Jose Sulaiman has died

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

[p4pking]

Given his immense influence on boxing, the man should receive a proper 21 gun salute to commemorate his passing.

It would be the first time in history every round is fired into the casket.

[bzkfn]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

That's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.

I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

That's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.

I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.

Who exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streets

I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night

[greynotsoold]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

That's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.

I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.

Who exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streets

I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night

The guy that Don King killed, he kicked to death on the street. He was a smaller guy, and Don beat him down and kicked him to death. The guy owed him money.

[Gandalf]

Sulaiman wasn't good for boxing. I'm sure the earthworms will puke a little too.

[Dark Lord Al]

Im sure JCC will be gutted , Jose made the rules up to suite JCC .

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

That's great, but it doesn't really excuse his reign of bullshit for the WBC. He did a great thing for Gennaro but fucked so many other fighters.

I'm sure at some point Don King has organised and paid charity events, but it doesn't changed the fact that he murdered someone.

Who exactly did he fuck? Sulaiman wasn't a promotor. He had no fighters under like King or Arum. He didn't get a percentage of fighters purses like they did. I'm not gonna claim he as was some saint. Cuz he wasn't. But he wasn't as bad as he was made out to be. Sulaiman always did what he could to try and help fighters who were down on there luck. And it wasn't just Mexican fighters. He helped out Rocky Lockridge and Iran Barkley when were on the streets

I don't understand your last comment. You make it seem like he did something wrong. Yeah King murdered someone. But what was he suppose to do? Let the guy rob him? Come on now. It was justified. And in no way should it be held against him. It can be twisted many ways. But bottom line is this. If the man wasn't in someone elses house, taking shit that didn't belong to him he most likely wouldn't of died that night

The guy that Don King killed, he kicked to death on the street. He was a smaller guy, and Don beat him down and kicked him to death. The guy owed him money.

I was talking about the other guy he killed. King does have two murders to his name

[Kirkland Laing]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purse

[Kirkland Laing]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purse

The WBC take a cut from fighters' purses. I agree that promoters and maybe even managers should pay something towards looking after retired fighters but the WBC makes a living renting $20 weightlifting belts to fighters with zero financial risk. They also take money from promoters to get their guys ranked and for eventual title shots. Sulaiman even used to go to fighters after they'd won and ask them for their trunks, gloves, even wraps which then used to end up on the memorabilia market. Throwing out a few dollars to buy themselves some cheap credibility by helping the occasional fighter doesn't change the nature of what they do.

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purse

The WBC take a cut from fighters' purses. I agree that promoters and maybe even managers should pay something towards looking after retired fighters but the WBC makes a living renting $20 weightlifting belts to fighters with zero financial risk. They also take money from promoters to get their guys ranked and for eventual title shots. Sulaiman even used to go to fighters after they'd won and ask them for their trunks, gloves, even wraps which then used to end up on the memorabilia market. Throwing out a few dollars to buy themselves some cheap credibility by helping the occasional fighter doesn't change the nature of what they do.

Only if they fight for the WBC title. If not the WBC gets nothing. And it's just the sanction fees. It's not an actual cut from the fighters purse. People dislike the sanction fees. But what are they suppose to do? Let them fight for the title for free? That's unrealistic. The WBC is a ranking organization. But it's also a business. It needs to make money some how

[Kirkland Laing]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purse

The WBC take a cut from fighters' purses. I agree that promoters and maybe even managers should pay something towards looking after retired fighters but the WBC makes a living renting $20 weightlifting belts to fighters with zero financial risk. They also take money from promoters to get their guys ranked and for eventual title shots. Sulaiman even used to go to fighters after they'd won and ask them for their trunks, gloves, even wraps which then used to end up on the memorabilia market. Throwing out a few dollars to buy themselves some cheap credibility by helping the occasional fighter doesn't change the nature of what they do.

Only if they fight for the WBC title. If not the WBC gets nothing. And it's just the sanction fees. It's not an actual cut from the fighters purse. People dislike the sanction fees. But what are they suppose to do? Let them fight for the title for free? That's unrealistic. The WBC is a ranking organization. But it's also a business. It needs to make money some how

Their sanctioning fees are three or four percent of each fighter's purse.

A private enterprise shouldn't be a sanctioning body or you end up with totally corrupt enterprises like the WBC/IBF/WBA etc. It should be a nonprofit body so that money can't play any part in ranking decisions or anything else.

[Violent Demise]

He was corrupt and a poor influence on the current state of affairs in the sport we love, but may he rest in peace.

He help pay for a lot of Genero Hernandez medical expensives when he got sick.

The amount he paid out to help sick boxers was a tiny percentage of his turnover. He took three or four percent of all their WBC title purses and every other boxer who fights for a WBC title. If you took that money and funnelled it through a nonprofit sanctioning body that spent it all on looking after retired boxers then they'd be able to hire ten or thirty times more boxers.

All these sanctioning bodies are just racketeering enterprises. They're all headquartered in Panama or the Dominican Republic where they don't have to produce publicly available audited company accounts. There's a reason for that.

Every organization takes out sanction fees. That's nothing new. Nor is it illegal. And while I feel retired boxers should get more help it's really not the organizations job to help them out. Retired boxers should be looked out by there promotors and managers. The muthafukkas who actually take a cut from a fighters purse

The WBC take a cut from fighters' purses. I agree that promoters and maybe even managers should pay something towards looking after retired fighters but the WBC makes a living renting $20 weightlifting belts to fighters with zero financial risk. They also take money from promoters to get their guys ranked and for eventual title shots. Sulaiman even used to go to fighters after they'd won and ask them for their trunks, gloves, even wraps which then used to end up on the memorabilia market. Throwing out a few dollars to buy themselves some cheap credibility by helping the occasional fighter doesn't change the nature of what they do.

Only if they fight for the WBC title. If not the WBC gets nothing. And it's just the sanction fees. It's not an actual cut from the fighters purse. People dislike the sanction fees. But what are they suppose to do? Let them fight for the title for free? That's unrealistic. The WBC is a ranking organization. But it's also a business. It needs to make money some how

Their sanctioning fees are three or four percent of each fighter's purse.

A private enterprise shouldn't be a sanctioning body or you end up with totally corrupt enterprises like the WBC/IBF/WBA etc. It should be a nonprofit body so that money can't play any part in ranking decisions or anything else.

Who the fuck would waste there time with any non-profit? Nobody eats with non-profit. Fuck non-profit. Like I said before the WBC is a business. It needs to make money