***Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!*** (Presser Included & Weigh In pictures)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I think you're talking too much as a fan of Cotto and not a fan of Judah. I think Cotto will pull through this fight, but just as people talk about "the versions of Zab that turn up" those picking against him also label it as an "he will have 4 good rounds and then Cotto will take over and stop him." Why can't people just say they are both two very talented fighters who have flaws and may the best fighter win ??? This is going to be a good fight why are these fans of both fighters acting like they hate each other and they want their fighter to win to prove something or something like that. I'd rather neither fans come across as assholes personally :-\

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Only most Zab fans come across as idiots and assholes when they say things like this Judah will turn up or that one. And most Judah fans are hypocritical too,I mean they whine like bitches when they talk about their other fighters like Raheem not getting a shot and Morales getting one, and now Judah,coming off a ridiculously poor record in the last few years is getting another shot at the big time but its' fine? Double standards,hypocrisy.

And believe you me,when Judah starts running his mouth and if he tries any tactics like he did v Baldo(punching him a the touching of gloves,calling him names,dissing him and just being an asshole),Cotto won't just sit back and take it.


Cotto has nowhere near as may flaws as Judah and is rapidly improving.

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Agree wholeheartedly. One thing Zab Judah is the furthest thing from being is well rounded. Cotto is a MUCH better all around fighter. When you have 4 losses to 4 different fighters with 4 distinctly different styles, that pretty much spells out what you are as a fighter: mediocre. Cotto will win decisively.

I expect Coto dominates Judah by KO in the late rounds (may be 8 -10). However, Coto has to be careful with Judah in the first rounds because he is still fast and punch hard. But, I think Judah will not be able to handle Coto's strength...

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I think you're talking too much as a fan of Cotto and not a fan of Judah. I think Cotto will pull through this fight, but just as people talk about "the versions of Zab that turn up" those picking against him also label it as an "he will have 4 good rounds and then Cotto will take over and stop him." Why can't people just say they are both two very talented fighters who have flaws and may the best fighter win ??? This is going to be a good fight why are these fans of both fighters acting like they hate each other and they want their fighter to win to prove something or something like that. I'd rather neither fans come across as assholes personally :-\

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Only most Zab fans come across as idiots and assholes when they say things like this Judah will turn up or that one. And most Judah fans are hypocritical too,I mean they whine like bitches when they talk about their other fighters like Raheem not getting a shot and Morales getting one, and now Judah,coming off a ridiculously poor record in the last few years is getting another shot at the big time but its' fine? Double standards,hypocrisy.

And believe you me,when Judah starts running his mouth and if he tries any tactics like he did v Baldo(punching him a the touching of gloves,calling him names,dissing him and just being an asshole),Cotto won't just sit back and take it.


Cotto has nowhere near as may flaws as Judah and is rapidly improving.

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I think they're both flawed fighters. Cotto has shown better against the opponents he's faced but he hasnt faced anyone on the level of the people Judah has lost to(except Baldomir) bad performances and going only by "losses"

The people Judah has lost to(except Baldomir) are a higher level then the people Cotto has fought for their respective weight classes. I guess you could compare Quintana to Spinks(but judah beat him in the rematch so should I count that one?)

But no Tszyu's or Mayweathers. So I think this fight will show what level Cotto is at, if he beats Judah then he's at the level(or shows he is) on or close to the level of a Tszyu or a Mayweather all depending on how he beats Judah. This is a very very pivotal fight for Cotto. If he beats Judah then nobody is going to question his opposition or say he beat washed up fighters and prospects who were taking a leap too soon(you havent heard this on the forum but I heard it every day from cotto haters). He beats Judah then there are no questions, Cotto's arrived and here to stay, but if he loses I don't think it will set him back any because everybody knows Judah is capable. But this is a fight that could launch Cotto UP THERE. As much as people will talk about Judah this is a fight for Cotto that will put him way way up there at the 147 tied with the winner of Margarito and Williams. Although the same can and will be said of Judah as much as people hate him. The winner of this fight will be launched, whether we like it or not. And it will be earned, so great respect to the winner of this fight and hopefully it will silence the haters on either side.


What I dont want, is an ending that people will be debating. I dont wnat Judah to be winning the fight easily and then Cotto land one punch that ends it for the night, because then the Cotto fans will say "Miguel was taking his time to catch Judah" and the Judah fans will say "Cotto got lucky he was getting exposed by Judah until that lucky punch, he' san overhyped such and such"

What I want to see is a clear victory by both of them. Even a close controversial decision would be good. What I dont want to see is an ending that leaves excuses either way.

You agree El Gamo?

All I keep reading is a bunch of nonsense.

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I think you're talking too much as a fan of Cotto and not a fan of Judah. I think Cotto will pull through this fight, but just as people talk about "the versions of Zab that turn up" those picking against him also label it as an "he will have 4 good rounds and then Cotto will take over and stop him." Why can't people just say they are both two very talented fighters who have flaws and may the best fighter win ??? This is going to be a good fight why are these fans of both fighters acting like they hate each other and they want their fighter to win to prove something or something like that. I'd rather neither fans come across as assholes personally :-\

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Only most Zab fans come across as idiots and assholes when they say things like this Judah will turn up or that one. And most Judah fans are hypocritical too,I mean they whine like bitches when they talk about their other fighters like Raheem not getting a shot and Morales getting one, and now Judah,coming off a ridiculously poor record in the last few years is getting another shot at the big time but its' fine? Double standards,hypocrisy.

And believe you me,when Judah starts running his mouth and if he tries any tactics like he did v Baldo(punching him a the touching of gloves,calling him names,dissing him and just being an asshole),Cotto won't just sit back and take it.


Cotto has nowhere near as may flaws as Judah and is rapidly improving.

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I think they're both flawed fighters. Cotto has shown better against the opponents he's faced but he hasnt faced anyone on the level of the people Judah has lost to(except Baldomir) bad performances and going only by "losses"

The people Judah has lost to(except Baldomir) are a higher level then the people Cotto has fought for their respective weight classes. I guess you could compare Quintana to Spinks(but judah beat him in the rematch so should I count that one?)

But no Tszyu's or Mayweathers. So I think this fight will show what level Cotto is at, if he beats Judah then he's at the level(or shows he is) on or close to the level of a Tszyu or a Mayweather all depending on how he beats Judah. This is a very very pivotal fight for Cotto. If he beats Judah then nobody is going to question his opposition or say he beat washed up fighters and prospects who were taking a leap too soon(you havent heard this on the forum but I heard it every day from cotto haters). He beats Judah then there are no questions, Cotto's arrived and here to stay, but if he loses I don't think it will set him back any because everybody knows Judah is capable. But this is a fight that could launch Cotto UP THERE. As much as people will talk about Judah this is a fight for Cotto that will put him way way up there at the 147 tied with the winner of Margarito and Williams. Although the same can and will be said of Judah as much as people hate him. The winner of this fight will be launched, whether we like it or not. And it will be earned, so great respect to the winner of this fight and hopefully it will silence the haters on either side.


What I dont want, is an ending that people will be debating. I dont wnat Judah to be winning the fight easily and then Cotto land one punch that ends it for the night, because then the Cotto fans will say "Miguel was taking his time to catch Judah" and the Judah fans will say "Cotto got lucky he was getting exposed by Judah until that lucky punch, he' san overhyped such and such"

What I want to see is a clear victory by both of them. Even a close controversial decision would be good. What I dont want to see is an ending that leaves excuses either way.

You agree El Gamo?

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LMFAO ! Cotto is going to beat this guy like a step child.. It will be chase chase chase for the first 3 or 4 rounds , then Zab will start to get sloppy and then Cotto will cash that judah check ! the moment Zab backs str8 up with his hands down , cotto will shuffle forward and smack Zab with the left hook and that’s all she wrote ! O0

Even though I had Judah ahead of Mayweather by the 6th I don't think he'll see it against Cotto. Quintana & Corley both southies didn't make it to the 6th but I could be a little biased, I'd like nothing more that to see Judah sparked in the 1st!! ;D

everyone here hates one of the two...


except for me


cotto is the fucking man but he can be hit and will be hit also he cant take the power judah has, he will get KTFO, but he will still be the man

This is a good fight for Cotto. Zab may be damaged goods but he still floats near the bottom ranks of the elite. If Cotto beats him convincingly that's great for Cotto and a death knell for Judah.

We all know that one of Zab's problems has been that he doesn't fight up to his potential all to often.

But what if he does when he faces Cotto - what if he's the Zab Judah many of us has said he could/should be?

Then Cotto will not be having an easy "stepping stone" walk in the garden.

If Zab comes in top form, then a loss for Cotto will be bad but not devastating.

A loss for Judah is devastating regardless of how well he fights.

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Originally Posted by smashcrusher

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I think you're talking too much as a fan of Cotto and not a fan of Judah. I think Cotto will pull through this fight, but just as people talk about "the versions of Zab that turn up" those picking against him also label it as an "he will have 4 good rounds and then Cotto will take over and stop him." Why can't people just say they are both two very talented fighters who have flaws and may the best fighter win ??? This is going to be a good fight why are these fans of both fighters acting like they hate each other and they want their fighter to win to prove something or something like that. I'd rather neither fans come across as assholes personally :-\

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Only most Zab fans come across as idiots and assholes when they say things like this Judah will turn up or that one. And most Judah fans are hypocritical too,I mean they whine like bitches when they talk about their other fighters like Raheem not getting a shot and Morales getting one, and now Judah,coming off a ridiculously poor record in the last few years is getting another shot at the big time but its' fine? Double standards,hypocrisy.

And believe you me,when Judah starts running his mouth and if he tries any tactics like he did v Baldo(punching him a the touching of gloves,calling him names,dissing him and just being an asshole),Cotto won't just sit back and take it.


Cotto has nowhere near as may flaws as Judah and is rapidly improving.

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Agree wholeheartedly. One thing Zab Judah is the furthest thing from being is well rounded. Cotto is a MUCH better all around fighter. When you have 4 losses to 4 different fighters with 4 distinctly different styles, that pretty much spells out what you are as a fighter: mediocre. Cotto will win decisively.

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How can you say that? Who has Cotto foughten that even comes close to comparing to any of the guys who have beaten Zab except maybe Baldomir, but even Baldomir's good chin and timing would give Cotto alot of problems IMO. Zab is way faster, and has foughten way way better competition, and he was labelled as the Mike Tyson of the smaller divisions. He is as quick as lighting and he hits hard. He is probably along with Roy Jones Jr. as gifted an athlete as boxing has ever seen. Unfortunately he has no focus... or he can't maintain it, but against fell glass-chin Cotto he may not have to.

Who did Ricky Hatton fight before Kostya that would make anyone think he even had a chance? No one, yet he won. And why? Because he was the better fighter. Out of the 4 people who beat Judah, Cotto only loses to one of them. And just think, in only a few months, the 4 losses from 4 different fighters will change to 5 losses to 5 different fighters ;D Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

everyone here hates one of the two...


except for me


cotto is the F****** man but he can be hit and will be hit also he cant take the power judah has, he will get KTFO, but he will still be the man

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No Sal. I'm actually a fan of both too. I know, I know we're a rare breed but I'm a little more Cotto fan than Zab. The reason being Cotto's commitment and focus and Zab's lack of both. I love Zab but he has let me down so that puts Cotto at the top of my list.

Hatton may have a win against Tszyu on his record but he certainly isn't the better fighter.
That's like saying Kirkland Laing is a better fighter than Roberto Duran.
Cotto v Judah will be close

8)

I think Cotto by KO/stoppage but he'll after get up off the canvas to do it

I think Cotto in a 12 round decision.

I'm rooting for Supa Judah though 8)