Calzaghe - Hopkins Predictions, RD by RD, Results FREE FOR ALL CHAT

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best poost inthis muthafuckking thread

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neg rep mate you know what i thought you would have been the first to give Joe his props but you proved what everyone else belived about you ;)

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i woulld. but joe no win. neg rep bac. me no caree if u is boss

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LOL :D

ok i'm off night guys made up for Joe ;)

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best poost inthis muthafuckking thread

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neg rep mate you know what i thought you would have been the first to give Joe his props but you proved what everyone else belived about you ;)

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i woulld. but joe no win. neg rep bac. me no caree if u is boss

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LOL you can hardly type/speak. At least you made it through the fight. You are so loyal you love your fighters and always stick by them. Thats worth some rep from me. Good on you dude.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Another Hopkins fight... yet another controversial decision that leaves a sour taste in many fans mouths. WTF? Can't we just once have a definitive victory from someone in a Hopkins fight?

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With his style, you'd probably have to KO him to win clearly. He's just great at what he does - which is screw up everyone's game plan.

Good show, though - both guys screwed up each other's game plans. That was the most rattled both of them have looked in quite awhile.

[quote=CutMeMick;502223]Dizaster I completely agree with your post.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I just vomitted in my mouth :rolleyes:.....:-XFuck Kellerman for doing A Jim Grey and pounding his chest through Hopkins about low blow...dedicated assclown

Thanks for the Memories Bernard Hopkins.The doubters can bite pillow with a grimace

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Spicoli, come on man.
Max did good there, Hopkins is always the mouthy one this time he was put on the spot.


[quote=bikersk;502192]Mick...Hope this shows/post right.Im all for a guy putting an Interviewee on the spot...tough fighter can handle tough questions,but he was (Max) was questioning a fact, the blow may not have been hard but it was below the belt....and yeh Hopkins deservves an Oscar for preformance but An experienced guy takes advantage of oppurtunities and CAlzaghe (And Cortez the camera hog)afforded him that chance.Just my Opinion ,I feel ya though

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Another Hopkins fight... yet another controversial decision that leaves a sour taste in many fans mouths. WTF? Can't we just once have a definitive victory from someone in a Hopkins fight?

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With his style, you'd probably have to KO him to win clearly. He's just great at what he does - which is screw up everyone's game plan.

Good show, though - both guys screwed up each other's game plans. That was the most rattled both of them have looked in quite awhile.

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Yes I agree to me it was a tense fight always in the balance, and both guys were doing their best, to me that makes a good fight even if it's a bit scrappy due to the styles. I loved it.

From Cardiff and thought B Hop won. At least my TV still going to be working tomorrow:/

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Originally Posted by JamieFo

From Cardiff and thought B Hop won. At least my TV still going to be working tomorrow:/

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HOW did hopkins win?

look, even that IDIOT kevin iole had it for hopkins



Hopkins-Calzaghe round-by-round - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

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DECISION: Yahoo! Sports has it 114-113 for Bernard Hopkins

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

look, even that IDIOT kevin iole had it for hopkins



Hopkins-Calzaghe round-by-round - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

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DECISION: Yahoo! Sports has it 114-113 for Bernard Hopkins

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Ok well i must admit i was busy doing my VERY drunken rbr and sms'ing my brother so i'll have to review the rbr i did and the fight again but the guys who really do know what they are talking about on this forum thought Joe won the fight so you have to give that some cred.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

look, even that IDIOT kevin iole had it for hopkins



Hopkins-Calzaghe round-by-round - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

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DECISION: Yahoo! Sports has it 114-113 for Bernard Hopkins

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One judge had it Hopkins, two Calzaghe.

It was a close fight. If all three had it Hopkins - that would have been a joke.

We all know who landed the most punches and it wasn't Hopkins. To be fair Hopkins landed the bigger punches in the first half of the fight - Calzaghe in the later rounds.

Will need to watch again tomorrow after 3rd round i thought Hop had him screwed by making him fight his fight. Joe looked weaker than he is at SM, those punches really looked like nothing in first 6 rounds compared to hop. I'm JC fan but gave rounds to hop just bc i expected a much diff fight, drank a lot btw so will watch sober tomorrow to score again.

This was always going to be the big issue for Hopkins in this fight, and that was dealing with Calzaghe's workrate, and although he started out well, he showed his 43 years in the second half of the fight and just wasn't able to keep up with Joe for full rounds.

Despite two breaks for alleged "low blows" of which hopkins milked in order to get a break, he still didn't have the energy to land enough to claim rounds, and Calzaghe took it fair and square.

And as for the "idiot" Kevin Iole on Yahoo Sports....there may be a reason he'ds not got a more high profile role for this evenings entertainment....like not being able to call the winner.... ;;)

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

This was always going to be the big issue for Hopkins in this fight, and that was dealing with Calzaghe's workrate, and although he started out well, he showed his 43 years in the second half of the fight and just wasn't able to keep up with Joe for full rounds.

Despite two breaks for alleged "low blows" of which hopkins milked in order to get a break, he still didn't have the energy to land enough to claim rounds, and Calzaghe took it fair and square.

And as for the "idiot" Kevin Iole on Yahoo Sports....there may be a reason he'ds not got a more high profile role for this evenings entertainment....like not being able to call the winner.... ;;)

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And being known as the idiot.

Did you all have JC winning, hope so im probly just being pessimistic

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Originally Posted by JamieFo

Will need to watch again tomorrow after 3rd round i thought Hop had him screwed by making him fight his fight. Joe looked weaker than he is at SM, those punches really looked like nothing in first 6 rounds compared to hop. I'm JC fan but gave rounds to hop just bc i expected a much diff fight, drank a lot btw so will watch sober tomorrow to score again.

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Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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Will need to watch again tomorrow after 3rd round i thought Hop had him screwed by making him fight his fight. Joe looked weaker than he is at SM, those punches really looked like nothing in first 6 rounds compared to hop. I'm JC fan but gave rounds to hop just bc i expected a much diff fight, drank a lot btw so will watch sober tomorrow to score again.

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Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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thats how it works in the amateurs...


not in the professional rankings

Ok i guess it depends of the judges.

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Will need to watch again tomorrow after 3rd round i thought Hop had him screwed by making him fight his fight. Joe looked weaker than he is at SM, those punches really looked like nothing in first 6 rounds compared to hop. I'm JC fan but gave rounds to hop just bc i expected a much diff fight, drank a lot btw so will watch sober tomorrow to score again.

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Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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thats how it works in the amateurs...


not in the professional rankings

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That may be somewhat true, but volume of punches landed still plays a part even in the professional rankings. Otherwise, there would be no need for scoring fights - just let the fighters go at it until one of em falls down and can't get up.

No doesn't. 1 punch counts for 1 point. Only difference is the standing 8 and knock-downs. Doesn't mean a 10-8 in the amateurs like it does in the pros's. Then there is ring general ship, which Joe showed more of.

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Originally Posted by JamieFo

Will need to watch again tomorrow after 3rd round i thought Hop had him screwed by making him fight his fight. Joe looked weaker than he is at SM, those punches really looked like nothing in first 6 rounds compared to hop. I'm JC fan but gave rounds to hop just bc i expected a much diff fight, drank a lot btw so will watch sober tomorrow to score again.

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Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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thats how it works in the amateurs...


not in the professional rankings

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No doesn't. 1 punch counts for 1 point. Only difference is the standing 8 and knock-downs. Doesn't mean a 10-8 in the amateurs like it does in the pros's. Then there is ring general ship, which Joe showed more of.

Joe looked good in last 5-6 rounds ( 1 of which hop sneaked by low blow crap rest which think he would have lost otherwise) but with knockdown in 1st and joe fought wrong fight 1st half. Fought to tense and square at start.

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Originally Posted by JamieFo

Joe looked good in last 5-6 rounds ( 1 of which hop sneaked by low blow crap rest which think he would have lost otherwise) but with knockdown in 1st and joe fought wrong fight 1st half. Fought to tense and square at start.

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Yes you are right there but i think he settled at around round 4 or 5.

Just went over my rbr posts. Joe won on my reckoning.

Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.[/quote]


wtf i'd rather hit somebody 1 time and almost knock them out then get hit 10 times with punches that don't hurt in a real fight damage wins the fight

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Originally Posted by 2hitz

Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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wtf i'd rather hit somebody 1 time and almost knock them out then get hit 10 times with punches that don't hurt in a real fight damage wins the fight[/quote]

Sorry dude it doesn't work like that. Even if you hit someone hard and almost ko them like in this fight it doesn't matter. You have to land the KO to win. Otherwise like in this fight the guy who lands more clean punches wins.

I give hopkins credit for his fighting ability.

I was worried when calzaghe went down, it was on his nose and not chin and he got up immeadiately but it was a great test for joe.

Hopkins showed that he is a great counter puncher with probably his best performance in a long time.

However the dirtyness from hopkins was a joke, the claiming of low blows was pathetic when everyone saw it wasnt a low blow. The use of the head was pathetic, immense clinching made for an ugly fight...he really did try everything in the book (or, not allowed in the book, to win). I didnt like this aspect of it AT ALL!

However as a true champ, calzaghes class came through at the end, bar the 9th, the last 6 rounds were all calzaghe, hopkins only took the 9th because of the rest he forced (by cheating) when it clearly was not a low blow.

I dont like cortez' referring though, it was too leanient towards hopkins who constantly broke the rules by use of the head. BUT I MUST SAY that i have respect for cortez in that he saw that hopkins was cheating and did not deduct a point for the 'pretend low blow'.

All in all on my scorecard it was as follows.

1. hop 10,8
2. hop
3. hop
4. calz
5. calz
6. calz
7. draw
8. calz
9. hop
10. calz
11. calz
12. calz

Giving the overall decission to calzaghe by 115, 113

The judges decissions were all over the place, only 1 got it right i thought, 115, 113 to calzaghe.

Dont know how the others gave it 114,113 bhop and 116,11 calzaghe.

In summary calzaghe showed his champ ability to work out hopkins (something very very difficult to do), he went down in first round from some great boxing by bernard but claz forced his way back into the fight by workrate and managing to plant the most punches on bhop that anyone has ever done before.

Of course there will be doubters but any legitimate boxing fan knows that calzaghe is the real deal, he got knocked down in the first only to come back and start dicatating against the great hopkins.

Respect to both fighters, but the champ won on the day. It was in the later rounds where i knew bhop was gone because calzaghe rocked him with a good combo, i thought bhop was gonna go down if joe hit him a few more times, probably stay down, but bhop managed to clinch (suprise suprise lol)...it was clear that whilst his philly style and defense/counter was top class, joe started dicatating the fight and adaopted later on to bring his game in, hopkins trid every dirty trick but calzaghe was just too good for him.

Calzaghe to fight jones next and beat him (either in millenium stadium, madison square or vegas), then in his final fight beat pavlik (in vegas) and then retire totally unbeaten 47, 0 A true cut above the rest:)

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Originally Posted by 2hitz

Doesn't really matter how hard they land, as long as you land more you get the win.

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wtf i'd rather hit somebody 1 time and almost knock them out then get hit 10 times with punches that don't hurt in a real fight damage wins the fight

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Sorry dude it doesn't work like that. Even if you hit someone hard and almost ko them like in this fight it doesn't matter. You have to land the KO to win. Otherwise like in this fight the guy who lands more clean punches wins.[/quote]


ok one guy hits 100 clean punches the other guy hits 2 punches and on knocks him out who wins? those 100 clean punch are worth what? ok very exaggerated but this is my point

There's no way Joe lost that fight. After the early rounds,Joe took over. B Hop was being backed up,against the ropes,against hiswill. Joe threw more,landed more and was the agressor.B Hop's game plan was to stay in the middle of the ring,when he did that,he did well. He stopped doing that,stopped throwing punches and lost.Period. And I thought B Hop going down from the phnatom low blow was a joke lol!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

There's no way Joe lost that fight. After the early rounds,Joe took over. B Hop was being backed up,against the ropes,against hiswill. Joe threw more,landed more and was the agressor.B Hop's game plan was to stay in the middle of the ring,when he did that,he did well. He stopped doing that,stopped throwing punches and lost.Period. And I thought B Hop going down from the phnatom low blow was a joke lol!

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Well said. If it was a 4 rounder then, yes, BHop took it hands down. But it was over 12 and Joe adjusted well. Any lesser fighter could have crumbled after a start like that. I really dont get any of this nonsense talking about robberies here. Calzaghe came on as a champion should.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

There's no way Joe lost that fight. After the early rounds,Joe took over. B Hop was being backed up,against the ropes,against hiswill. Joe threw more,landed more and was the agressor.B Hop's game plan was to stay in the middle of the ring,when he did that,he did well. He stopped doing that,stopped throwing punches and lost.Period. And I thought B Hop going down from the phnatom low blow was a joke lol!

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Good post mate:)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

There's no way Joe lost that fight. After the early rounds,Joe took over. B Hop was being backed up,against the ropes,against hiswill. Joe threw more,landed more and was the agressor.B Hop's game plan was to stay in the middle of the ring,when he did that,he did well. He stopped doing that,stopped throwing punches and lost.Period. And I thought B Hop going down from the phnatom low blow was a joke lol!

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Good post mate:)

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It was a close, sloppy fight on both sides, but I thought Joe won. Bernard did well for the first half, but his "clean, effective" punches were fewer and more far between as the fight went on. Frankly, I thought Bernard deserved to lose just for that phantom low blow BS. Way to act like a true champion Bernard. :rolleyes: Somebody criticized Kellerman for taking him to task for that, but I think somebody had to do it. Why do people think that these dirty fighters shouldn't be held accountable for that crap?

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It was a close, sloppy fight on both sides, but I thought Joe won. Bernard did well for the first half, but his "clean, effective" punches were fewer and more far between as the fight went on. Frankly, I thought Bernard deserved to lose just for that phantom low blow BS. Way to act like a true champion Bernard. :rolleyes: Somebody criticized Kellerman for taking him to task for that, but I think somebody had to do it. Why do people think that these dirty fighters shouldn't be held accountable for that crap?

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Well said bro, that crap was disgraceful in my view, the shot was nowhere near the place down there where it really hurt, but i think Joe let his frustration with his shenanigans there too. Neither came out of that incident particularly well, but I agree that the question had to be asked.

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It was a close, sloppy fight on both sides, but I thought Joe won. Bernard did well for the first half, but his "clean, effective" punches were fewer and more far between as the fight went on. Frankly, I thought Bernard deserved to lose just for that phantom low blow BS. Way to act like a true champion Bernard. :rolleyes: Somebody criticized Kellerman for taking him to task for that, but I think somebody had to do it. Why do people think that these dirty fighters shouldn't be held accountable for that crap?

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Well said bro, that crap was disgraceful in my view, the shot was nowhere near the place down there where it really hurt, but i think Joe let his frustration with his shenanigans there too. Neither came out of that incident particularly well, but I agree that the question had to be asked.

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Yup. If anything, Bernard should have given Joe a kiss after that "low blow" seeing as it was more like a tickle than a punch. I'll bet the Nard was secretly aroused. :o

After just watching the replay, I have to say that neither guy impressed me that much. I thought Joe barely squeaked out the W but he looked pretty bad doing it. He could have let his hands go a lot more to win decisively but he seemed a bit gunshy. Bernard was Bernard, he did what he does. As it is, I wouldn't call it a robbery, but I think a draw wouldn't have been inconceivable either.

I had Joe winning but I just don't like the pitty pat punches. The pro's score clean EFFECTIVE punches those didn't look effective to me. That is the thing about boxing it's all perception, I can see how someone scored it for B-Hop, his punches were fewer but by far more effective. Hopkins did himself in he could have won if he threw caution to the wind. Unless Joe's punches really were hurting him, which would be deceptive because it didn't look that way to me. RJJ may be a better fight to watch because Roy is more offensive minded.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

There's no way Joe lost that fight. After the early rounds,Joe took over. B Hop was being backed up,against the ropes,against hiswill. Joe threw more,landed more and was the agressor.B Hop's game plan was to stay in the middle of the ring,when he did that,he did well. He stopped doing that,stopped throwing punches and lost.Period. And I thought B Hop going down from the phnatom low blow was a joke lol!

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Good post mate:)

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Double ditto Gamo.

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Originally Posted by LondonBB

I give hopkins credit for his fighting ability.

I was worried when calzaghe went down, it was on his nose and not chin and he got up immeadiately but it was a great test for joe.

Hopkins showed that he is a great counter puncher with probably his best performance in a long time.

However the dirtyness from hopkins was a joke, the claiming of low blows was pathetic when everyone saw it wasnt a low blow. The use of the head was pathetic, immense clinching made for an ugly fight...he really did try everything in the book (or, not allowed in the book, to win). I didnt like this aspect of it AT ALL!

However as a true champ, calzaghes class came through at the end, bar the 9th, the last 6 rounds were all calzaghe, hopkins only took the 9th because of the rest he forced (by cheating) when it clearly was not a low blow.

I dont like cortez' referring though, it was too leanient towards hopkins who constantly broke the rules by use of the head. BUT I MUST SAY that i have respect for cortez in that he saw that hopkins was cheating and did not deduct a point for the 'pretend low blow'.

All in all on my scorecard it was as follows.

1. hop 10,8
2. hop
3. hop
4. calz
5. calz
6. calz
7. draw
8. calz
9. hop
10. calz
11. calz
12. calz

Giving the overall decission to calzaghe by 115, 113

The judges decissions were all over the place, only 1 got it right i thought, 115, 113 to calzaghe.

Dont know how the others gave it 114,113 bhop and 116,11 calzaghe.

In summary calzaghe showed his champ ability to work out hopkins (something very very difficult to do), he went down in first round from some great boxing by bernard but claz forced his way back into the fight by workrate and managing to plant the most punches on bhop that anyone has ever done before.

Of course there will be doubters but any legitimate boxing fan knows that calzaghe is the real deal, he got knocked down in the first only to come back and start dicatating against the great hopkins.

Respect to both fighters, but the champ won on the day. It was in the later rounds where i knew bhop was gone because calzaghe rocked him with a good combo, i thought bhop was gonna go down if joe hit him a few more times, probably stay down, but bhop managed to clinch (suprise suprise lol)...it was clear that whilst his philly style and defense/counter was top class, joe started dicatating the fight and adaopted later on to bring his game in, hopkins trid every dirty trick but calzaghe was just too good for him.

Calzaghe to fight jones next and beat him (either in millenium stadium, madison square or vegas), then in his final fight beat pavlik (in vegas) and then retire totally unbeaten 47, 0 A true cut above the rest:)

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Superb!
Joe is a living legend:cool:

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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it sickens me how people think that tapping someones back and flailing ur wrists at someone like an autistic seizure is landing punches

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I suppose hardly throwing any punches at all scores more does it?

Tool :rolleyes:

Good b-Hop no more I have to hear form you BYEEEE!!!

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OK really pleased with how this thread went should use this format all the time ;)

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