Wladimir Klitschko's Resume

Previously undefeated fighters (10)

Chagaev 25-0 (Wlad was the first and only one to knock Chagaev down)
Ibragimov 22-0
Brock 29-0 (Wlad was the first to knock Brock down
Peter 24-0
Castillo 18-0
Shaheed 16-0
Vujecic 14-0
Pianeta 28-0 (Wlad was the first and only one to knock Pianeta down
Povetkin 26-0 (Wlad was the first and only one to knock Povetkin down)
Wach 27-0

Plus many who had only ever lost once (Thompson, Chambers, Bostice, Barrett, etc)


Former, future or current world champions: (11)

Byrd (2)
Peter
Chagaev
Ibragimov
Mercer
Brewster
Rahman
Povetkin
Mormeck
Haye


The best statistic on Wladimir Klitschko, though, is HOW MANY OPPONENTS HE'S KOed WHO WERE NEVER STOPPED BEFORE. I believe he's the best of the past 50 years in this category. There are so many:

Thompson (Wlad was the first to knock Thompson down)
Chambers (Wlad is the only one who has ever knocked Chambers down)
Bostice
Barrett
Shultz
Pianeta
Chagaev (Wlad is the only one who has ever knocked Chagaev down)
Shufford
Mercer
Vujecic
Brock
Castillo
Shaheed
Wolfgramme

and several others.

Some who are considered bums now, were highly regarded before Wlad beat them.

Axel Shultz had only close decision losses, and had never been knocked down in his fights against Moorer, Foreman, etc.

David Bostice was regarded as one of the top American heavyweight prospects at the time he fought Wladimir, and had never been stopped or even knocked down before. Wlad put him on the canvas twice in the first and twice in the second. Bostice openly wept in his corner after the fight, and was never the same fighter afterwards.

Paea Wolfgramme had an excellent amateur pedigree, and was physically bigger than Wlad at about 280 pounds. He had never previously been stopped or even knocked down, and had lost only one close decision. Wlad knocked him out in the first round.

Monte Barrett, who was highly regarded at the time, had never previously been stopped or even knocked down, but he went down five times in the fight with Wladimir.

The underrated Tony Thompson had never been stopped or even knocked down before he fought Wlad in 2008 (he had only one close decision loss in a four round fight).


And of course, Wladimir Klitschko won Olympic Gold in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. :)

i considered them all bums before wlad fought them

Wlad will go down as 1 of the atg HWs once he retires. Sure, I find his style to be boring and only watched his matches once and never watch them again, but he's effective, very effective. He'll be missed as the dominant hw champion that he is once he retires. Imagine just how bad the HW division would be without him.

its a record!

Its as good as it can be pretty much and Im sure by the time he retires there wont be anyone missing on it that were willing to fight him.

Nice stats, but fact is they were all dog shit and his best wins are Chris Byrd and Sam Peter, which is pretty sad. He could be one of the greatest ever, but we'll never know because (no fault of Wlad's) this era is so so so bad!

Yea.... Wlad did have a good run. But his opponents were al tailor made, and many of them hyp-jobs or feather fisted HW's.

I respect the wins over Haye and Brewster, foremost- but he had to come back the second time for Brewster, Brewster being the liveliest fighter on this resume aside from Haye. He did slow Haye down to a snail's pace. Brewster the second time around was already showing damage and was shot....

But the other fighters were slight hype jobs, all but the exception of Povetkin who was a legit fighter- but clearly not ready as a professional for the Wlad fight.

Ibragimov was too small... Chagaev wasn't all that. Bostice? GTFOOH! Byrd? Fighting Chris Byrd was like Golovkin fighting Paulie Malinaggi at Middleweight... sooner or later, the shots would have told.

Thompson was a slug. Hard hitting and did have a killer instinct, but he was a tall slug. He couldn't land a punch on me.

The rest of those guys were all out hype jobs, or just didn't deserve to be in the ring with anyone with a pulse. Wlad has a pulse.

It's getting to the point where it's comical how far people will reach to discredit Wlad. They make themselves look bad. I wonder if they even realize it. There are legitimate negative points to make though.

This is a weak era, anyone denying that looks as foolish as Wlads detractors.

Records don't tell a complete story. Peter McNeely was 36-1 when he fought Iron Mike. Quality opponent, hell no, not even remotely close. McNeelys manager will tell you he had to protect Peter even on the local circuit level. Records can be made to be very fraudulent.

All that said Wlad has beaten those in front of him and some good fighters in dominant fashion along the way.

wlad will never be an all time great because of the way he fights


regardless of whether you think he fights within the rules or not and whether or not you believe he allowed to get away with the tactics he does due to the money he generates


a fighter will never be an all time great if he fights are so very dull every time


there are a list of champions who had such a dull style who were champions for years but will never be remembered or considered an all time great


Johnny nelson was world champ for 10 or so years, no one ever remembers his reign because of the way he fought


if he had have been on the front foot knocking people out every fight with the same record then he more than definitely would be remembered a lot more foundly


btw, it is an insult to Johnny to put his fights in the same dullness category as wlads

Everybody is undefeated these days. And if you are fighting in an era where David Bostice is considered- ever, at any point- a prospect, it does not say a lot for your era. I saw him in the gyms at a few different stages and he was never any good. Wlad has learned to fight a bit, though.

Wlad and Chagaev was a fight where both fighters should have been congratulated because it happened on short notice. Haye backed out of a fight vs Wlad and Valuev refused to fight Chagaev due to Ruslan's hepatitis (or the fact that Chagaev beat him once before, either way) and so both of those guys having put in full training camps decided to make the fight happen.


Chris Byrd is NOT a bad heavyweight and NOT a bad champion. Byrd put together some very good fights despite not having that much power. Sam Peter was ruined by Wladimir, I believe had Sam Peter not fought Wladimir he would have been champion for longer, that loss devastated his career.

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Originally Posted by erics44

wlad will never be an all time great because of the way he fights


regardless of whether you think he fights within the rules or not and whether or not you believe he allowed to get away with the tactics he does due to the money he generates


a fighter will never be an all time great if he fights are so very dull every time


there are a list of champions who had such a dull style who were champions for years but will never be remembered or considered an all time great


Johnny nelson was world champ for 10 or so years, no one ever remembers his reign because of the way he fought


if he had have been on the front foot knocking people out every fight with the same record then he more than definitely would be remembered a lot more foundly


btw, it is an insult to Johnny to put his fights in the same dullness category as wlads

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You're wrong

Wlad has done all that has been asked from him after his last defeat. He is a good champion and he can not do any more except maybe entertain the fans and take a few more chances.

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Originally Posted by erics44

its a record!

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I hear no sound coming out of it.

Either way it's an outstanding record.

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Originally Posted by erics44

wlad will never be an all time great because of the way he fights


regardless of whether you think he fights within the rules or not and whether or not you believe he allowed to get away with the tactics he does due to the money he generates


a fighter will never be an all time great if he fights are so very dull every time


there are a list of champions who had such a dull style who were champions for years but will never be remembered or considered an all time great


Johnny nelson was world champ for 10 or so years, no one ever remembers his reign because of the way he fought


if he had have been on the front foot knocking people out every fight with the same record then he more than definitely would be remembered a lot more foundly


btw, it is an insult to Johnny to put his fights in the same dullness category as wlads

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Johnny Nelson was a fucking joke. The only name fighter he beat during his reign was Carl Thompson. And Thompson really was never even that good of a fighter. Without the judges gifts Nelson loses 3 of his last 4 fights.