Williams vs. Cintron: Who do you have?(Poll)

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Originally Posted by CFH

For the record, I think Williams was coming on and would have probably won the fight if he didn't get caught, but I thought Cintron should have got the nod.

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Kermit Cintron was tagging him more when Paul Williams, was trying to be aggressive. Just because some people hate Kermit Cintron, for some of his antics in the ring. Doesn't mean he couldn't of won this fight, he was 3-0 up and having his best round of the fight.

once again, boxing is the theatre of the unexpected. ;D

is that the mexican anthem ???

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Originally Posted by Manju

if roger federer can't continue, the match goes to his opponant. why should boxing be different? Unless the opponant casued the injury with a foul, we shouldn't go to the scorecards.

reminds me of chavez-randall II a bit.

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In some ways I agree with that, I mean in other sports, injury would just eliminate you with a defeat.

That said however boxing is not like other sports. Federer will play 50 + matches in a single season, Cintron likely won't have 50 fights in his entire career.

A loss in boxing is so much more significant than in any other sport and therefore I think a no contest is the right result.

I wonder if it will be overturned on appeal? Probably not if that is the rules, but I hope they at least order a rematch. Cintron was looking good in there I thought. Like most others on here, I think he was never going to get the close rounds because of the bad taste the Martinez result left in the mouths of many.

Nobody really won that fight, so I don't know what you are all bickering about. It's a shame it goes to the cards like that because both fighters had a gameplan for 12, it doesn't prove anything for either fighter in going to the cards like that. A NC would be fairer, but seeing as Williams is the man who was opening up in the fourth and was ready to continue, I have no issue with him getting the nod. The only round I thought CIntron won was the first, but I was eating my lunch and just building into the fight myself.

fit bird singing the USA anthem

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Originally Posted by miles

Nobody really won that fight, so I don't know what you are all bickering about. It's a shame it goes to the cards like that because both fighters had a gameplan for 12, it doesn't prove anything for either fighter in going to the cards like that. A NC would be fairer, but seeing as Williams is the man who was opening up in the fourth and was ready to continue, I have no issue with him getting the nod. The only round I thought CIntron won was the first, but I was eating my lunch and just building into the fight myself.

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Maybe the judges were doing the same thing. :)

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Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood

Def should NOT have gone to cards...NC for both.Think Cintrons "rep" proceeds him here...rightfully or wrongly.No way Cintron was warming in there...Williams was coming on him hard

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You kidding ? Kermit Cintron was landing his best punches of the fight, he snapped Paul Williams head back. Paul Williams hasn't met anyone who can hit as hard as Kermit Cintron.

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No way I see Cintron winning that 2nd round...Williams was taking and coming forward but forcing pace.Cintron can crack but he was not selling out for it and was not going to out range Williams,he rolled outta ring no harder than a Benn,Rahman,Barbosa,Hopkins etc..Just saying.This was not a Cintron whitewash and body language speaks volumes

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Paul Williams did nothing in the first 3 rounds, and Kermit Cintron was constantly countering him. Paul Williams stepped it up in the last 20 seconds of the 3rd round, but he hit nothing except air.

In the 4th round he started out fast, and he got his head snapped back. By a hard right hand, and he was also clocked with some nice left hooks. Paul Williams would of got KTFO he wouldn't of been able to run, right through Kermit Cintron.

Sergio Martinez isn't a puncher, neither is Vernon Phillips, Winky Wright. Infact he's only met one puncher in his career Walter Dario Matthysse.

But he was mediocre and he didn't hit as hard as Kermit Cintron, im telling you now Paul Williams wouldn't of been able. To keep getting clocked trying to break down Kermit Cintron, there's a reason why he was so hesistant.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by CFH

Countered Williams effectively, reduced his workrate, won every round (maybe), displayed superior defense and ring generalship. You know, the things a fighter needs to do to win a fight. Actually, going by your post history I'd be surprised if you knew what a fighter needed to do to win a fight.

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OWNED !

Judges agree with me. Shows what you know

Ring generalship?! LOL . Find a new sport to follow

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Yeah, the judges always get the right scores :rolleyes:. And anyone who refused to acknowledge the accomplishments of Manny Pacquiao has no business telling anyone to "find a new sport to follow".

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. . . and anyone who thinks Cintron deserved a win after that pathetic display has no right to dismiss others knowledge of the sport.

It was a poor fight with a poor result. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by markb018

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Originally Posted by miles

Nobody really won that fight, so I don't know what you are all bickering about. It's a shame it goes to the cards like that because both fighters had a gameplan for 12, it doesn't prove anything for either fighter in going to the cards like that. A NC would be fairer, but seeing as Williams is the man who was opening up in the fourth and was ready to continue, I have no issue with him getting the nod. The only round I thought CIntron won was the first, but I was eating my lunch and just building into the fight myself.

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Maybe the judges were doing the same thing. :)

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Haha, wouldn't surprise me! ;D

Crap ending and like Bilbo said, it would be better if we get a quick rematch and have it settled properly. I still think Williams was only warming himself up.

Cintron won every round, then fell out of the ring and got hurt and somehow lost a decision.

That was bullshit. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by GAME

OWNED !

Judges agree with me. Shows what you know

Ring generalship?! LOL . Find a new sport to follow

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Yeah, the judges always get the right scores :rolleyes:. And anyone who refused to acknowledge the accomplishments of Manny Pacquiao has no business telling anyone to "find a new sport to follow".

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. . . and anyone who thinks Cintron deserved a win after that pathetic display has no right to dismiss others knowledge of the sport.

It was a poor fight with a poor result. Get over it.

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Almost everyone in the chat room, all well-respected members of this forum, felt Cintron won. So do many people in this thread. I don't think it was a "pathetic display" either, Cintron looked good.

As for getting over it, the result doesn't really bother me aside from the fact that I think it should have been a NC. It's ridiculous to go to the cards that early IMO.

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Originally Posted by markb018

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Originally Posted by miles

Nobody really won that fight, so I don't know what you are all bickering about. It's a shame it goes to the cards like that because both fighters had a gameplan for 12, it doesn't prove anything for either fighter in going to the cards like that. A NC would be fairer, but seeing as Williams is the man who was opening up in the fourth and was ready to continue, I have no issue with him getting the nod. The only round I thought CIntron won was the first, but I was eating my lunch and just building into the fight myself.

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Maybe the judges were doing the same thing. :)

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The sad thing is, somebody did win and loose that fight. The rules on how they went to the cards is a whole different issue. They had to have been doing something cause they weren't watching that fight, maybe they did judge it on what they though williams was going to do not the very little he really did do......sad

Terrible fight. Cintron had a good game plan, it was working, but then he fell out of the ring, onto the table. Then from the table to the ground he supposedly REALLY hurt his neck and back.

Good night everyone. If you feel cheated out of a fight, just remember, those in attendance got dicked even worse...

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by CFH

Yeah, the judges always get the right scores :rolleyes:. And anyone who refused to acknowledge the accomplishments of Manny Pacquiao has no business telling anyone to "find a new sport to follow".

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. . . and anyone who thinks Cintron deserved a win after that pathetic display has no right to dismiss others knowledge of the sport.

It was a poor fight with a poor result. Get over it.

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Almost everyone in the chat room, all well-respected members of this forum, felt Cintron won. So do many people in this thread. I don't think it was a "pathetic display" either, Cintron looked good.

As for getting over it, the result doesn't really bother me aside from the fact that I think it should have been a NC. It's ridiculous to go to the cards that early IMO.

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I think a NC would have been a fairer result too. It wasnt a great fight so I cant see much call for a rematch.