If Haye meets Kllitchko(s)

I dont think haye gonna beat any of the klitchkos imo getting floored by a damaged monte barret, what a joke.

If this fight happens its gonna be awesome seeing haye lose hopefully. even though im british hayes a cocky guy nothing humble about him. would love to see him lose.

Reasons i think hell lose.

1) Wont out box them
2) wont out power them
3) his guard is low and chin high
4) no reach or height or weight advantage
5) hell eat jabs all thru the fight with big right follow ups and doubt hell cope

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Originally Posted by BoxingsEasy

I dont think haye gonna beat any of the klitchkos imo getting floored by a damaged monte barret, what a joke.

If this fight happens its gonna be awesome seeing haye lose hopefully. even though im british hayes a cocky guy nothing humble about him. would love to see him lose.

Reasons i think hell lose.

1) Wont out box them
2) wont out power them
3) his guard is low and chin high
4) no reach or height or weight advantage
5) hell eat jabs all thru the fight with big right follow ups and doubt hell cope

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cocky or confidence? in england we love a loser. we always try to instill humility, usually at the expense of self belief.

having said that I think if hayes met either klitschko he'd lose for all the reasons you mentioned. barrett technique wasn't good but he still managed to hit hayes with alarming easy. even with the wild (throw and hope) punches. all the current belt holders would expose hayes and secretly hayes knows this. I give him respect for wanting to fight the best but he needs to adapt in order to compete.

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Originally Posted by Hume

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Originally Posted by BoxingsEasy

I dont think haye gonna beat any of the klitchkos imo getting floored by a damaged monte barret, what a joke.

If this fight happens its gonna be awesome seeing haye lose hopefully. even though im british hayes a cocky guy nothing humble about him. would love to see him lose.

Reasons i think hell lose.

1) Wont out box them
2) wont out power them
3) his guard is low and chin high
4) no reach or height or weight advantage
5) hell eat jabs all thru the fight with big right follow ups and doubt hell cope

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cocky or confidence? in england we love a loser. we always try to instill humility, usually at the expense of self belief.

having said that I think if hayes met either klitschko he'd lose for all the reasons you mentioned. barrett technique wasn't good but he still managed to hit hayes with alarming easy. even with the wild (throw and hope) punches. all the current belt holders would expose hayes and secretly hayes knows this. I give him respect for wanting to fight the best but he needs to adapt in order to compete.

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agree with everything stated above, both posts.

I'm a Haye fan and would love to see him beat one of them



But yes - I have to agree with the above.....:-\

the only way i can see Haye winning is if he went to the body only since the way Wladimer holds his jab out there he is leaving himself open for a jab body shot that Sergei Lyakovich used to be good at doing. If Haye went only to the body against Wladimer or Vitali he would have a much better chance then if he just swung for the fences for the head then he'd end up like herbie hide.

i like Haye as a fighter , fast , powerful , possibly has dodgy chin , all the ingredients for excitement , i personally think he will get flattened by either of the Brothers Grim , but i will be watching with interest.

Both Klitchkos will maul Haye like he's a little boy imo. I suppose he has a 'punchers chance' against glass Jaw, but nop eagainst Vitali imo.

Either Klitschko knocks out Haye in less than 5 rounds.

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Originally Posted by BoxingsEasy

I dont think haye gonna beat any of the klitchkos imo getting floored by a damaged monte barret, what a joke.

If this fight happens its gonna be awesome seeing haye lose hopefully. even though im british hayes a cocky guy nothing humble about him. would love to see him lose.

Reasons i think hell lose.

1) Wont out box them
2) wont out power them
3) his guard is low and chin high
4) no reach or height or weight advantage
5) hell eat jabs all thru the fight with big right follow ups and doubt hell cope

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I think you need to check out this thread.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-down-gif.html

That wasn't a legit KD and he was hit while he down, learn your facts before you claim something. Secondly i don't get the big deal with Wladimir Klitschko, his chin is atrocious he has one of the worst chins i've ever seen from a world champion.

Plus his stamina his very suspect and he hasn't been forced to fight, because of the opposition he has been up against. I can easily see David Haye laying out Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't met someone as quick/powerful as David Haye since Corrie Sanders.

And look what happened ? i give David Haye as good of a chance of laying out Wladimir Klitschko, than any other Heavyweight in the division at the moment, as for Vitali Klitschko his chin i think maybe too good for David Haye and he may stop him late on. But i wouldn't count out David Haye in that one either.

Seems not many people are analyzing this properly David Haye is a good boxer firstly but ended up banging yesterday. David can box, very well actually, an example of this is how every time he was against the ropes he grabbed Barret and walked him back to the center of the ring where Haye will have the advantage due to being faster than his opponent.

I really think Wlad will Panick when he gets clipped and get knocked out. Vitali however is still an unknown people are assuming it's the same Vitali that had the great fight with Lewis but we have not seen anything to indicate that.

Vitali beating up on the out of shape slow plodding Peter proves about as much as Haye beating up Barret and that is not much.

I think the fight between Vitali and Haye could be a good one and the result is not forgone.

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Originally Posted by piye

Seems not many people are analyzing this properly David Haye is a good boxer firstly but ended up banging yesterday. David can box, very well actually, an example of this is how every time he was against the ropes he grabbed Barret and walked him back to the center of the ring where Haye will have the advantage due to being faster than his opponent.

I really think Wlad will Panick when he gets clipped and get knocked out. Vitali however is still an unknown people are assuming it's the same Vitali that had the great fight with Lewis but we have not seen anything to indicate that.

Vitali beating up on the out of shape slow plodding Peter proves about as much as Haye beating up Barret and that is not much.

I think the fight between Vitali and Haye could be a good one and the result is not forgone.

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I think Peter vs. Haye wouldn't be a bad fight either since it look like there is a gap between now and fighting either Klitschko. Peter's got a name and it would give a great opportunity for Haye to show his boxing skills.

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Originally Posted by BoxingsEasy

I dont think haye gonna beat any of the klitchkos imo getting floored by a damaged monte barret, what a joke.

If this fight happens its gonna be awesome seeing haye lose hopefully. even though im british hayes a cocky guy nothing humble about him. would love to see him lose.

Reasons i think hell lose.

1) Wont out box them
2) wont out power them
3) his guard is low and chin high
4) no reach or height or weight advantage
5) hell eat jabs all thru the fight with big right follow ups and doubt hell cope

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Can see your reasonings though not sure if you actually saw the Haye fight last night as he wasn't floored so can't see how you can have an opinion on the fight when you clearly didn't watch it. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

I think you need to check out this thread.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-down-gif.html

That wasn't a legit KD and he was hit while he down, learn your facts before you claim something. Secondly i don't get the big deal with Wladimir Klitschko, his chin is atrocious he has one of the worst chins i've ever seen from a world champion.

Plus his stamina his very suspect and he hasn't been forced to fight, because of the opposition he has been up against. I can easily see David Haye laying out Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't met someone as quick/powerful as David Haye since Corrie Sanders.

And look what happened ? i give David Haye as good of a chance of laying out Wladimir Klitschko, than any other Heavyweight in the division at the moment, as for Vitali Klitschko his chin i think maybe too good for David Haye and he may stop him late on. But i wouldn't count out David Haye in that one either.

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Wladimir has addressed any issues with his chin by #1 Getting up 3 times and beating Sam Peter and #2 His defense has improved by leaps and bounds.

The way people have beaten Wlad I can only see Haye winning one way and that's just by catching him flush early in a round and following up enough to stop the fight. There is no fucking way on Earth David Haye beats Wladimir the way Purrity or Brewster beat him....Haye can't take those kinds of big punches and still be there to keep fighting back.

David Haye got hit too much by Monte Barrett and Haye also left himself wide open to be countered. I think a fighter like Sultan Ibragimov would eat Haye alive right now.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

I think you need to check out this thread.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-down-gif.html

That wasn't a legit KD and he was hit while he down, learn your facts before you claim something. Secondly i don't get the big deal with Wladimir Klitschko, his chin is atrocious he has one of the worst chins i've ever seen from a world champion.

Plus his stamina his very suspect and he hasn't been forced to fight, because of the opposition he has been up against. I can easily see David Haye laying out Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't met someone as quick/powerful as David Haye since Corrie Sanders.

And look what happened ? i give David Haye as good of a chance of laying out Wladimir Klitschko, than any other Heavyweight in the division at the moment, as for Vitali Klitschko his chin i think maybe too good for David Haye and he may stop him late on. But i wouldn't count out David Haye in that one either.

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Wladimir has addressed any issues with his chin by #1 Getting up 3 times and beating Sam Peter and #2 His defense has improved by leaps and bounds.

The way people have beaten Wlad I can only see Haye winning one way and that's just by catching him flush early in a round and following up enough to stop the fight. There is no fucking way on Earth David Haye beats Wladimir the way Purrity or Brewster beat him....Haye can't take those kinds of big punches and still be there to keep fighting back.

David Haye got hit too much by Monte Barrett and Haye also left himself wide open to be countered. I think a fighter like Sultan Ibragimov would eat Haye alive right now.

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Samuel Peter knocked down Wladimir Klitschko with rabbit shots not chin shots, i can't think of many flush chin shots Samuel Peter landed in the entire fight.

....and that makes a difference??? Wlad got up, hurt in some cases and did the right thing vs Peter he held on til he was ok.


As for the Sanders fight, it's not as if Wlad was sparked out cold...he got hit flush several times, he just didn't take his time getting up or getting his feet back under him before he tried to fight back which is the wrong thing to do when you're hurt. You push off or hold on but either way you want to be out of "the danger zone"