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Just because someone holds down a job doesn't mean they have recovered from trauma, doesn't prove they are not fucked up psychiatrically, Miles. There a functioning schizophrenics holding high level positions worldwide for an example. You say it didn't effect the end product, but it did. You have more hangups than most people I know. So when you were 20-ish (and we were 40-ish) we had to listen to your sophomoric pontificating. So now you're 40-ish (and we are 60-ish) SO EXCUSE US IF IT IS ANNOYING TO HEAR YOU NOW SAY YOU HAVE MATURED, AND TO QUOTE A BANAL, TRITE, PAINFULLY OBVIOUS SAYING THAT WE ALREADY KNEW WHEN YOU WERE 20.
Hahaha X is pooping-up Britain, I can't comment on it, AND he's cracking me up with his last 10 memes.
That’s odd the New York Times contacted me and I had to turn them down, it would take too big a bite out of my benefits checkQuote:
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Originally Posted by gandalfthe british did not vote for that and if it were to happen you have the right to resist any way you like. I have no desire to see it privatized, but would like to see borders controlled and for people to live more healthily thus easing the burden. It is very well funded and the poor benefit the most from it. It is fair that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by beanz
Of course nobody should wait hours after a heart attack, but if it is full, it is full. Migration is not the cash bonanza people have been lied to about and it does place a strain on everything. If you care about your family you want less coming in and a more effective system for british people. Make foreigners pay, but of course the money is seldom collected and many cannot afford it.
I disagree with you about corbyn being too radical. A lot of it really is what labour did under blair and the brexit pledge betrayal. People do not trust corbyn because of the brexit flip and he knows he hasn't been true to himself there. No way was he bigging up the eu over tea with tony benn. He politicked and it went wrong. Labour reduced the gap so people were listening before. Something happened and it was brexit. Plus fenster is right about that ira stuff, but i personally do not have issues with that.
And i have not sold out to anyone. All i want is what is good for britain and its interests. I do not gain anything and wish no harm.
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I think some of Corbyn's manifesto was decent, but parts of it zany. Votes for 16 year olds. Murder of formed babies. Minimum wage far too high. No consideration of British workers or welfare by controlling migration. And the contradictions on Brexit...not helped by interviews with leading members of his own party.
Corbyn still comes across as a gent, but the manifesto was odd and eccentric with some decent stuff in there economically as I don't like corporations not paying their share and things like that. He blew it on Brexit by selling out himself.
I maintain that he was a man trapped by his party and trapped by ideology. He would not compromise. If he had been true to people outside the London bubble I would have got it, but it was my experiences informed by working people in the North over a month long period that changed me. I haven't sold out, I just took the time to see it from the angle of the man on the railways. It was a different experience to my own. I had to see it first hand to get out of my own bubble.
SOLD OUT and signed up for the politics of resentment. Look at how between 85 and 99% of what you post always has to reference yourself as though you are a victim. You have to leave your room to get out of your bubble and you have admitted that very rarely happens unless you are going to work.
https://www.responsivetranslation.co...n-440x4061.jpg
Was a victim sure, but it hasn't shaped the end product. I have a life Beanz, it is just that I don't tell you much about it.
Hard work and discipline pays off, it really does. At least it does for me and the people around me are the ones who get me and they do well too.. I couldn't ask for anything more. Winning not by money, but mentality.
Someone online said you are liberal at 20 because you have a heart, but you are conservative by 40 because you have grown. Kind of true.
You just haven't grown, Beanz. Still stuck as a permanent volatile spotty kid. And you were slaughtered. Live with it.
Your impression is just a projected fantasy of more resentment. It is like the stupid lie of me being some benefit scrounger that was spread by many here, even going to the trouble of privately messaging others to get them to believe it. I get why. People seek to invalidate empathy, and compassion and creativity because they often lack the imagination to understand how anyone can make a living by doing anything other than what you do. In fact you have gone further in seeking to cast public servants, decent hard working people like nurses and paramedics and firemen and teachers as somehow being inferior because they have chosen not to work in the private sector. That is a pretty big hump to carry around.
I was contacted by the picture editor of the Daily Mail last week, and stupid though it may seem to you, I had to turn the job down. Billionaire run papers like hers have so easily turned the heads of people who view the world like you do, and I did not want to be associated with that, even in a supplemental Sunday magazine. That i was in a position to do so is not evidence of being a permanent adolescent as you are suggesting ( that would be a bit weird after bringing up and putting two kids through school over 25 years and now helping to bring up my grandchildren) but rather an indication of quite how far i have managed to come, without having to resort to turning to the state to support me. I did not go to UNI after school like you, I did so as a parent and carer much later in life, at the same time as holding down a full time job. That allowed me the opportunity to do things that most people like me would have been told were impossible.When I got asked last week to come and sit on an industry panel at a local University to speak to the kids about my career and that is not the first mentoring i will have done. And that mentoring can't help but change you, the same as being a parent does.
The point is that the idea you must conform as you have, or and become a robot, that you have to take this route and then that means you cut off all over routes and avenues to explore is a lie. Life is not a journey. It is not a one way descent into hoarding everything and becoming the kind of old fart that seeks to remove the freedoms of the younger generations after you. It is a one off, a privilege to experience and fill with joy, something to PLAY , to waste it trying to blame other people for your own dissatisfaction is a criminal waste. At least Al seem happy with his posh meals. What do you have? the satisfaction of mocking modern plans to make Britain more like SK in many ways and the joy of cardigans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpaUICxEhk
All the talking and all the bullshit it's over Brexit is next Borris was the best at the bullshit Corbyn was just shit.!
Borris was the best of a bad bunch the cream of the crop the best rotten turnip.
Am I pleased Borris won not really am I glad Corbyn lost yes I dislike Jeremy with a passion I hate far left lunatics.
Just like I hated Thatcher far right lunatic fuck politics Merry Christmas everyone.🎅🤶👼🍺🍻🍴🍹🍸🥃
What is that all about? All I said was that your politics was naive and out of touch which was something I conceded about myself. I admitted I got it wrong. You have a hard time doing that and the you double down with some kind of life story. You want the Oliver Twist routine? You are not the only one who did a degree while holding down full time work. It is no competition.Quote:
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Originally Posted by gandalfthe british did not vote for that and if it were to happen you have the right to resist any way you like. I have no desire to see it privatized, but would like to see borders controlled and for people to live more healthily thus easing the burden. It is very well funded and the poor benefit the most from it. It is fair that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by beanz
Of course nobody should wait hours after a heart attack, but if it is full, it is full. Migration is not the cash bonanza people have been lied to about and it does place a strain on everything. If you care about your family you want less coming in and a more effective system for british people. Make foreigners pay, but of course the money is seldom collected and many cannot afford it.
I disagree with you about corbyn being too radical. A lot of it really is what labour did under blair and the brexit pledge betrayal. People do not trust corbyn because of the brexit flip and he knows he hasn't been true to himself there. No way was he bigging up the eu over tea with tony benn. He politicked and it went wrong. Labour reduced the gap so people were listening before. Something happened and it was brexit. Plus fenster is right about that ira stuff, but i personally do not have issues with that.
And i have not sold out to anyone. All i want is what is good for britain and its interests. I do not gain anything and wish no harm.
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I think some of Corbyn's manifesto was decent, but parts of it zany. Votes for 16 year olds. Murder of formed babies. Minimum wage far too high. No consideration of British workers or welfare by controlling migration. And the contradictions on Brexit...not helped by interviews with leading members of his own party.
Corbyn still comes across as a gent, but the manifesto was odd and eccentric with some decent stuff in there economically as I don't like corporations not paying their share and things like that. He blew it on Brexit by selling out himself.
I maintain that he was a man trapped by his party and trapped by ideology. He would not compromise. If he had been true to people outside the London bubble I would have got it, but it was my experiences informed by working people in the North over a month long period that changed me. I haven't sold out, I just took the time to see it from the angle of the man on the railways. It was a different experience to my own. I had to see it first hand to get out of my own bubble.
SOLD OUT and signed up for the politics of resentment. Look at how between 85 and 99% of what you post always has to reference yourself as though you are a victim. You have to leave your room to get out of your bubble and you have admitted that very rarely happens unless you are going to work.
https://www.responsivetranslation.co...n-440x4061.jpg
Was a victim sure, but it hasn't shaped the end product. I have a life Beanz, it is just that I don't tell you much about it.
Hard work and discipline pays off, it really does. At least it does for me and the people around me are the ones who get me and they do well too.. I couldn't ask for anything more. Winning not by money, but mentality.
Someone online said you are liberal at 20 because you have a heart, but you are conservative by 40 because you have grown. Kind of true.
You just haven't grown, Beanz. Still stuck as a permanent volatile spotty kid. And you were slaughtered. Live with it.
Your impression is just a projected fantasy of more resentment. It is like the stupid lie of me being some benefit scrounger that was spread by many here, even going to the trouble of privately messaging others to get them to believe it. I get why. People seek to invalidate empathy, and compassion and creativity because they often lack the imagination to understand how anyone can make a living by doing anything other than what you do. In fact you have gone further in seeking to cast public servants, decent hard working people like nurses and paramedics and firemen and teachers as somehow being inferior because they have chosen not to work in the private sector. That is a pretty big hump to carry around.
I was contacted by the picture editor of the Daily Mail last week, and stupid though it may seem to you, I had to turn the job down. Billionaire run papers like hers have so easily turned the heads of people who view the world like you do, and I did not want to be associated with that, even in a supplemental Sunday magazine. That i was in a position to do so is not evidence of being a permanent adolescent as you are suggesting ( that would be a bit weird after bringing up and putting two kids through school over 25 years and now helping to bring up my grandchildren) but rather an indication of quite how far i have managed to come, without having to resort to turning to the state to support me. I did not go to UNI after school like you, I did so as a parent and carer much later in life, at the same time as holding down a full time job. That allowed me the opportunity to do things that most people like me would have been told were impossible.When I got asked last week to come and sit on an industry panel at a local University to speak to the kids about my career and that is not the first mentoring i will have done. And that mentoring can't help but change you, the same as being a parent does.
The point is that the idea you must conform as you have, or and become a robot, that you have to take this route and then that means you cut off all over routes and avenues to explore is a lie. Life is not a journey. It is not a one way descent into hoarding everything and becoming the kind of old fart that seeks to remove the freedoms of the younger generations after you. It is a one off, a privilege to experience and fill with joy, something to PLAY , to waste it trying to blame other people for your own dissatisfaction is a criminal waste. At least Al seem happy with his posh meals. What do you have? the satisfaction of mocking modern plans to make Britain more like SK in many ways and the joy of cardigans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpaUICxEhk
As for benefits, it is a rumor that has long gone around, and not started by me to be honest, but I have certainly considered the possibility. I don't want to talk about your family, said I wouldn't and won't as I said to you I wouldn't. It is no different to you calling me entitled and lazy or assuming I am full of bitterness and woe when I do far more than when in front of a crowd and have never been more personally fulfilled. That is also what they call projection. I don't talk about what I do very much here these days.
It is no competition, but I stand by my view that if you piss your money away then you can end up homeless or dead or broke and it is not selling out to live a healthy, productive and indeed fun life. I don't feel the fire like you do, I don't feel how I did whenever I made that post you pulled up. Getting it together is not selling out, learning to appreciate life and yourself is not selling out.
In your last pm to me I praised you and was positive. I can see you are productive in your own way, but you do have an attitude problem. It wouldn't be selling out to work on that a bit too. I see in other threads that you seem to be doubling down and you just read it wrong and people do not agree. There will be another chance in 5 years.
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Oliver Twist routine? You are the one forever telling us how you were sent up a chimney and lived in a workhouse before starting work at 9 mate. I was just trying to explain why I voted the way I did and that whatever people claim by voting for the most selfish and fucked up version of Conservatism ever, under a government of serial liars, the fact remains they chose to close their eyes to things like growing poverty, homelessness, and the ideological move to sell off even more public services, under the influence of the billionaires behind papers like the Mail.
It was completely relevant but you just like to play pretend because you do not have to live under it or suffer the consequences of it. It is massively personal to me and will impact me and my life and that of my loved ones. So of course you do not feel the fire like I do. I am not going to apologise for that though and pretend that I will remain unmoved, as the UK is broken up and everything that made us great continues to be sold off. The UK is in a shit and dangerously dark place and it's about to get worse unless you look and live like Boris,the Billionaires and their chums.
I have young family in the UK too, so it is personal for everyone. A lot of what you were saying had nothing to do with the election and it is you sniping with sell out etc when I haven't voted for anyone. I simply do not see it like you do and the Johnson thread is where people can discuss how it evolves.
Let us not pretend that Labour was not vile last time they were in power either and no one cannot pretend the Tories have been decent. Personally, I would prefer something else completely, but the reality is Labour wouldn't listen on the issue that mattered the most to people and as can be seen in the voting map only seemed to see a London bubble. There are pockets of traditionalism out there but that is a blue country at large now.
Johnson might be good, he might be terrible, but the truth is America has been a good ally historically, we have much in common culturally, and the truth is they bailed us out a few times in the 20th century because of Europe. Maybe Europe can play fair this time too, but it is a new age and the ups and downs can be discussed.
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The one saving grace for me was Widdecombe the haggard old crone getting her arse handed to her on a plate by the local MP here who just happened to be a Gay man who thankfully has not been subjected to the conversion therapy she approves of ;D. I know of a lot of people who never in a month of Sundays usually vote Labour who voted for him because he was born here , lives here and does a great job or representing people.
For the record the 2019 general election result was as follows.
The Conservatives won by some margin.
The Brexit results - we voted leave the Eu.
I am sure we all have better things to do with our busy lives as to keep talking about something that has already happened.
Close the thread,
The End.
Nice Try.
Go to page 48 of the Tory Manifesto and see what has been voted in.
The destruction of everything that made the British Democracy what it was.
They are going to prevent the public using Judicial Reviews to stop unlawful government policies. We will not even be able to check the legality of such proposals.
They will scrap human rights, gerrymander Parliament, Disenfranchise voters, anything to avoid be held to account.
But no lets worry about Diane Abbbots mismatched shoes and ignore things like this
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5115&stc=1
Irish Senator Mark Daly calls on Irish government to begin preparations for a United Ireland following Brexit Britain's election results in Scotland and Northern Ireland. ...
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/po...Ehj57GGxoJVUqo
Democracy like Brexit which you refused to accept ?Quote:
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Democracy like the general election which you refuse to accept ?
You cant pick and choose which bit of democracy you want.
Your beginning to sound like a very bitter labour supporter, look at the figures more people in the UK don't agree with you.
Its over and done with accept it.
Bullshit mate. Accepting democracy is not the same as being some cowering subject applauding the illegal destruction of Great Britain. Are you making excuses for traitors now?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Beanz
Democracy like the general election which you refuse to accept ?
You cant pick and choose which bit of democracy you want.
Your beginning to sound like a very bitter labour supporter, look at the figures more people in the UK don't agree with you.
Its over and done with accept it.
It is astonishing to me to see people even here on Saddos 'I'm life long Labour and I God help me voted Tory' and you've got some folks here who don't or won't attempt to understand why that is.
Newsflash, elite social leftists have hijacked Labour and the "working man" has been at the very best forgotten and at worst has become disdained by those leftists. Owen Jones, Ash 'Literally a Communist' Sarkar, and Lily 'I know you're greedy bastards because I'm a greedy bastard' Allen...ain't the best ambassadors of your brand. Neither are the performance art jackasses doing the fucking extinction rebellion bullshit...I'm American yes I know my place, but I can OBSERVE that these things ain't going over too well with the folks who just want a paycheck, watch some footy, and have a pint.
And Antifa have taken to the streets for yet another public temper tantrum because OF COURSE they have! They've been mistaking kindness as weakness for too long and eventually it'll get a lot of them in trouble.
4 in a row Beanz, 4 elections in a row and you're STILL on about "the Tories lied!"/"the voting public is too dense to understand".......4 in a row!!!!! How many beatings do you need before you wise up? Labour needs to either get back to actually being for the working man OR just admit they are communists either way it'll be quite a while before Labour win again.
And you can go ahead and bet this result will be mirrored in the United States.
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Originally Posted by BeanzBullshit mate. Accepting democracy is not the same as being some cowering subject applauding the illegal destruction of Great Britain. Are you making excuses for traitors now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlDemocracy like Brexit which you refused to accept ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Democracy like the general election which you refuse to accept ?
You cant pick and choose which bit of democracy you want.
Your beginning to sound like a very bitter labour supporter, look at the figures more people in the UK don't agree with you.
Its over and done with accept it.
Short of a military war lord taking over I don't see how else you can do it.
People are disappointed as they voted elsewhere, however the people who voted tory got their democratic wish and are happy with the results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=643IUDOQj6kQuote:
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Labour (and Democrats in America too) is coming dangerously close to Charlie Zelenoff levels of delusion. All these calls for "fighting" and they just keep getting it handed to them...4 general elections in a row and that THING stands up there jabbing it's finger into the chest of the British electorate telling them how wrong they are....insanity!
Calling people fascists and Nazis ain't winning you any elections. Saying "fight them on the beaches" ain't doing it, these are your neighbors and fellow countrymen, you may disagree with them but they aren't hateful evil people so perhaps stop accusing them of being so.
Lyle, you make an interesting point about US Democrats.
I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on current US politics, but this article also makes that link (and you might find a British media viewpoint interesting?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50785442
Thanks for the article and yes it connects some dots. For example the miners in Sedgefield & those in Pennsylvania. The very blue collar workers who were the foundation of both Labour & Democrat party bases. In the NEW Left, those folks aren't welcome or I'll say they don't FEEL welcome. The NEW Left is all about GREEN and so mining is very much a nonstarter, then there's the lack of diversity and I'm sure cultural traditions of the area which mean they are socially conservative mainly, they aren't worried about intersectionality or privilege or transgender what have you...they want jobs, a paycheck, some security for themselves and their families...that what speaks to them. Trump very pro fracking and oil/natural gas production so he's put those folks to work, put money in their pockets, and that means the world to those folks, they feel useful to society...it's why those votes changed Labour to Tory and Democrat to Republican.Quote:
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Socialism doesn't speak to a large group of people that haughty effete lefties ASSUME it does. Socialism speaks to posh city folk who feel guilty that they have so much and never had to work for it themselves. Immigrants from real honest to God socialist nations, they left for a reason, young blue collar workers don't want excessive taxes being pulled from their wages, nor do they want their jobs lost due to their companies having the shit taxed out of them, and entrepreneurs they aren't huge on having the shit taxed out of them either.
Labour in the UK lost the working class, but gained the woke. And that will give the party sleepless nights over the coming months and years. It was their worst defeat since 1935.
That right there is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Get woke go broke.
Labour was paying attention to University students and a London centric multicultural group that does not represent Britain at large. Even Corbyn with his millions was representing Islington with its average house price of about 750,000 pounds nearly 2 and a half times the average and most ordinary peoplewell below even that if even with a mortgage.
The ordinary person in the poorer parts of say Leeds could see their own community changing and no real prospects for thrmselves and many saw the influx as getting priority treatment. They ended up feeling frustrated and angry and they all know Blair started it all, that he failed the economy etc. The anti Labour feeling runs deep. Those people do like Robinson, they do see the hostility in some groups, they so see the breaking down of community, and so they reject the party that cheated them of so much.
'We want Brexit' they said and they were called racist and jeered for being stupid and they could see who was again ignoring them and so they taught them a lesson. The North rose up and changed everything. But so did many other regions. Labour is now a spot in Wales, a spot in the North and of course a chunk of London, a non British city.
Possible the end of them for generations if not good. The Tories just have to listen and respond. If not something else will represent the North and their Allies.
Bullshit, a 7.80 an hour job one can survive and live good there.Quote:
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Most people do not live in London and those that do often end up house sharing splktting the costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatboxingfanBullshit, a 7.80 an hour job one can survive and live good there.Quote:
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Somewhere like Manchester or Leeds and you can live on 7.80 and many are on more than that. I was well above minimum wage years ago having done a few simple training courses. 7.80 is the lowest and if you just have a bit of initiative you are not on 7.80 an hour. Get a suitable degree, choose a needed occupation and work at it. Not complicated.
7.80 at 40 hours a week is about 16 grand a year. Or 1400 a month before deductions.
Let's take Leeds as an example and assume he is a full time supermarket worker at ASDA on 8 pounds an hour willing to work whatever shifts and he doesn't have a higher degree, but has done a baking course. I had friends who used to do this work, especially in the bakery department which you know about Fats being a baker. Let's look at one review:
"Learned a lot and gained valuable experience. As a student, the pay was decent. The managers were usually understanding and overall nice. Occasionally worked more hours than I'd have liked to and days could sometimes drag if the hours were long and there wasn't a lot of work to do."
In that review is a pro and a con. The person even admits that it could be boring when there wasn't even anything to do. Wasn't exactly being ground to the bone there, but I know my friends got up early and mornings were busy.
16 grand a year, so he needs a place to live. Let's do a search. Hmm. How about this one?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property...-65867817.html
That is 500 taken from the 1400, but hardly any deposit and furnished already. Add your utilities (though I would eradicate council tax and VAT in the interests of people like this as a government policy) and he is left with several hundred a month to do whatever, he can even slyly take aging products home.
He is in a modern age where everything in terms of home pleasures is cheap or free. He can also go for a beer if he likes or indeed even save up his money. Being the modern age he might even save on the rent and live at home for a few years building up enough to get a mortgage on a not so expensive property up there.
Even the humble baker can be okay in a Tory Britain. If you do not tax him to death, then he is kind of okay and certainly able to live.
What I do take objection to is open borders meaning foreign competition keeping wages depressed and possibly taking his job and changing his community. He didn't ask for that and that is why Labour lost badly.
The worker wants to be respected and I do respect him as he clearly works hard and gets paid for it.
More reviews as every experience and situation is different.
"Asda is a good place to work .set hours and was ok pay for a baker.just want to grow and do different type of work as I've been there almost 16years"
"Enjoyable bakery with good coworkers. Good facilities provided to staff and subsidized meals provided that are of reasonable quality. Long hours but always busy with no downtime."
"up at 4AM to start at 5am. Ive worked at Asda for a while so got friendly with alot of people."
"Was a very poor run company to work for. Never got paid the right amount, and was not very stable when it came to work hours. You could be working 6 hours one week and 38 hours the next. Had no time to yourself as you were always wondering if you'd wake up with a phone call asking you to come into work"
With the last chap, I am not sure why the bakery would only require a baker 1 day a week. Everyone I knew was in there every morning doing their long shift. All have turned out okay, some moved onto other things.
Bakers have to start proving the yeast at 3 a.m. . Pretty lousy s*** if you ask me
Bloody hell. There are jobs everywhere. Even a cleaner earns 8.21 an hour which is how Brett Anderson developed as a young man. Lidl pays 9-10 pounds and my goodness if you have girlfriend who you haven't knocked up yet, you can even pool your resources providing you don't get a junk habit! These are the jobs with minimal skills required. Really basic stuff and it is on you if you haven't got many qualifications.
If you have a few skills, know how to wear a suit, then better jobs are there. Is it really evil to suggest that the work is there and that with a little charm you will get a job and not need a food bank? Page after page of work people can do, some low paid and some kind of good.
https://www.indeed.co.uk/jobs-in-Lee...2d8a8a0a3a046f
all them jobs you're talkin about are for teenagers who don't mind sharing a one-bedroom apartment with four other people and sharing the toilet bowl bespeckled and bes mattered with four other frat boys 22 years old. What grown man 35 or 45 years old is going to work in a supermarket for 8 lb an hour and feel happy? It looks easy to you because you are looking at it from a far. it seems like it would make such a perfect sense on paper but the moment you personally Gandalf go back to the UK for example and try to get one of those job you will see how hard it is to even be offered one because they will look at you and say your resume says English teacher you are not allowed to work in the supermarket as an English teacher because there are a hundred other applicants who already have supermarket experience and they will take them over you six ways to Sunday. Don't believe me go ahead and go back to the UK and see if it works
I have plenty of retail work experience and my sister checked out a language school nearby where I would be on about 12 pounds an hour if I did that. Would have walked into it as nobody around would have my qualifications or experience. In fact would have been weird for me to even do it. I was curious thus checked it out. Had one of my homesick moments. Not great money, but not the worst for a cram school. That is if I didn't even bother aspiring to something more fitting with my resume which would be genuine tertiary education. My friend who went back home, pretty similar to me, walked into a college job fairly quickly, but then went overseas again as the Middle East meant apartment with a swimming pool, no tax etc. The work is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
What a supermarket is looking for is charm, efficiency, and an ability to work under pressure. They hire all kinds of people and all it takes is initiative and going straight to the manager explaining that you want a job, are dedicated, and will work hard. How do you think I even got my first job in retail? I had no experience, was young, still at school, but they could see brightness and that alone gets you into most entry level jobs.
It isn't about me though as I have studied and have the work that fits my level, but I am saying other bright young things can still walk into those positions and in a few years rise up. That's how I raised my wages back home. Took a few training courses and each time the pay goes up a notch. I would often do 50 hour weeks and even as a student be doing 25. The work was always there. I have never known a time without work except for time I took off to write a dissertation. My only issue with it was that it was all about share owners, but the older me also realizes the money was enough. I simply spent it too fast like others. The quickest to complain are those who spend the fastest.
You see that Cram school that you talking about for 12 lb an hour? that's split shifts you will work from 8 a.m. until 12 noon and have nothing to do again until 6 p.m. until 10 p.m. night shift
You will have to take public transportation
No you will not get the supermarket jobs
you have to complete a company profile online and then apply on their web page and it will take a very long time for them to get back to you also they only hire 19 year olds who do everything that they are told like a little puppy dog
It's not the same world you remember
Not at all.Quote:
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It would have been afternoons until evenings, could get myself a car, but really be able to walk it considering the location and find a place to live fairly easily. It is not like a big American city. And college jobs are everywhere too.
I would get a supermarket job very easily as I know how to work counters, administer in offices, and have references proving my ability in that regard. In a Northern town you can walk into the supermarket, get the managers number, and they are usually looking for staff and if you are someone who seems relatively normal you will be given a chance. The only issue would be them thinking 'Why on earth do you want to work in a supermarket?' and thinking you will jump to something better quickly, but I am also pretty good at explaining myself to people.
That's the other thing, I do not doubt myself or my ability to get what I want.
I had no idea how different the UK was from France. Everything here is done online. You have to go to the company websites for all of the big places like Macy's and McDonald's and Target and Home Depot and Sam's club at Aldi's and Costco and Walmart and Sears add Burger King and KFC and Best Buy. You cannot just walk into those stores and ask for a manager. They will tell you to go online and apply. also how the hell are you going to afford a car if they only paying you 12 / hour?
Hey fats since when have they had a Macy’s in France? Look it up I’ll waitQuote:
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I am sure a lot of people apply for jobs that way and they will get rejected. I was watching a documentary one time about Brits who were blaming foreigners for getting the jobs. It turned out the Brits were doing what you did, but the Europeans were going in, asking, being personable, and basically showing that they really wanted that job. You cannot see that from an online resume. You see it face to face with a manager. I cannot speak for Burger King etc, but for ordinary restaurants etc, of course you can do that. The foreigners really were taking the jobs, but it was a difference in approach.Quote:
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As for the car, I have two of them, I will just buy another. :-X
Amy from Huddersfield begs to differ
Amy needs to get the calculator out because her accounts are dodgy. ;DQuote:
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What about these accounts?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfAmy needs to get the calculator out because her accounts are dodgy. ;DQuote:
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Average rent for February 2016
Location One-bed property Two-bed property (per person) Three-bed property (per person)
East Midlands £449 £272 £206
North East £485 £278 £202
Scotland £490 £308 £246
North West £515 £289 £215
Yorkshire and the Humber £523 £316 £211
South West £542 £345 £275
Wales £562 £326 £222
West Midlands £568 £321 £232
South East £658 £429 £347
East of England £672 £407 £311
Greater London £920 £583 £473