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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

the thing is dirrell held like mad! I agree froch looked bad but i had it even, i just cant give a round to a man who lands 4 punches and then holds so he cant be hit. I thinbk bit of a dodgy decision but i had it even

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What a load of biased shit. I cant give a man a win who doesnt land 4 punches the whole night. Even? Idiot.

WTF?! His Grandaddy told him that he needed a knock out going into the last?!!

What fight was he watching!

What fight was i watching.... Fuk i mconfused :confused: :-\

dirrell is very very humble, all credit to him. He will gain alot more fans from that speech than any trash talk. All props to him, and i think he will beat abraham!

I wouldn't call it a robbery, but from a judges perspective I would be less inclined to give someone a round for holding as much as he did.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think you guys are overestimating the 'robbery'

The first 8 or 9 rounds ok Froch looked awkward but what did Dirrell do apart from dodge punches?

It WAS a close fight imo, kind of like the first Sam Peter James Toney fight.

Dirrell was techinically much better and landed the better shots, but about three quarters of the fight was Froch pressing which obviosly is worth something.

The point was bullshit though, not sure if that affected the scores, I dont think it does as Froch had two 115-113 but it shouldnt have happened.

Dirrell can leave feeling he gave a good performance but too timid, Froch needs to work on a LOT though and can count himself very lucky tonight.

Dirrell is a CLASS ACT in the post fight interview though, I really hope he can bounce back from this.

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What rounds did you score for Froch?

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Originally Posted by CFH

Robbery of the year?

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So far, YES !!!

I thought Dirrell won this close.Froch sat ouside and pizzed it away with a guy who looks tagable.Only thing worse than a fleet of foot guy is one who who proves he can hurt opponent but waits all night and keeps his hands in his pockets.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think Dirrell certainly looked the more skilful, Froch was ungainly and awkward.

But Froch did all the pressing and Dirrell looked laughably scared at times leaping out the way and holding.

I can see the judges might be divided like in Toney Peter 1, some favouring the better punches from Dirrell and others

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yea that must be it :rolleyes: the fact that it was in Froch's hometown had no role in the decision what so ever :rolleyes: guess they were just into rabbit punches and holding and hitting :rolleyes:

fuck Carl "The Fraud" Froch and fuck Andre "Sea-Biscuit" Dirrell, both fought like bitches especially given the magnitude of the attention given to the tourney everyone involved in this "fight" should be ashamed, fucking robbery, sorry but Dirrell fought like a bitch and Froch fought like a dirty fucker, fuck them both and i'm looking forward to seeing them get knocked the fuck out

Abraham will murder Froch if they fight.

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

dirrell is very very humble, all credit to him. He will gain alot more fans from that speech than any trash talk. All props to him, and i think he will beat abraham!

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Humble ???

He actually thinks he lost..!

Wierd fight.

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

I'll take Abraham by rd 7 KO & Froch by squeky SD decision.

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Pacstradamus strike again!!!

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by The Rela

Good decision.

Some might like runners and huggers.

I don't.

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You must not like rules either. Or scoring. Why bother even having them and just give the fight to what and who we prefer and save a lot of time without stepping in the ring.

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There was only one person who wanted to fight seriously.

Hey, if you like the way Dirrel fights, that's fine.

Personally, I like boxing, not cycling, running or wrestling.

It's a fight.

Froch is an asshole.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

the thing is dirrell held like mad! I agree froch looked bad but i had it even, i just cant give a round to a man who lands 4 punches and then holds so he cant be hit. I thinbk bit of a dodgy decision but i had it even

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What a load of biased shit. I cant give a man a win who doesnt land 4 punches the whole night. Even? Idiot.

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ok then if dirrell gets a point taken for holding in every round because he HELD ALOT and no one will disagree even if you think he won. But yes if dirrell gets a point taken off every round for holding then i will score it even because dirrell landed more. For the record i think dirrell is a far better fighter but didnt do enough to take a champs belt by holding etc

Froch was the only one hurt in this fight, Dirrells reflexes were spot on. Watch any of the highlights during this fight they all belonged to Andre. Very unfair.

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Originally Posted by The Rela

It's a fight.

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No, it's a boxing match. And Direll showed MUCH better boxing skills throughout the match.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by The Rela

Good decision.

Some might like runners and huggers.

I don't.

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Swing and miss is more your style, huh?

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To be fair, Froch probably landed over 50% of the 4,000 rabbit punches that he threw to the back of Dirrell's head.

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Rabbit punches? That would be when Dirrel was holding and turned his head because he didn't want to fight.

If this was not a tourney....second -third oppurtunities...Dirrell would have went fooking nuts in interview.Wheres the fire ???

I like Froch, but Dirrell won that fight. Froch barely landed! Dirrell was hitting him with way sharper punches throughout most of the fight. Froch had some moments in the middle, but generally, it was a great performance from Dirrell.

And if I hear the phrase "You must take a title from a champion" again, I'm going to start cracking skulls. You take the title by winning more rounds, which involves landing more and taking less, just like in any normal match. I simply cannot believe the stupidity of people who use that primitive statement to cover up a bad decision.
Does it state in the rulebook that judges have to naturally favour the champion when scoring? No. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by CFH

I really feel for Dirrell here. This is a terrible decision. I was cheering for Froch, but he should be embarrassed to get the win here.

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Really? Dirrell did alot of running and holding. I'm not sure you can win a world title on fantastic defence. Froch didn't do much either. I don't think you could complain either way. It was close in that nothing fucking happened.

seriously...


frotch is either a moron or an ultimate scumbag...



''im gonna hit him on the back of the head... not illegally'


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also...



http://www.boxingvid.com/wp-content/...io_tarver1.jpg
"SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON CROTCH"

Exactly, its a fight. The guy who lands the most punches should win. Wait.

Hahahahaha!!

What a joke, Primetime just said Froch came on strong after 5 rounds then showed some highlights of Froch hitting air!!

This is boxing, yes Dirrell was negative he was holding but thats the refs job to sort it out not the judges, Dirrell landed all the meaningful punches even wobbled Froch, Froch was clueless.

I had Froch winning three rounds 2 drawn rounds and Dirrell taking 7.

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

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Originally Posted by The Rela

It's a fight.

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No, it's a boxing match. And Direll showed MUCH better boxing skills throughout the match.

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Fair enough. I guess it's whatever style you like.

But if Direll fighted a similar style boxer, I wouldn't be shelling out for PPV!

I hate to say it but Froch makes a good point.

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

the thing is dirrell held like mad! I agree froch looked bad but i had it even, i just cant give a round to a man who lands 4 punches and then holds so he cant be hit. I thinbk bit of a dodgy decision but i had it even

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What a load of biased shit. I cant give a man a win who doesnt land 4 punches the whole night. Even? Idiot.

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ok then if dirrell gets a point taken for holding in every round because he HELD ALOT and no one will disagree even if you think he won. But yes if dirrell gets a point taken off every round for holding then i will score it even because dirrell landed more. For the record i think dirrell is a far better fighter but didnt do enough to take a champs belt by holding etc

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Well what about Frochs rabbit punching. You gonna take points off for that?

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Originally Posted by The Rela

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Originally Posted by The Rela

Good decision.

Some might like runners and huggers.

I don't.

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You must not like rules either. Or scoring. Why bother even having them and just give the fight to what and who we prefer and save a lot of time without stepping in the ring.

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There was only one person who wanted to fight seriously.

Hey, if you like the way Dirrel fights, that's fine.

Personally, I like boxing, not cycling, running or wrestling.

It's a fight.

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Yea it'sa fight, and Froch got outboxed, all fight. Whether he is going forward or backwards, he still outlanded and outboxed consistantly more. Trying to rewrite the rules of boxing as Froch is trying suggest...'this is what the fans wanted to see'...is that how it goes? well, yea, they are homers, ofc they want him to win. Try asking the fans around the world.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I really feel for Dirrell here. This is a terrible decision. I was cheering for Froch, but he should be embarrassed to get the win here.

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Really? Dirrell did alot of running and holding. I'm not sure you can win a world title on fantastic defence. Froch didn't do much either. I don't think you could complain either way. It was close in that nothing fucking happened.

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It was an awful fight, but that's what happens with fighters like Direll.

I should know, I've sat through a lot of Junior Witter fights.

Ha ha!!

"Usually, my hands hurt after a fight"

Thats because Carl, you are too slow and at 32 you arent getting any quicker, I thought Taylor and Dirrell were the weakest of the lot but going by this and how Taylor dropped him he will be having a few sleapless nights about the rest of the tournament.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think you guys are overestimating the 'robbery'

The first 8 or 9 rounds ok Froch looked awkward but what did Dirrell do apart from dodge punches?

It WAS a close fight imo, kind of like the first Sam Peter James Toney fight.

Dirrell was techinically much better and landed the better shots, but about three quarters of the fight was Froch pressing which obviosly is worth something.

The point was bullshit though, not sure if that affected the scores, I dont think it does as Froch had two 115-113 but it shouldnt have happened.

Dirrell can leave feeling he gave a good performance but too timid, Froch needs to work on a LOT though and can count himself very lucky tonight.

Dirrell is a CLASS ACT in the post fight interview though, I really hope he can bounce back from this.

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What rounds did you score for Froch?

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I didn't score it on a round by round but I never felt any rounds were really decisive.

I think there is a lot of Froch hate on the boards and a lot of attention on his ugly fighting style and looking awkward against fast, slick opponents.

He certainly DID look awkward and missed wildly at time but at the same time Froch made the fight. He was constantly coming forward and throwing punches, and Dirrell mostly dodged and held on. He only came back with anything later in the fight, the championship rounds.

Let me ask you this, if one fighter comes forward for a whole round, throws punches and misses, but the other fighter doesn't come forward at all, and just dodged, who wins the round?

That is the question really, yes Dirrell made Froch look bad at times but he didn't do anything offensively himself in most of the rounds.

In such cases I guess two of the judges went for the fighter who was at least pressing the action and throwing punches.

I don't think it was a robbery, I think it could have gone either way.

Dirrell was a class act after the fight, Froch did what every puncher did after the fight and blamed his erratic style on his opponent's running.

Clearly the commentators, the judges and the other ringside reporters judging all scored it a very very close fight.

Opinions on here tend to be biased a bit and I think people have overreacted a bit on the robbery.

If Dirrell would have won it would have been totally fair though as well. Close fight.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think you guys are overestimating the 'robbery'

The first 8 or 9 rounds ok Froch looked awkward but what did Dirrell do apart from dodge punches?

It WAS a close fight imo, kind of like the first Sam Peter James Toney fight.

Dirrell was techinically much better and landed the better shots, but about three quarters of the fight was Froch pressing which obviosly is worth something.

The point was bullshit though, not sure if that affected the scores, I dont think it does as Froch had two 115-113 but it shouldnt have happened.

Dirrell can leave feeling he gave a good performance but too timid, Froch needs to work on a LOT though and can count himself very lucky tonight.

Dirrell is a CLASS ACT in the post fight interview though, I really hope he can bounce back from this.

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A perfect example of why computer scoring wouldn't work even by your standards. No way Froch outlanded Dirrell.

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by The Rela

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

You must not like rules either. Or scoring. Why bother even having them and just give the fight to what and who we prefer and save a lot of time without stepping in the ring.

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There was only one person who wanted to fight seriously.

Hey, if you like the way Dirrel fights, that's fine.

Personally, I like boxing, not cycling, running or wrestling.

It's a fight.

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Yea it'sa fight, and Froch got outboxed, all fight. Whether he is going forward or backwards, he still outlanded and outboxed consistantly more. Trying to rewrite the rules of boxing as Froch is trying suggest...'this is what the fans wanted to see'...is that how it goes? well, yea, they are homers, ofc they want him to win. Try asking the fans around the world.

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Hold on? You want to see either of them fight like that again? That was an awful fight.

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

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Originally Posted by eagle

What a load of biased shit. I cant give a man a win who doesnt land 4 punches the whole night. Even? Idiot.

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ok then if dirrell gets a point taken for holding in every round because he HELD ALOT and no one will disagree even if you think he won. But yes if dirrell gets a point taken off every round for holding then i will score it even because dirrell landed more. For the record i think dirrell is a far better fighter but didnt do enough to take a champs belt by holding etc

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Well what about Frochs rabbit punching. You gonna take points off for that?

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the rabbit punches were a result of the holding - if the holding wasnt there they wouldnt of occured. i agree froch fought like someone from fucking ufc in there lol but the referee did not do his job properly - yes he broke them up reasonably well but you have to take points off eventually and it would of been ridiculous if he had taken off points against froch if he wasnt for dirrells holding.

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by The Rela

There was only one person who wanted to fight seriously.

Hey, if you like the way Dirrel fights, that's fine.

Personally, I like boxing, not cycling, running or wrestling.

It's a fight.

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Yea it'sa fight, and Froch got outboxed, all fight. Whether he is going forward or backwards, he still outlanded and outboxed consistantly more. Trying to rewrite the rules of boxing as Froch is trying suggest...'this is what the fans wanted to see'...is that how it goes? well, yea, they are homers, ofc they want him to win. Try asking the fans around the world.

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Hold on? You want to see either of them fight like that again? That was an awful fight.

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what point are you trying to make? how does if it was a good fight or not affect who should win it?

Showtime boxing is the biggest joke of all time! Their the reason MMA is drawing a bigger crowd than boxing these days! First of all, I myself am an arkansan and I hope that Jermain never shows his face on T.V. again. What a joke! How do you go from dethroning BERNARD HOPKINS twice to losing to freakin froch and queen arther by knockout? I'll tell you how, you got rid of pat burns the trainer that got you the belts in the first place you freakin moron! But for those anouncers to act like Abraham was winning the fight before the knockout.....well.... they must have been bent over the bed rails getin it from some nazis the night before! And my word dont even get me started on the Froch Dirrell fight! That was a classic case of (lets keep our undefeated fighter undefeated)! Likewise those judges must have been on their knees the night before getting their feel of English spotted dick! Im sorry im just so ticked at showtime right now! This is exactly why they will always be second behind HBO. I sincerly hope by some miracle that showtime goes bankrubt!

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by The Rela

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

You must not like rules either. Or scoring. Why bother even having them and just give the fight to what and who we prefer and save a lot of time without stepping in the ring.

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There was only one person who wanted to fight seriously.

Hey, if you like the way Dirrel fights, that's fine.

Personally, I like boxing, not cycling, running or wrestling.

It's a fight.

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Yea it'sa fight, and Froch got outboxed, all fight. Whether he is going forward or backwards, he still outlanded and outboxed consistantly more. Trying to rewrite the rules of boxing as Froch is trying suggest...'this is what the fans wanted to see'...is that how it goes? well, yea, they are homers, ofc they want him to win. Try asking the fans around the world.

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Jeez, seriously, Direll's defence was great, but holding constantly and running isn't what I would call consistently outboxing an opponent.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Froch was great in any way. Dirrel had a spoiler plan and did a good job.

But I won't be buying Direl's back catelogue of fights any time soon.

Hey props to froch...a win is a win. I'd cash that check not blink an eye and dream about beating kessler. But holy shit even my kid said how do you win when a you throw the other guy down and they take a point of your opponet and b when you land half as many punches and half of them are illegal. Whatever direll's bad for letting it go to the cards in another country, and we learn boxing should just be for k.o. 's cause decisions are worth about as much as these cheeseburgers I'm about to flush. Good fights the both if them got my money's worth

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Originally Posted by oakleyno1

ok then if dirrell gets a point taken for holding in every round because he HELD ALOT and no one will disagree even if you think he won. But yes if dirrell gets a point taken off every round for holding then i will score it even because dirrell landed more. For the record i think dirrell is a far better fighter but didnt do enough to take a champs belt by holding etc

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Well what about Frochs rabbit punching. You gonna take points off for that?

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the rabbit punches were a result of the holding - if the holding wasnt there they wouldnt of occured. i agree froch fought like someone from fucking ufc in there lol but the referee did not do his job properly - yes he broke them up reasonably well but you have to take points off eventually and it would of been ridiculous if he had taken off points against froch if he wasnt for dirrells holding.

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No it wouldnt have been as ridiculous as warning Froch yet not taking points then deducting Dirrel after no warnings. The refereeing and judgung were ridiculously biased and only an idiot would see it any other way.

I can't wait until the next round when Froch has to fight Kessler. Kessler will really expose him.

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Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

Showtime boxing is the biggest joke of all time! Their the reason MMA is drawing a bigger crowd than boxing these days! First of all, I myself am an arkansan and I hope that Jermain never shows his face on T.V. again. What a joke! How do you go from dethroning BERNARD HOPKINS twice to losing to freakin froch and queen arther by knockout? I'll tell you how, you got rid of pat burns the trainer that got you the belts in the first place you freakin moron! But for those anouncers to act like Abraham was winning the fight before the knockout.....well.... they must have been bent over the bed rails getin it from some nazis the night before! And my word dont even get me started on the Froch Dirrell fight! That was a classic case of (lets keep our undefeated fighter undefeated)! Likewise those judges must have been on their knees the night before getting their feel of English spotted dick! Im sorry im just so ticked at showtime right now! This is exactly why they will always be second behind HBO. I sincerly hope by some miracle that showtime goes bankrubt!

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