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There is quite a debate going on after Marquez's great win last night as to who is p4p no1 right now. I'll stick with Manny personally but I'll stick the Rings top 10 in the poll and you can vote for who you want.
If your no1 is not in the list I'll be interested to hear who it is!
Marquez was in one of the best fights we have seen for a while and people are pumped with his performance, but come on Pac is still the man Dela Hoya might well have been over the hill but before the fight Pac was nearly a 3/1 underdog and this was at 147, Pac has a win over JMM aswell, no matter what anyone thinks he got the win. Only way to settle this is a third fight. But for me Pac is still number 1 clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Beating a babyboy who never won a fight against active elite fighters doesn't mean you're the best in the world.
I voted JMM.
Beating David who struggled against Silverio Ortiz who was robbed in that fight in one of the worst robberies ever. Diaz also struggled vs. Montana in his previous fight and won a MD fight where Montana was able to tag him and push him around.Quote:
Originally Posted by James_Teja
I don't even have to mention the ODLH thing that was just crazy to think ODLH could perform well at 147.
JMM has become the lineal champ not some title holder.
He beat the lineal champ in Joel and he beat the #2 rated guy by The Ring becoming the man in the div.
Oh yeah, and Casa dominated Katsidis and Santa Cruz (the Santa Cruz that KOed by David Diaz). Right? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickBeating David who struggled against Silverio Ortiz who was robbed in that fight in one of the worst robberies ever. Diaz also struggled vs. Montana in his previous fight and won a MD fight where Montana was able to tag him and push him around.Quote:
Originally Posted by James_Teja
I don't even have to mention the ODLH thing that was just crazy to think ODLH could perform well at 147.
JMM has become the lineal champ not some title holder.
He beat the lineal champ in Joel and he beat the #2 rated guy by The Ring becoming the man in the div.
Btw, 28 of 30 of boxing writters picked DLH to dominate Pacquiao.
They must be the stupidest 30 writers ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by James_TejaOh yeah, and Casa dominated Katsidis and Santa Cruz (the Santa Cruz that KOed by David Diaz). Right? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickBeating David who struggled against Silverio Ortiz who was robbed in that fight in one of the worst robberies ever. Diaz also struggled vs. Montana in his previous fight and won a MD fight where Montana was able to tag him and push him around.Quote:
Originally Posted by James_Teja
I don't even have to mention the ODLH thing that was just crazy to think ODLH could perform well at 147.
JMM has become the lineal champ not some title holder.
He beat the lineal champ in Joel and he beat the #2 rated guy by The Ring becoming the man in the div.
Btw, 28 of 30 of boxing writters picked DLH to dominate Pacquiao.
ANYONE who thought ODLH had a shot vs. Pac clearly wasn't analyzing ODLH.
From day 1 when the fight was announced I said him fighting at that weight is just insane and he had zero chance in my books.
Casa didn't dominate Kats but he showed how great champions are never out of a fight and he did KO, Kats.
The Santa Cruz fight was a robbery clearly SC deserved the win but your pulling at strings now SC & David at their best are C class fighters neither has championed or reigned as champs. ODLH was and is just fighting the same way Duran fought at the end of his career when it's clearly over but you can't let it go.
Both Casa & Juan Diaz have reigned supreme and have been long standing current champs.
I voted Marquez.
I voted JMM juzz because he juzz had his big win.
JMM & Pac are defentely are top two IMO they are tied on No.#1.
Pac is #1 - Pac still owns a win over Marquez and Pac is still fighting/KO'ing top level competition like Marquez. This win doesnt warrant taking the top spot from Pac....Keep in mind Nate Campbell also beat Juan.......Juan wasnt bullet proof...JMM is #2
Pacquiao is still the best, and he beat Marquez in their last fight if that isn't evidence enough, I don't know what is.
Obviously it is close, but I still could arguably see Hopkins slide infront of JMM. If you are like me and think Hopkins beat Calzaghe, and at very least a razor close decision seperated the two either way, after he already beat Wright, and Tarver. Then he went on to beat Pavlik. These guys except maybe Tarver are all higher up p4p than the guys JMM fought besides Pacquiao who DID beat him. It was a good close fight, but Pacman clearly won it.
Where did you post that he, Oscar, had zero chance against Pacman?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickThey must be the stupidest 30 writers ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by James_TejaOh yeah, and Casa dominated Katsidis and Santa Cruz (the Santa Cruz that KOed by David Diaz). Right? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Btw, 28 of 30 of boxing writters picked DLH to dominate Pacquiao.
ANYONE who thought ODLH had a shot vs. Pac clearly wasn't analyzing ODLH.
From day 1 when the fight was announced I said him fighting at that weight is just insane and he had zero chance in my books.
Casa didn't dominate Kats but he showed how great champions are never out of a fight and he did KO, Kats.
The Santa Cruz fight was a robbery clearly SC deserved the win but your pulling at strings now SC & David at their best are C class fighters neither has championed or reigned as champs. ODLH was and is just fighting the same way Duran fought at the end of his career when it's clearly over but you can't let it go.
Both Casa & Juan Diaz have reigned supreme and have been long standing current champs.
You mean like David Diaz and ODLH?;D:rolleyes: Here we go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
So David Diaz and ODLH were bullet proof?
FACT: Marquez last opposition was way higher level than Pacman's
If you are like me and thought Marquez beat Pac then you'd understand why Marquez is P4P no.1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Just to do my part in debasing the legitimacy of this poll, I voted Hatton.
If I had to choose between Pac and JMM though, I would pick Pac.