless Robinson punches like Malignaggi. :-\
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Beanz
So silence again on Robinson punching an England fan to the ground who was in no way getting in his face. No comment on Farrage claiming he would pick up a rifle to get Brexit or the irony that without Farrage who was the fucking baby whose zombie fans made the complaint to the police about Brand, Jo Cox would probably still be alive. Double standards to be sure.
I told you what I thought about Robinson. He was out with his wife being harassed and accused of things he wasn't, had recently been publicly attacked several times. He had no idea if that would escalate and put the man down. Wouldn't you do the same thing if someone was doing that around you and your wife, Beanz? I don't think I begrudge him that. You have not had hundreds of death threats and the police do nothing about it at all. I think Robinson is right to be a little bit wary. Yet on the flip side they will arrest a man for teaching his dog a cute little trick.
Personally, I am okay with the joke, but it is far worse than Baker's one for sure.
No he hasn't been attacked. Someone threw milkshake at him. However you dress it up he is a scumbag. I would not attack someone for words, particularly from a distance. Extraordinary the lengths you are willing to go to in order to excuse the cunt.
You have constantly asked for a special Tommy World in which the law should not apply to him.
Fuck him. He is a worthless publicity hungry divisive little cunt.
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Gandalf
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Beanz
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Fenster
Why did Robinson punch an England fan? Is this something new?
Yes, last week I think. England away game in Portugal, an England fan gives him some verbal from a distance. Tommeh goes up to fan and punches him to the ground. Other England fans around him say "that was uncalled for... No need for that"
Tommeh goes straight onto SpewTube and claims the guy was getting in his face blah de blah.
Can't play video from phone but there is footage up in a few places.
Same as the milkshake bollocks. Yes OK don't throw milkshake at someone but then two blokes holding the Asian fella as Tommeh repeatedly punches him and for his sycophantic boyfriends on here it's apparently all good.
Ridiculous hypocrisy.
If Robinson was repeatedly punching him then the chap would be in a hospital milking it and Robinson no doubt arrested himself. Instead the chap was recorded more than happy in a taxi a little while later completely fine. Unless Robinson punches like Malignaggi. :-\
It's on video and clear as day. You saw it with your own eyes. Look at any non Tommy propaganda for a change and you can see for yourself.
You will still justify it, the same as you will for Farrage, Boris etc.
Amazing cognitive dissonance.
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Beanz
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Gandalf
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Beanz
So silence again on Robinson punching an England fan to the ground who was in no way getting in his face. No comment on Farrage claiming he would pick up a rifle to get Brexit or the irony that without Farrage who was the fucking baby whose zombie fans made the complaint to the police about Brand, Jo Cox would probably still be alive. Double standards to be sure.
I told you what I thought about Robinson. He was out with his wife being harassed and accused of things he wasn't, had recently been publicly attacked several times. He had no idea if that would escalate and put the man down. Wouldn't you do the same thing if someone was doing that around you and your wife, Beanz? I don't think I begrudge him that. You have not had hundreds of death threats and the police do nothing about it at all. I think Robinson is right to be a little bit wary. Yet on the flip side they will arrest a man for teaching his dog a cute little trick.
Personally, I am okay with the joke, but it is far worse than Baker's one for sure.
No he hasn't been attacked. Someone threw milkshake at him. However you dress it up he is a scumbag. I would not attack someone for words, particularly from a distance. Extraordinary the lengths you are willing to go to in order to excuse the cunt.
You have constantly asked for a special Tommy World in which the law should not apply to him.
Fuck him. He is a worthless publicity hungry divisive little cunt.
Yes, he was physically attacked having been questioned why he had been barging around like a nutjob earlier in the day. That is physically attacked and furthermore it was damage to his clothing meaning damage to his property too. That was undeniably a physical attack and you cannot tell me you would not retaliate if someone did that to you? Okay.
So you are saying you would not attack someone who for no reason at all is continually harassing you in the street? You would do what? Just run away? Wait for him to hit you? Of course you would keep your wife as safe from harm as possible and if that means being physical I am sure you would.
Divisive is feminism and you call yourself a feminist. ;D
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Beanz
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Gandalf
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Beanz
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Fenster
Why did Robinson punch an England fan? Is this something new?
Yes, last week I think. England away game in Portugal, an England fan gives him some verbal from a distance. Tommeh goes up to fan and punches him to the ground. Other England fans around him say "that was uncalled for... No need for that"
Tommeh goes straight onto SpewTube and claims the guy was getting in his face blah de blah.
Can't play video from phone but there is footage up in a few places.
Same as the milkshake bollocks. Yes OK don't throw milkshake at someone but then two blokes holding the Asian fella as Tommeh repeatedly punches him and for his sycophantic boyfriends on here it's apparently all good.
Ridiculous hypocrisy.
If Robinson was repeatedly punching him then the chap would be in a hospital milking it and Robinson no doubt arrested himself. Instead the chap was recorded more than happy in a taxi a little while later completely fine. Unless Robinson punches like Malignaggi. :-\
It's on video and clear as day. You saw it with your own eyes. Look at any non Tommy propaganda for a change and you can see for yourself.
You will still justify it, the same as you will for Farrage, Boris etc.
Amazing cognitive dissonance.
So, why was Mr Milkshake not black and blue and in a hospital milkshaking it for all it was worth? Because he was barely grazed and the police drove him away not to a hospital, but to his friends so he could have a good laugh. Look, he barely landed anything as security dragged the little punk away. Maybe a punch at best. Again, would you not respond in the same way? I know my immediate reaction would be to swing. I think it would be the reaction of most people to being attacked. You have the right to defend yourself. This is The Guardian which is toss, but it is all the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W4e4bUB4iU
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There is no evidence Robinson was attacked. Zero. Nadda. Zilch.
The fan shouted "You don't represent England fans Tommy, you don't represent me"
Tommy and his mates then threw drink all over him.
Then Tommy runs up
Runs up
Runs up to the guy and sucker punches him from behind.
Like I said for you Tommy can do no wrong. Its beyond ridiculous.
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
The morally superior "lefties" created this current climate through blatant double standards. When "we" make edgy jokes it's hilarious, when they make edgy jokes it should be censored, they're disgusting evil dangerous "racist" bad people. Our violence is justified, their violence is because they're lowlife animals. I am better than you.
Jonathan Pie and Ricky Gervais and Cleese and all the smart ones could see where this was heading when Count Duck got arrested. All these "free speech" merchants - Caralagon, PJW - have been handed the moral high ground, as they're the ones defending Jo Brand.
The police are investigating Brand. How ridiculous they cry whilst just last year sneering at the "evil nazi racist pug man. Hypocrites. Ridiculous hypocrites.
As for Farage, it doesn't matter if he's a hypocrite, he's been handed a massive open goal, he can play the victim and his audience will lap up every bit. Poor Nigel.
I agree with most of this but the fact is sometimes violence is justified, there is no such thing as absolute free speech and the moral superiority arrogance is not just the preserve of lefties.
Without doubt "righties" are massive hypocrites too. "Snowflake," "snowflake," "snowflake" now they're crying for someone to be arrested for a joke (not the smart ones, obviously, even Lyle didn't fall for it)
"Sometimes violence is justified?" I'm talking about self-righteous pricks, like the middle-class, "educated" mob at the Trump protest, who scream "Nazi," "racist," "facist," then start physically attacking people for wearing a red hat.
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Gandalf I am not on YouTube boasting about getting hundreds of thousands of pounds from American alt right media companies. I don't go around in a mossad t-shirt taking selfies on top of an Israeli rank. I don't hold rallies to encourage people to turn on their neighbors. If I am out with my Mrs pushing her in her wheelchair it would be a bit weird if someone threw a milkshake at me.
If they did I would not have a bunch of my mates hold someone down for me to punch them either.
Weird logic.
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There is no evidence Robinson was attacked. Zero. Nadda. Zilch.
The fan shouted "You don't represent England fans Tommy, you don't represent me"
Tommy and his mates then threw drink all over him.
Then Tommy runs up
Runs up
Runs up to the guy and sucker punches him from behind.
Like I said for you Tommy can do no wrong. Its beyond ridiculous.
You are being selective. The guy said more than that and paid the price. Take a look at the slow motion replays. If you had just been knocked to the ground would your friends be smiling as though they had won a prize? The guy was looking for trouble and seemed to get what he wanted.
https://www.tr.news/group-of-friends...d-provocation/
