2019 UK General Election

[Dark Lord Al]

Nice Try.

Go to page 48 of the Tory Manifesto and see what has been voted in.

The destruction of everything that made the British Democracy what it was.

They are going to prevent the public using Judicial Reviews to stop unlawful government policies. We will not even be able to check the legality of such proposals.

They will scrap human rights, gerrymander Parliament, Disenfranchise voters, anything to avoid be held to account.

But no lets worry about Diane Abbbots mismatched shoes and ignore things like this

Democracy like Brexit which you refused to accept ?
Democracy like the general election which you refuse to accept ?
You cant pick and choose which bit of democracy you want.
Your beginning to sound like a very bitter labour supporter, look at the figures more people in the UK don't agree with you.
Its over and done with accept it.

Bullshit mate. Accepting democracy is not the same as being some cowering subject applauding the illegal destruction of Great Britain. Are you making excuses for traitors now?

The only way we can change the people running the country is to cast a democratic vote, which is what we all did.
Short of a military war lord taking over I don't see how else you can do it.
People are disappointed as they voted elsewhere, however the people who voted tory got their democratic wish and are happy with the results.

[El Kabong]

The only way we can change the people running the country is to cast a democratic vote, which is what we all did.
Short of a military war lord taking over I don't see how else you can do it.
People are disappointed as they voted elsewhere, however the people who voted tory got their democratic wish and are happy with the results.

Labour (and Democrats in America too) is coming dangerously close to Charlie Zelenoff levels of delusion. All these calls for "fighting" and they just keep getting it handed to them...4 general elections in a row and that THING stands up there jabbing it's finger into the chest of the British electorate telling them how wrong they are....insanity!



Calling people fascists and Nazis ain't winning you any elections. Saying "fight them on the beaches" ain't doing it, these are your neighbors and fellow countrymen, you may disagree with them but they aren't hateful evil people so perhaps stop accusing them of being so.

[X]

Lyle, you make an interesting point about US Democrats.

I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on current US politics, but this article also makes that link (and you might find a British media viewpoint interesting?)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50785442

[El Kabong]

Lyle, you make an interesting point about US Democrats.

I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on current US politics, but this article also makes that link (and you might find a British media viewpoint interesting?)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50785442

Thanks for the article and yes it connects some dots. For example the miners in Sedgefield & those in Pennsylvania. The very blue collar workers who were the foundation of both Labour & Democrat party bases. In the NEW Left, those folks aren't welcome or I'll say they don't FEEL welcome. The NEW Left is all about GREEN and so mining is very much a nonstarter, then there's the lack of diversity and I'm sure cultural traditions of the area which mean they are socially conservative mainly, they aren't worried about intersectionality or privilege or transgender what have you...they want jobs, a paycheck, some security for themselves and their families...that what speaks to them. Trump very pro fracking and oil/natural gas production so he's put those folks to work, put money in their pockets, and that means the world to those folks, they feel useful to society...it's why those votes changed Labour to Tory and Democrat to Republican.

Socialism doesn't speak to a large group of people that haughty effete lefties ASSUME it does. Socialism speaks to posh city folk who feel guilty that they have so much and never had to work for it themselves. Immigrants from real honest to God socialist nations, they left for a reason, young blue collar workers don't want excessive taxes being pulled from their wages, nor do they want their jobs lost due to their companies having the shit taxed out of them, and entrepreneurs they aren't huge on having the shit taxed out of them either.

Labour in the UK lost the working class, but gained the woke. And that will give the party sleepless nights over the coming months and years. It was their worst defeat since 1935.


That right there is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Get woke go broke.

[Gandalf]

Labour was paying attention to University students and a London centric multicultural group that does not represent Britain at large. Even Corbyn with his millions was representing Islington with its average house price of about 750,000 pounds nearly 2 and a half times the average and most ordinary peoplewell below even that if even with a mortgage.

The ordinary person in the poorer parts of say Leeds could see their own community changing and no real prospects for thrmselves and many saw the influx as getting priority treatment. They ended up feeling frustrated and angry and they all know Blair started it all, that he failed the economy etc. The anti Labour feeling runs deep. Those people do like Robinson, they do see the hostility in some groups, they so see the breaking down of community, and so they reject the party that cheated them of so much.

'We want Brexit' they said and they were called racist and jeered for being stupid and they could see who was again ignoring them and so they taught them a lesson. The North rose up and changed everything. But so did many other regions. Labour is now a spot in Wales, a spot in the North and of course a chunk of London, a non British city.

Possible the end of them for generations if not good. The Tories just have to listen and respond. If not something else will represent the North and their Allies.

[Fatboxingfan]

with its average house price of about 750,000 pounds nearly 2 and a half times the average and most ordinary peoplewell below even that if even with a mortgage.

The ordinary person in the poorer parts of say Leeds could see their own community changing and no real prospects for thrmselves and many saw the influx as getting priority treatment. .

Bullshit, a 7.80 an hour job one can survive and live good there.

[Gandalf]

with its average house price of about 750,000 pounds nearly 2 and a half times the average and most ordinary peoplewell below even that if even with a mortgage.

The ordinary person in the poorer parts of say Leeds could see their own community changing and no real prospects for thrmselves and many saw the influx as getting priority treatment. .

Bullshit, a 7.80 an hour job one can survive and live good there.

Most people do not live in London and those that do often end up house sharing splktting the costs.

Somewhere like Manchester or Leeds and you can live on 7.80 and many are on more than that. I was well above minimum wage years ago having done a few simple training courses. 7.80 is the lowest and if you just have a bit of initiative you are not on 7.80 an hour. Get a suitable degree, choose a needed occupation and work at it. Not complicated.