Jose Sulaiman, WBC President, Passes Away at Age 82 - Boxing News
What happens with the WBC now?
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Jose Sulaiman, WBC President, Passes Away at Age 82 - Boxing News
What happens with the WBC now?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
R.I.P. doesn't seem like he was an honest guy, but least he did set up some pensions and such for down and out fighters.
I'd say since I've read his son will be taking over that it will be business as usual.
Well, what can you say. He won't be forgotten in Boxing.
yeah he was a git but he is dead.... I don't even know what i am rambling about now... but the geezer is dead thats serious business lets leave it at that I hope it doesn't descend into some weird name calling. insult fest.. let the old guy rest in peace... I also realise I may cause inults to be directed at this fellow by pointing it out but whatever... i think we should let hi go
He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.
He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Given his immense influence on boxing, the man should receive a proper 21 gun salute to commemorate his passing.
It would be the first time in history every round is fired into the casket.
That's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.
Who exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streetsQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.
I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night
The guy that Don King killed, he kicked to death on the street. He was a smaller guy, and Don beat him down and kicked him to death. The guy owed him money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWho exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streetsQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.
I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night
Sulaiman wasn't good for boxing. I'm sure the earthworms will puke a little too.
Im sure JCC will be gutted , Jose made the rules up to suite JCC .
The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.
I was talking about the other guy he killed. King does have two murders to his nameQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldThe guy that Don King killed, he kicked to death on the street. He was a smaller guy, and Don beat him down and kicked him to death. The guy owed him money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWho exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streetsQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.
I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night
Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purseQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.