Boxing: HBO: Klitschkos confuse fans
Are you fucking kidding me? Are people really that stupid? I have a very hard time believe this is why they won't televise the Klitschko - Chambers fight.
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Boxing: HBO: Klitschkos confuse fans
Are you fucking kidding me? Are people really that stupid? I have a very hard time believe this is why they won't televise the Klitschko - Chambers fight.
To answer your question, yes people can be that stupid. But really, wlad just has a boring style. It does not make great exciting drama, hence no HBO fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
While I don't disagree with you, I find is somewhat odd that a guy who knocks almost everyone he fights out and who is always in danger of being knocked out himself actually manages to be a boring fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogTo answer your question, yes people can be that stupid. But really, wlad just has a boring style. It does not make great exciting drama, hence no HBO fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
that's because fighters like that tend to be safety first.
Which sort of contradicts the fact that in championship fights he's either knocked out or has been knocked in 14 of 16 bouts. or may its 12-2(10) can't remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumkalambay
how is it contradicting? one thing I would say about Wlad is that he's aptly named Dr.Steelhammer.
take the tony thompson fight. a horrible fight completely devoid of any skill from either fighter. Wlad ends it with a single punch.
he saps his opponents' strength when he holds. he even jabs to set up clinches. he doesn't throw uppercuts because it leaves him open. he doesn't even step in to throw lefthooks because that leaves him open. wlad right now is the definition of a safety first fighter.
Because Wlad fights like John Ruiz with power. Jab and grab for 8 rounds and then knocking them out late.
I am amazed that they've never been warned for holding.
This ring magazine article gives great insight why HBO didn't pick up this fight.
The fact Klitschko-Chambers is not on U.S. TV is a new low
And I have to say I agree with the article.
Wlad just reminds me a lot of a Larry Holmes. A very good technical HW champion, but boring as fuk and reigning in a weak era. There's a reason why Holmes couldn't draw flies to his bouts and actually had to have a 50/50 purse split when he fought Gerry Cooney and was introduced 1st, which always is reserve for the challenger in boxing tradition.
Most boxing fans want the HW champ to be exciting like a Johnson, Dempsey, Marciano, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, etc. They don't want robotic technically sound safety 1st HW champs.
Larry Holmes never grabbed his opponents for most of the bout when he had every advantage over them, look at his fight with Ken Norton or Shavers.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
The difference between Holmes and Wladimer is night and day.
I know a heck of a lot of people who claim to be fight fans yet would not be able to tell you which is the elder brother.
It sounds retarded to us on here but if someone asked someone with a very vain knowledge of soccer to pick out the gary from the 2 nevilles they`d find it a hard thing to do.
This situation is unique in that they have both been blessed with incredible physical structures and have been able to combine that with some very good solid boxing, not classy stuff not good on the eye. But good old eastern european efficency.
It will take an old style heavyweight, 6`2, 220pounds of lean muscle to take 1 if not both of these guys out before countrys like the US/UK can even begin to get the sport back on track again.
My fear is that wont happen. We may simply just have to wait for both to call it a day and then start again with the hope that future WBC/WBO heavyweight champions of the world arent lard arsed uzbekistanis/lithuanians
You know, I wish more points would be taken away in fights for excessive holding. It's not fun to watch and blatant clinching and holding on without doing anything more is not inside fighting. People like Klistchko and old man Hopkins are just horrible to watch at times. Ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Funny how the Kamedas don't have this issue in Japan.
i agree fighters need to be penalised more for holdingQuote:
Originally Posted by milesYou know, I wish more points would be taken away in fights for excessive holding. It's not fun to watch and blatant clinching and holding on without doing anything more is not inside fighting. People like Klistchko and old man Hopkins are just horrible to watch at times. Ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
****remembers who his favourite fighter is****
****slowly backs out of thread****
And...Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethWhich sort of contradicts the fact that in championship fights he's either knocked out or has been knocked in 14 of 16 bouts. or may its 12-2(10) can't remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumkalambay
To be fair in the book by Mary Shelley there was only one of them created in the laboratory so when HBO viewers see two of them it's understandable that it's a little confusing.