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Fuck off BrockQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
Maybe make sure of things than blame others like a cop, twice now thanks. Bilbo-Baal-Brock-Frodo-et alQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzFuck off BrockQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
He gets a touch paranoid. Don't mention any local restaurants in his area. đQuote:
Originally Posted by FatboxingfanMaybe make sure of things than blame others like a cop, twice now thanks. Bilbo-Baal-Brock-Frodo-et alQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzFuck off BrockQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
I guess I must have. My point was that this is an impeachment INQUIRY and they've chosen to do that for a reason. Either they think that an up or down vote on impeachment wouldn't pass the House OR what is more likely, they believe they can drag this out AND slime Trump with all these accusations which some people are eating up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I've got an idea on what will happen.
Do you not understand how ironic that accusation is? Especially coming from someone like Adam Schiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Please do expound on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
If those agencies are/were corrupt, then by all means kneecap away! And HELL YES those agencies, especially the FBI are/were corrupt! Right down to the names given to the cases Hillary's emails/server "Midyear Exam" and Trump-Russia Collusion "Crossfire Hurricane" and then down to the individual agents in charge of those investigations "God Trump is a loathsome human", "He's not going to become president is he?" response "No he's not, we'll stop him", "Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support....âQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
There's a great deal the mainstream media ISN'T telling you Spicoli and unless you make the effort to get even a glimpse of the other side of things there's going to be a lot that you're not going to hear about.
In the end sir, Trump wins and America wins, and things will change a great deal.
Iâm not going to say this again I am bilbo you twatsQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHe gets a touch paranoid. Don't mention any local restaurants in his area. đQuote:
Originally Posted by FatboxingfanMaybe make sure of things than blame others like a cop, twice now thanks. Bilbo-Baal-Brock-Frodo-et alQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzFuck off BrockQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
easy steps to follow, all hushed-up in the MSM:
1. Hilary Clinton and the DNC paid Fusion GPS and FOREIGN AGENTS Christopher Steele (UK), Josef Mifsud (Malta), and Australian agents to COMPILE A PHONY DOSSIER ON TRUMP.
2. Phony Dossier was leaked by Brennan (CIA) and others in US to the NYTimes paper, which breathlessly published the unverified lies and smears.
3. FBI and CIA then say OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, LOOK WHAT THE TIMES PAPER HAS REVEALED! We need an investigations!
4. Phony Dossier was used BY OBAMA AND HIS APPOINTEES (comey, clapper, Brennan, etc) to apply for AND OBTAIN Foriegn Surveilance Intelligence Court (FISA) to obtain search warrants and wiretaps ON tRUMP
5. On 4 separate occassions, PHONY DOSSIER WAS USED AT FISA court to RE-NEW the warrants against Trump EVEN THOUGH COMEY SAID NUMEROUS TIMES ON RECORD IT WAS SALACIOUS AND UNVERIFIED
6. FISA abuse involed crooked agents ignoring EXCULPATRY EVIDENCE AS WELL AS RE-NEWING WARRANTS WHILST KNOWING the Phony Dosser was FAKE< PHONY< UNCVERIFIED AND SALACIOUS.
7. Corroboration e-mails obtained by Trump PROVE FBI WAS GUNNING FOR TRUMP, "insurance policy in case he wins" etc.... what was the "insurance policy?" ....
8. THE PHONY ROBERT MUELLER "IGNORE ALL EXCULAPTRY EVIDENCE" WITCH HUNT INVESTIGATION, lasting 3 years and costing $30 mill
after it crashed abnnd burnt, Mueller was disgraced and the dems and MSM bootlickers were DISGRACED IN PERDITION, but never apologized, then in pure shame and embarrasment they .......
9. WENT AFTER THE HONORABLE WILLIAM BARR ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE us of A
10. Now going after a nothing-hamburger Ukraine call that Ukraine Prez says NEVER HAPPENED, NO PRESSURE, etc.
the 24/7 Never-Trumpet MSM unhinged lackeys and globalist agenda "anchor" people and late-night talk shows, NYtimes, CNN, Washington post, etc.. A DISGRACE LIKE NEVER EVER SEEN BEFORE.
The rules were not changed Lyle. This article appeared on the internet and Trump and the rest of the GOP rushed to use it as evidence that the deep state had changed the rules so the whistleblower could blow the whistle. However the intelligence community Inspector General, the man who handles whistleblower complaints and a Trump appointee, has subequently gone public and said the article is completely wrong, that a. the rules regarding second hand information haven't changed, second hand information has always been acceptable as evidence in a whistleblower complaint and b. the Trump whistleblower has first hand information after all. What part of this don't you understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I didn't say what the Whistleblower filled out changed the RULES & GUIDELINES regarding Whistleblower information were changed....does that not strike you as odd?
At the time the Complainant filed the Disclosure of Urgent Concern form with the ICIG
on August 12, 2019, the ICIG followed its routine practice and provided the Complainant
information, including âBackground Information on ICWPA Process,â which included the
following language:
In order to find an urgent concern âcredible,â the IC IG must be in
possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit
information via the ICWPA based on an employeeâs second-hand
knowledge of wrongdoing. This includes information received from
another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he/she
witnessed some type of wrongdoing. (Anyone with first-hand knowledge
of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the IC IG.)
Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide
sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you
think wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than secondhand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the
complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.
The Disclosure of Urgent Concern form the Complainant submitted on August 12, 2019 is
the same form the ICIG has had in place since May 24, 2018, which went into effect before
Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence
Community on May 29, 2018, following his swearing in as the Inspector General of the
Intelligence Community on May 17, 2018. Although the form requests information about whether
the Complainant possesses first-hand knowledge about the matter about which he or she is lodging
the complaint, there is no such requirement set forth in the statute. In fact, by law the Complainant
â or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect
to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees â need not possess first-hand
information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern. The
ICIG cannot add conditions to the filing of an urgent concern that do not exist in law. Since
Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence
Community, the ICIG has not rejected the filing of an alleged urgent concern due to a
whistleblowerâs lack of first-hand knowledge of the allegations.
So again that's 0.00 First-Hand information that this "whistleblower" provided but whatever you're free to keep hoping and dreaming.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27...wer-knowledge/
Between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings. This raises questions about the intelligence communityâs behavior regarding the August submission of a whistleblower complaint against President Donald Trump. The new complaint document no longer requires potential whistleblowers who wish to have their concerns expedited to Congress to have direct, first-hand knowledge of the alleged wrongdoing that they are reporting.
Yyyyeah because that ain't sketchy as shit
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...onspiracy.html
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Originally Posted by El KabongAh I see you buy into the Adam Schiff version of things. Trump didn't and wouldn't have had to ask the Ukrainian PM to "fabricate" anything about Joe Biden and his son and the prosecutor investigating Burisma. What WAS fabricated is Schiff's talking points that you're buying whole cloth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Point out where it violates the treaty won't you?
Yeah that's the problem, they didn't charge her AFTER James Comey read aloud most of the crimes she committed and then pulled the "oh but she didn't INTEND to break the law" yeah how's about YOU try that one if you get in trouble and tell me how it works for you.
If everything is as you say then I guess you've got 0 to worry about then.
No I remember you bringing up Shep and endorsed by Media Matters as well....did you save that link just for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuWc1y0c-bw
What is this obsession with you and shelving? Is that what is happening to your posts when they turn out like his
T
....instead of like "This"?
Two days. Two days and everything already fell off your little shelf. I'll cut and paste the stuff from two days ago.
There isn't a transcript, there's a selectively edited White House memorandum of the conversation. From the time they gave the conversation lasting there should be about three times more words than they've so far shared. They scrapped the original transcript and stored an edited version in a top secret location instead of where it was meant to be kept where dozens of officials could access it for some reason. They've done whis with dozens of calls apparently.
Here's Fox news judge somethingorother on whether Trump broke the law or not:
Judge Napolitano: Trump has admitted committing crime in talks with Ukraine
and a video too
https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-...admitted-crime
Even conservative news outlets have said he's bang to rights. The Washington Examiner, both editorial and various legal scholars (don't have time to find a link) and the premier conservative outlet, the National Review :
I havenât been a litigator since 2015. I havenât conducted a proper cross-examination since 2014. But if I couldnât walk a witness, judge, and jury through the transcript of Donald Trumpâs call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and demonstrate that a quid pro quo was more likely than not, then I should just hang up my suit and retire in disgrace. Far from being âscattershotâ â as my esteemed colleague Kyle Smith declares â the actual sequence is extremely tight, and the asks are very clear.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-quid-pro-quo/
And here's a scene from the Godfather with the language from the White House "transcript" added:
https://twitter.com/LarryNoble_DC/st...59931033034759
Also, too:
After the call, multiple officials told the whistle-blower that future talks between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky would depend on whether the Ukranians would âplay ballâ on the investigations.
I'm guessing Trump will be happy for all these officials to testify under oath to the impeachment inquiry.
And you don't have news for me Lyle, you have a bunch of whackadoodle conspiracy theories that you're too chickenshit to articulate. I have to say Lyle, if Trump is just waiting to drop the hammer and cart off all the deep state Democrats from Obama and Hillary on down then this would be the perfect theatrical moment to do it. It's going to happen any day now. You fucking nut, you gullible fucking moron.
Thank you for the many insults as per usual.
Given your stance all we can do now is wait and see who is correct at the end of it. Best of luck.
Yes Lyle. Will it be the intelligence agencies of various foreign countries and a bunch of American law enforcement professionals with, uh, unimpeachable reputations who have dedicated their lives to upholding the US constitution and enforcing the law including decorated military veterans or will it be a racist fraudster serial bankrupt money laundering sex criminal who since he entered the political arena has seen his campaign manager, replacement campaign manager, personal attorney, National Security Advisor and various other campaign operatives be convicted of felonies/serve jail time. Of course Trump is already an unindicted co conspirator in the charges that sent his attorney to jail. And now this impeachment thing -- coercing the leader of a foreign nation to fabricate charges against his main political rival. And apparently repeating this crime in public today at a press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Which of us will be proved correct? It really could go either way.
Wow new guy you're all in in under 50 posts. Def a rarity, just don't often see actual newbies hit the ground with all caps and shooting people :D. Like deja vu a bit. Huh. Imagine that. Happy Halloween though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
Best of luckQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Guess all that defense goes out the window when a President stands in front of the cameras and invites China to investigate candidates and interfere in U.S elections. Nope you just can't make that shat up.
Any American defending that has checked love of Country at the door.
The Barr thing is unreal. The Attorney General flying round the world trying to get foreign governments to contradict the evidence they've already produced in the Trump Russia investigation. You have Trump, his dodgy AG, Rudy and two GOP lawyers conducting an investigation that circumvents the entire US law enforcement system.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMust have missed where I stated I'm not in favor of impeachment. Before and after. No one knows what will come here, you me or the shadow. The GOP defense is deafening is you listen closely. Crickets save for the standard rantings of Nunez Inc. A few have actually found that their boys have dropped and they're standing up. Ever so sloooowly. The man sought political favors from a Foreign country to interfere in a U.S election. Period. This is beyond 'ohhh that A hole Trump he's a meany'. That was a convenience for him but that ship has sailed. He's snorkeling in the swamp now. Trump is best at walking into punches and it's how he finds himself constantly fighting backwards and making very little actual progress in thought out sound policy. He is always going backwards. Just as sending Barr as his personal errand boy to whitewash Russian interference and yet again knee cap law enforcement and his Intelligence agencies. He's a demo guy, and he's great at tearing things down.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Way back in the year 2016 I can remember when the Attorney General having a brief public meeting with the husband of the subject of a criminal investigation was grounds for her to be investigated and locked up. It was called treasonous. I wonder if I searched for what Lyle had to say about Loretta Lynch on the tarmac with Clinton what I'd find.
Now we have Trump's AG, one of the subjects of the criminal whistleblower complaint and a man who should be therefore recused from anything to do with Trump-Russia flying round the world conducting his own investigation into US law enforcement. It's a sight to see.
Yeah so I guess go ahead and have that up or down vote on impeachment or just do the inquiry where it'll be a long drawn out thing that attempts to take the shine off of Trump, but ends up overshadowing the Democrat Primaries ....so again, best of luckQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
He's a one man crime wave. He's now openly criming in public. Congress is charged with upholding the constitution. They took an oath and everything. They can't not impeach a flamboyantly criminal president.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah so I guess go ahead and have that up or down vote on impeachment or just do the inquiry where it'll be a long drawn out thing that attempts to take the shine off of Trump, but ends up overshadowing the Democrat Primaries ....so again, best of luckQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I never read in this world any rules about newbie using italics, fonts, all caps, punctuation marks or bold script or not, within or without a certain number of posts... plus the hole text of points I hit you hard on above you skirted around it by saying "newbie" etc. Its like msm, when hit hard by those same points above, just like to distract to other points.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWow new guy you're all in in under 50 posts. Def a rarity, just don't often see actual newbies hit the ground with all caps and shooting people :D. Like deja vu a bit. Huh. Imagine that. Happy Halloween though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
not important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Yeah really gets the old noggin' a joggin' doesn't it? Why start with this Impeachment Inquiry? :dontknow: They have the votes in the House, up or down vote, Democrats win, they get to start the actual impeachment process......and yet they aren't doing it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uplo...fies-gif-7.gif
....but yeah, nah, yeah I'm sure it's nothing
OK so it's ONLY the worst thing ever when TRUMP does it...ok, I get it now, I gotcha, say no more :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Because it ain't like anyone else actually DID make shit up about a candidate using foreign sources and then attempt to fuck over that candidate because their shoo-in LOST which made them scramble to piece that shit together to wreck the candidate's time in office....I mean hahaha...THAT never happened right? :-\
Skirted around what exactly with newbie? It's an observation, no rules on caps and script. Calm your tits and Happy Halloween.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatboxingfanI never read in this world any rules about newbie using italics, fonts, all caps, punctuation marks or bold script or not, within or without a certain number of posts... plus the hole text of points I hit you hard on above you skirted around it by saying "newbie" etc. Its like msm, when hit hard by those same points above, just like to distract to other points.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWow new guy you're all in in under 50 posts. Def a rarity, just don't often see actual newbies hit the ground with all caps and shooting people :D. Like deja vu a bit. Huh. Imagine that. Happy Halloween though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
What does that even mean. So you're ok with that then? Let's do something radical..let's talk today and what is actually unfolding before our eyes. You're ok with inviting China into the Presidential election? Or is the media spinning this one. Maybe the sun had him at a bad angle or the mic was bugged yeh.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK so it's ONLY the worst thing ever when TRUMP does it...ok, I get it now, I gotcha, say no more :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Because it ain't like anyone else actually DID make shit up about a candidate using foreign sources and then attempt to fuck over that candidate because their shoo-in LOST which made them scramble to piece that shit together to wreck the candidate's time in office....I mean hahaha...THAT never happened right? :-\
has everybody lost there sense of humor these days, what is so wrong to say hey Russia, if your listening, it is his style he is a comedian, it is why we vote him in, he is a refreshing breathe of fresh air, it is nice and brings joy to life to fight against the lack of the sense of humor nowadays. Hey China if youre listening, big deal, tell me if your "other" country has the answer for you, you wonuldn't take it? Classify it as collusion, just a quip, just a joke, just a funny ballsy comment? He didn't do anything and he is JUST FOR QUIPPING gonna deserve criticising? No, that is censorship.
It means whatever Trump has been ACCUSED of others have actually DONE. That's what it means. I'm ok with Trump defending himself it's why I voted for the guy. Trump pulls no punches, he's been played dirty from the start and in the end he's going to come out on top as he always has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
OK China, why would they be invited into the election process? The Biden's are crooked as fuck. How are the Biden's crooked? Well Hunter Biden, crack smoking and Brother's widow fucking aside (yeah, you read that right)...Hunter Biden got kicked out of the Navy, he's a ne'erdowell who is connected because of his father Joe. Joe gets a job as VP from Obama to have dealings with Ukraine, and hey what a shock Hunter ends up in the gas business (if gas ain't slang for a drug then Hunter Biden doesn't know shit about it) but Hunter is getting $50,000 a month at Burisma. And then a prosecutor investigates and all of a sudden Ol' Joe gets that prosecutor fired by withholding American funds (something Trump was accused of doing just recently) and where's the outrage? Where's the media coverage of that? Where's your posts saying "Damn that's crooked, he's got to go!"???? Nothing, NOTHING man.
And China?!?!? Yeah I'm not forgetting....same deal only in China Hunter Biden was gifted a 2.8 carat diamond from Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming. Biden continued working with Ye, negotiating a deal for Ye's company to invest $40 million in a liquefied natural gas project in Louisiana. The deal eventually fell through when Ye was detained by Chinese authorities in 2018 for corruption.
Now I want you to take a second, close your eyes and think real hard......think if Don Jr or Eric or Ivanka or Jared or Tiffany or even lil Baron did 1/1000000th of that and what we'd be reading about in the papers and seeing on the TV.
There's a lot of noise about how "Trump is going after his political foe!" ....well the primaries haven't even started, Joe is in the lead MAYBE, but he's fading really fast. Bernie just had a stint put in, there's like 85 other candidates so who knows who Trump will face in 2020 (could even be Hillary still). Also considering the investigation oh I'm sorry "Counter Intelligence" it was counter intelligence...which is why Trump wasn't briefed on things involving Carter Page or Manafort (Manafort who did exactly what the Podesta's did and they got what again? Jail? Trial? Oh that's right NOTHING!) or Papadopolous who was so low down the ladder in the campaign he was unpaid! And who had dealings with Papadopolous? Alexander Downer (a highly connected Aussie in England) and Joseph Mifsud who it will come out sooner on a larger scale is a and I can't stress this enough WESTERN INTELLIGENCE ASSET but who is often described as a Professor who has ties to Russia.
Spicoli, I get your view of things, I do....all I can do is tell you what the side that supports Trump is seeing. We're seeing the Deep State side (Obama, HRC, Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper et al) get away with murder and we're seeing Trump get everything thrown at him (and anyone associated with him) for TROLLING. You can take that or leave it, you can say "That seems far fetched but interesting" and dive in and research it (you'll probably find it too boring and I don't have the time or urge to do so) or you'll just be happy taking what the mainstream media gives you. That's up to you, I try to hear from all sides. I'm in the middle of Andrew McCarthy's book 'Ball of Collusion' and Andy is a 'never Trumper' but even so...it don't paint a pretty picture for the Deep State. also on a personal note it's very difficult for me to overlook the constant corruption from the Clinton's since Arkansas it's been going on if not before then.
I'll tell you what I told Kirkland, we'll wait and see what happens. None of us has any impact on what unfolds, let's watch it play out and see how it goes.
Speaking of Ol' Andy McCarthy, here's a piece he just did in The Hill. Andrew McCarthy is a former Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
Ignore the hype â this is not an impeachment inquiry
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...chment-inquiry
You are not to be faulted if you think a formal inquest is under way and that legal process has been issued. The misimpression is completely understandable if you have been taking in media coverage â in particular, reporting on a haughty Sept. 27 letter from House Democrats, presuming to direct Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, on pain of citation for obstruction, to cooperate in their demands to depose State Department officials and review various records.
The letter is signed by not one but three committee chairmen. Remember your elementary math, though: Zero is still zero even when multiplied by three.
What is portrayed as an âimpeachment inquiryâ is actually just a made-for-cable-TV political soap opera. The House of Representatives is not conducting a formal impeachment inquiry. To the contrary, congressional Democrats are conducting the 2020 political campaign.
The House has not voted as a body to authorize an impeachment inquiry. What we have are partisan theatrics, proceeding under the ipse dixit of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). It raises the profile, but not the legitimacy, of the same âimpeachment inquiryâ House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) previously tried to abracadabra into being without a committee vote.
Moreover, there are no subpoenas. As Secretary Pompeo observed in his fittingly tart response on Tuesday, what the committee chairmen issued was merely a letter. Its huffing and puffing notwithstanding, the letter is nothing more than an informal request for voluntary cooperation. Legally, it has no compulsive power. If anything, it is rife with legal deficiencies.
The Democrats, of course, hope you donât notice that the House is not conducting a formal impeachment inquiry. They are using the guise of frenetic activity by several standing committees â Intelligence, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, Oversight and Reform, Financial Services, and Ways and Means â whose normal oversight functions are being gussied up to look like serious impeachment business.
But standing committees do have subpoena power, so why not use it? Well, because subpoenas get litigated in court when the people or agencies on the receiving end object. Democrats want to have an impeachment show â um, inquiry â on television; they do not want to defend its bona fides in court.
They certainly do not want to defend their letter. The Democratsâ media scribes note the chairmenâs admonition that any failure by Pompeo to comply âshall constitute evidence of obstruction of the Houseâs impeachment inquiry.â What a crock.
In criminal proceedings, prosecutors demand information all the time and witnesses often resist â just as congressional Democrats encouraged the Justice Department and FBI to resist when Republican-controlled committees were trying to investigate such matters as Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse. Presumptively, resisting an information request is not evidence of obstruction. It is evidence that the recipient of the demand believes he or she has a legal privilege that excuses compliance. The recipient can be wrong about that without being guilty of obstruction.
Congressional Democrats know this, of course â many of them are lawyers. They are issuing partisan letters that pose legally offensive threats, rather than subpoenas, because this is a show, not an impeachment inquiry. Subpoenas donât require chest-beating about obstruction. Everyone knows they are compulsory, but everyone also knows they may be challenged in court. Such challenges take time, though, and Democrats are in a hurry to close this show after a short run.
Etc
What you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
How the hell do you remember what anyone said here. Especially quoting it, itâs like you honor someone. Damn I want to be quotedQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
IC Inspector General Didnât Review Ukraine Call Before Forwarding Whistleblower Complaint
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/02...wer-complaint/
âAs a part of its preliminary review, the ICIG did not request access to records of the Presidentâs July 25, 2019, call with the Ukrainian President.â He continued, âI decided that access to records of the telephone call was not necessary to make my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern âappears credible.ââ
Well I'm sure that's no big deal right? It's all by the book on the up and up right? Not like the Whistleblower is making some gigantic accusation about our duly elected President or anything...no need to investigate and make 100% certain it's a credible claim, just rubber stamp it and send it on down the line.
"Five long years i hid this watch up my ass. Not because it was anyone's birthright but because i liked it when the alarm went off" Walrus 2014Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHow the hell do you remember what anyone said here. Especially quoting it, itâs like you honor someone. Damn I want to be quotedQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
Thatâs better but it was only two yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz"Five long years i hid this watch up my ass. Not because it was anyone's birthright but because i liked it when the alarm went off" Walrus 2014Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHow the hell do you remember what anyone said here. Especially quoting it, itâs like you honor someone. Damn I want to be quotedQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
Again..going backwards. Is all that whackadoodle sex, drugs, diamonds and targeting family horse shat a part of that scrapbook folder put before Congress yesterday too. The one that included numerous flags about it being misinformation and the majority should not be trusted. Biden personally didn't withhold a thing and was in no position to do so. Fact is the prosecutor in question was widely known to be inept and unwilling to go after corruption and multiple Ukrainian officials resigned in protest. His removal was demanded from the Administration to the E.U and had feck all to do with the son of Biden as a private citizen. No friend what he, the President, actually DID and pertaining to what I asked was he stood on the White House lawn and solicited foreign interference from a hostile Country to obviously benefit in a U.S Presidential election and help hobble a U.S candidate. Exactly what he and his backers denied until they were blue in the face and exactly why he finds himself in the Impeachment shat show now. He just doubled down and admitted to what he's been denying and has zero credibility or an inkling of leadership save for right over the nearest cliff with this Countries best interests and credibility in tow. And the media blame is a crutch that has run it's coarse. No brain on a spine with even half consciousness and one eye blinking needs to be fed what to think as Trump makes sure it plays out in front of our eyes and he'll be held accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIt means whatever Trump has been ACCUSED of others have actually DONE. That's what it means. I'm ok with Trump defending himself it's why I voted for the guy. Trump pulls no punches, he's been played dirty from the start and in the end he's going to come out on top as he always has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
OK China, why would they be invited into the election process? The Biden's are crooked as fuck. How are the Biden's crooked? Well Hunter Biden, crack smoking and Brother's widow fucking aside (yeah, you read that right)...Hunter Biden got kicked out of the Navy, he's a ne'erdowell who is connected because of his father Joe. Joe gets a job as VP from Obama to have dealings with Ukraine, and hey what a shock Hunter ends up in the gas business (if gas ain't slang for a drug then Hunter Biden doesn't know shit about it) but Hunter is getting $50,000 a month at Burisma. And then a prosecutor investigates and all of a sudden Ol' Joe gets that prosecutor fired by withholding American funds (something Trump was accused of doing just recently) and where's the outrage? Where's the media coverage of that? Where's your posts saying "Damn that's crooked, he's got to go!"???? Nothing, NOTHING man.
And China?!?!? Yeah I'm not forgetting....same deal only in China Hunter Biden was gifted a 2.8 carat diamond from Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming. Biden continued working with Ye, negotiating a deal for Ye's company to invest $40 million in a liquefied natural gas project in Louisiana. The deal eventually fell through when Ye was detained by Chinese authorities in 2018 for corruption.
Now I want you to take a second, close your eyes and think real hard......think if Don Jr or Eric or Ivanka or Jared or Tiffany or even lil Baron did 1/1000000th of that and what we'd be reading about in the papers and seeing on the TV.
There's a lot of noise about how "Trump is going after his political foe!" ....well the primaries haven't even started, Joe is in the lead MAYBE, but he's fading really fast. Bernie just had a stint put in, there's like 85 other candidates so who knows who Trump will face in 2020 (could even be Hillary still). Also considering the investigation oh I'm sorry "Counter Intelligence" it was counter intelligence...which is why Trump wasn't briefed on things involving Carter Page or Manafort (Manafort who did exactly what the Podesta's did and they got what again? Jail? Trial? Oh that's right NOTHING!) or Papadopolous who was so low down the ladder in the campaign he was unpaid! And who had dealings with Papadopolous? Alexander Downer (a highly connected Aussie in England) and Joseph Mifsud who it will come out sooner on a larger scale is a and I can't stress this enough WESTERN INTELLIGENCE ASSET but who is often described as a Professor who has ties to Russia.
Spicoli, I get your view of things, I do....all I can do is tell you what the side that supports Trump is seeing. We're seeing the Deep State side (Obama, HRC, Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper et al) get away with murder and we're seeing Trump get everything thrown at him (and anyone associated with him) for TROLLING. You can take that or leave it, you can say "That seems far fetched but interesting" and dive in and research it (you'll probably find it too boring and I don't have the time or urge to do so) or you'll just be happy taking what the mainstream media gives you. That's up to you, I try to hear from all sides. I'm in the middle of Andrew McCarthy's book 'Ball of Collusion' and Andy is a 'never Trumper' but even so...it don't paint a pretty picture for the Deep State. also on a personal note it's very difficult for me to overlook the constant corruption from the Clinton's since Arkansas it's been going on if not before then.
I'll tell you what I told Kirkland, we'll wait and see what happens. None of us has any impact on what unfolds, let's watch it play out and see how it goes.
You do not know it is Brock....but who threw the first blow here? Just saying. Obsessed much?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
No side bets between you two fellows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYes Lyle. Will it be the intelligence agencies of various foreign countries and a bunch of American law enforcement professionals with, uh, unimpeachable reputations who have dedicated their lives to upholding the US constitution and enforcing the law including decorated military veterans or will it be a racist fraudster serial bankrupt money laundering sex criminal who since he entered the political arena has seen his campaign manager, replacement campaign manager, personal attorney, National Security Advisor and various other campaign operatives be convicted of felonies/serve jail time. Of course Trump is already an unindicted co conspirator in the charges that sent his attorney to jail. And now this impeachment thing -- coercing the leader of a foreign nation to fabricate charges against his main political rival. And apparently repeating this crime in public today at a press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Which of us will be proved correct? It really could go either way.
Ill bet: going on the entire history of impeachments in the USA that this will all fizzle out without any charge and zero dismissal of Trump.
On another note Its always really interesting reading through Lyles and Kirks opposing views,cheers gents :cool: :cool: Really funny to see the two main old ball kicker adversaries of Bean and Brock have a public side ring of their own set up again. ;D ;D. Hi Brock, hope you are doing well. Beanz well done on your latest stuff mate, always good to see you doing well.
How can it be Brock, this fatboxer dude hadnât talked about shit or not being whiteQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou do not know it is Brock....but who threw the first blow here? Just saying. Obsessed much?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
This is the most insane experience I've had TBH, you guys sure are having fun it's like a dungeons and dragons. I'm branded as a Brock by some, Lyle by others and others get branded as Bilbo or Frodo, guess I'm not following this interactive confusion, I wish I had his money or fame. I was warned it could get a little nasty on off topics so yeah, I said roll with the punches to him, he knows who he is. So who is Elrond and who is Lady Galadriel. I'll stick to boxing.
We had a hundred dollar bet already and Lyle lost but won't pay up. There's another twenty dollar bet on how this eventually shakes out. If it turns out that the Q anon conspiracy stuff is accurate I pay up. If it turns out that the intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies of numerous countries weren't all working together in a gigantic conspiracy to prevent Trump getting elected and were actually just investigating the criminal actions of a racist fraudster serial bankrupt money laundering sex criminal conman unindicted co conspirator and the collection of convicted felons who made up his campaign team then Lyle has to pay up again. I'm not holding my breath though.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreNo side bets between you two fellows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYes Lyle. Will it be the intelligence agencies of various foreign countries and a bunch of American law enforcement professionals with, uh, unimpeachable reputations who have dedicated their lives to upholding the US constitution and enforcing the law including decorated military veterans or will it be a racist fraudster serial bankrupt money laundering sex criminal who since he entered the political arena has seen his campaign manager, replacement campaign manager, personal attorney, National Security Advisor and various other campaign operatives be convicted of felonies/serve jail time. Of course Trump is already an unindicted co conspirator in the charges that sent his attorney to jail. And now this impeachment thing -- coercing the leader of a foreign nation to fabricate charges against his main political rival. And apparently repeating this crime in public today at a press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Which of us will be proved correct? It really could go either way.
Ill bet: going on the entire history of impeachments in the USA that this will all fizzle out without any charge and zero dismissal of Trump.
In overnight news on the Trump extortion scheme:
WASHINGTON â President Donald Trump ordered the removal of the ambassador to Ukraine after months of complaints from allies outside the administration, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, that she was undermining him abroad and obstructing efforts to persuade Kyiv to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, according to people familiar with the matter.
The recall of Marie Yovanovitch in the spring has become a key point of interest in the House impeachment inquiry. A whistleblower complaint by a CIA officer alleges the president solicited foreign interference in the 2020 elections by pressing Ukraineâs president in a July 25 call to pursue investigations, including into the activities of Biden, a Democrat who is running for president.
[...]
State Department officials were told this spring that Yovanovitchâs removal was a priority for the president, a person familiar with the matter said. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo supported the move, an administration official said. Yovanovitch was told by State Department officials that they couldnât shield her from attacks by the president and his allies, according to people close to her.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-o...4797fa9e5743aa
and
WASHINGTON â Two of President Trumpâs top envoys to Ukraine worked on a statement for the countryâs new president in August that would have committed Ukraine to pursuing investigations sought by Mr. Trump into his political rivals, according to three people briefed on the effort and documents released Thursday night.
Their work on the statement is new evidence of how Mr. Trumpâs fixation with conspiracy theories linked to Ukraine began driving senior diplomats to bend American foreign policy to the presidentâs political agenda in the weeks after a July 25 call between the two leaders.
The statement was worked on by Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, and Kurt D. Volker, then the State Departmentâs special envoy to Ukraine, according to the documents and the three people who have been briefed on it. Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trumpâs personal lawyer and the de facto leader of a shadow campaign to push the Ukrainians to press ahead with investigations, provided the critical element of the language, Mr. Volker told House Democratic investigators on Thursday.
The Ukrainians never released the statement. But if they had, Mr. Trumpâs aides would have effectively pressured a foreign government to give credence to allegations intended to undercut one of the Democratic Partyâs leading 2020 presidential candidates â former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. â without leaving Mr. Trumpâs fingerprints on it.
Mr. Volker spent Thursday on Capitol Hill being questioned by House investigators as Democrats pursued their impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trumpâs actions.
Late Thursday, House Democrats released a series of texts between Mr. Volker and Mr. Sondland including the language for the proposed statement......................
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/u...p-ukraine.html
In newly disclosed text messages shared with Congress, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine writes to a group of other American diplomats that "I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.â
The exchange, provided by another American diplomat, former U.S Special Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, as part of his closed-door deposition before multiple House committees Thursday, shows what appears to be encrypted text messages he exchanged with two other American diplomats in September regarding aid money President Donald Trump ordered to be held back from Ukraine.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-...ry?id=66039011
Text messages released on Thursday between US diplomats and a senior Ukrainian aide show how a potential Ukrainian investigation into the 2016 election was linked to a desired meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and US President Donald Trump.
The text messages, which were released by the House Intelligence Committee, also show how Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was closely connected with US policy on Ukraine and was involved in setting up the July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelensky in which Trump urged an investigation into Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
They show how cognizant the Ukrainians were about the importance of the election investigation to Trump and Giuliani's role.
On the morning of the call, in an exchange with a key adviser to the Ukrainian President, then-US Special Envoy for Ukraine Kurt Volker made clear that it was important to the White House that Zelensky convince Trump that an investigation into the 2016 election would happen.
"Heard from the White House -- assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate/'get to the bottom of what happened' in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington," Volker said via text to the Ukrainian adviser on the morning of July 25.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/03/p...ate/index.html
And this is good. That Hunter Biden and his trading off his father's name. That's enough to warrant criminal charges definitely:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...01835507060743
Keep scrolling on that one.
Unbiased Andrew McCarthy, a guy who has backed every crazy Republican idea from torture to internment of American citizens without trial and so on:
https://twitter.com/zpleat/status/1179731498343239682
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...AIhix3k24Boj3M
https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/...80597857759232
A newly unearthed letter from 2016 shows that Republican senators pushed for reforms to Ukraine's prosecutor general's office and judiciary, echoing calls then-Vice President Joe Biden made at the time. CNN's KFile found a February 2016 bipartisan letter signed by several Republican senators that urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to "press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General's office and judiciary."
The letter shows that addressing corruption in Ukraine's Prosecutor General's office had bipartisan support in the US and further undercuts a baseless attack made by President Donald Trump and his allies that Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire then Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin to stop investigations into a Ukrainian natural gas company that his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, nor is it clear whether Hunter was under investigation at all.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/03/p...ile/index.html
and
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/s...07564486303745
Well this guy is a Trump appointee and crucially knows the law, specifically the whistleblower laws as it's a big part of his job. So I'm going to let him slide here especially considering the complaint has turned out to be completely accurate and Trump has confirmed he said what he said and then said it again in public on live TV yesterday and added on another country this time. So it's kind of moot anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I don't even know who this Brock is.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusHow can it be Brock, this fatboxer dude hadnât talked about shit or not being whiteQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou do not know it is Brock....but who threw the first blow here? Just saying. Obsessed much?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you used to say BROCK was "Lord save us from the morose, joyless & mundane" before making another video crying about your parents not leaving you any inheritance :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
And what are these people even doing with Trump conversation anyway? Personally I think it is good to know the in and outs of Biden who seemingly likes to get his son appointed in very well paying fields he has no knowledge of. If anything that is the kind of thing Kirk was railing against in the public school thread and I do happen to dislike people being given jobs based on family and nepotism which seems to run through many of these political people. Biden should drop out as he is a horrible old crony with a memory problem. He can barely remember his own name.
BTW.....who are you?