If Haye meets Kllitchko(s)

[El Kabong]

I think you need to check out this thread.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-down-gif.html

That wasn't a legit KD and he was hit while he down, learn your facts before you claim something. Secondly i don't get the big deal with Wladimir Klitschko, his chin is atrocious he has one of the worst chins i've ever seen from a world champion.

Plus his stamina his very suspect and he hasn't been forced to fight, because of the opposition he has been up against. I can easily see David Haye laying out Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't met someone as quick/powerful as David Haye since Corrie Sanders.

And look what happened ? i give David Haye as good of a chance of laying out Wladimir Klitschko, than any other Heavyweight in the division at the moment, as for Vitali Klitschko his chin i think maybe too good for David Haye and he may stop him late on. But i wouldn't count out David Haye in that one either.

Wladimir has addressed any issues with his chin by #1 Getting up 3 times and beating Sam Peter and #2 His defense has improved by leaps and bounds.

The way people have beaten Wlad I can only see Haye winning one way and that's just by catching him flush early in a round and following up enough to stop the fight. There is no fucking way on Earth David Haye beats Wladimir the way Purrity or Brewster beat him....Haye can't take those kinds of big punches and still be there to keep fighting back.

David Haye got hit too much by Monte Barrett and Haye also left himself wide open to be countered. I think a fighter like Sultan Ibragimov would eat Haye alive right now.

[ICB]

I think you need to check out this thread.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-down-gif.html

That wasn't a legit KD and he was hit while he down, learn your facts before you claim something. Secondly i don't get the big deal with Wladimir Klitschko, his chin is atrocious he has one of the worst chins i've ever seen from a world champion.

Plus his stamina his very suspect and he hasn't been forced to fight, because of the opposition he has been up against. I can easily see David Haye laying out Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko hasn't met someone as quick/powerful as David Haye since Corrie Sanders.

And look what happened ? i give David Haye as good of a chance of laying out Wladimir Klitschko, than any other Heavyweight in the division at the moment, as for Vitali Klitschko his chin i think maybe too good for David Haye and he may stop him late on. But i wouldn't count out David Haye in that one either.

Wladimir has addressed any issues with his chin by #1 Getting up 3 times and beating Sam Peter and #2 His defense has improved by leaps and bounds.

The way people have beaten Wlad I can only see Haye winning one way and that's just by catching him flush early in a round and following up enough to stop the fight. There is no fucking way on Earth David Haye beats Wladimir the way Purrity or Brewster beat him....Haye can't take those kinds of big punches and still be there to keep fighting back.

David Haye got hit too much by Monte Barrett and Haye also left himself wide open to be countered. I think a fighter like Sultan Ibragimov would eat Haye alive right now.

Samuel Peter knocked down Wladimir Klitschko with rabbit shots not chin shots, i can't think of many flush chin shots Samuel Peter landed in the entire fight.

[El Kabong]

....and that makes a difference Wlad got up, hurt in some cases and did the right thing vs Peter he held on til he was ok.


As for the Sanders fight, it's not as if Wlad was sparked out cold...he got hit flush several times, he just didn't take his time getting up or getting his feet back under him before he tried to fight back which is the wrong thing to do when you're hurt. You push off or hold on but either way you want to be out of "the danger zone"

[Tysonbruno]

David Haye will give both the brothers a lot of trouble that fight last night was at a lot faster pace than a fight with either of the Klits would be i think Dave would get his punches off easier.

[Youngblood]

We wanted excitement in the HW division guys, and David Haye delivered just that. One of the more enjoyable fights I've seen in the division in a long time

Does that mean he is ready to take over the division. Not by any means. That wide open style will get him clobbered. But if he is patient, and studies his opponents well and adapts, can restrain himself and box effectively...I do think he will atleast have a chance. Just not today.

[Saddo]

We wanted excitement in the HW division guys, and David Haye delivered just that. One of the more enjoyable fights I've seen in the division in a long time

Does that mean he is ready to take over the division. Not by any means. That wide open style will get him clobbered. But if he is patient, and studies his opponents well and adapts, can restrain himself and box effectively...I do think he will atleast have a chance. Just not today.

you know mate your prob the youngest guy on the forum but are without a doubt the most unbiased and classiest post here

Rep

for me Haye looked OK last night... sure he gets hit no one likes to see a boxer who don't.

Mayweather vs Baldimor
Lennox Lewis Vs David Tua
Wladimir Klitschko Vs Sultan Ibragimov

all snooze fests that i would have prefered not to have the pleasure of wasting my time watching. so this getting hit crap is just that, this is boxing folks and the guys who are stating it are the same ones that said he would get sparked at heavy

will Haye beat any of the Klitschko's ? Prob Not

but hey he wants the fight and isnt looking to milk his career at heavy.

so for me well done Haye, your a breath of fresh air to the division

[El Kabong]

David Haye will give both the brothers a lot of trouble that fight last night was at a lot faster pace than a fight with either of the Klits would be i think Dave would get his punches off easier.

....it was a fast pace because there was no danger for Haye in that fight. Just the jabs of Wladimir and Vitali will be enough to make Haye second guess his punches and the right hands will only further clam him up until he's not throwing at all and only focused on not getting hit and merely surviving instead of applying pressure.

[leftylee]

If Haye ever met Dr Slap or his brother ?

He would knock them spark out!

[Saddo]

If Haye ever met Dr Slap or his brother ?

He would knock them spark out!

just a wild guess, but i think its posts like this that make people hate Haye.

[ICB]

....and that makes a difference Wlad got up, hurt in some cases and did the right thing vs Peter he held on til he was ok.


As for the Sanders fight, it's not as if Wlad was sparked out cold...he got hit flush several times, he just didn't take his time getting up or getting his feet back under him before he tried to fight back which is the wrong thing to do when you're hurt. You push off or hold on but either way you want to be out of "the danger zone"

Yes it makes a difference Lyle because they wern't legit knockdowns, totally different to getting knocked down legit with a shot to the chin. Wladimir Klitschko hasn't been hit on the chin since his KO losses.

And rightfully so now he is fighting defensively, which he has to do to protect that weak chin. I got no problem with it but it doesn't make for good viewing.

Lastly i think David Haye can bring Wladimir Klitschko out of his shell, i think whoever basically lands there right hand first wins the fight.

[El Kabong]

I don't think it matters at all buddy...Wlad will use the jab, use his size, and batter Haye. Wlad has the range and control to effectively shut out David Haye and I think you will all come to recognize this when Haye steps up vs better fighters.


As a heavyweight you cannot be that out of control and not get caught with a counter at some point. Monte nearly got him not that it would have done anything but you guys must realize Haye has yet to be hit by a power puncher from a guy who throws them for a living at the heavyweight division.


Haye would in all honesty just like Wlad to be on the back foot constantly moving so that he can catch him with a wild shot or tire him out. Wlad will most likely jab and move and find the opening for his right cross and then begin the destruction of David Haye....keeping Haye moving backwards and covering up

[No Contest]

I wouldn't mind Hay taking out Wlad, because he is very boring in and out of the ring. But Vitali is different, his fights are exciting because you know it is going to end early one way or another. I hope Haye take out Wlad, then Vitali unifies the division.

[piye]

To be honest I know Haye is vulnerable but I hope he unifies as Vit is still old and injury prone and Wlad is boring and horrible to watch Haye brings back excitement and glamour to the division.

[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

Haye might very well lose, but he's got a legitimate shot at either brother. Moreso Wlad than Vitali, I think. I could see him winning, but I can't see him stopping Vitali. For me, the key to the winner is mobility. The Klitschkos aren't dancemasters in the ring, but they command the space through their wingspan, ample footwork, great height, and ranginess.

Haye needs to get the bombs consistently to the detonation site, but his footwork and balance falter down the stretch. His chin will be tested, and if he doesn't have the mobility, he's screwed. We know he has the handspeed, but the hands need to get within proper range to utilize that handspeed.

[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

I should have said "command the ring space---ring area". I know people probably know what I meant, but I didn't want to come across as incomprehensible.