Printable View
One year ago one of the writers of Maxboxing had Mikkel Kessler in his top 20 p4p, where should we rate him now?
PERFECT STYLE!
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1783,1030)/Joe10.jpg
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1784,1030)/Joe11.jpg
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1789,1030)/Joe16.jpg
COULD LACY EVER REACH KESSLER? NO!
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1791,1030)/Joe18.jpg
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1793,1030)/Joe20.jpg
PERFECT DEFENCE
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1781,1030)/Joe8.jpg
I'm not 100% sold on Mikkel. I mean he might be good but he ain't gonna beat Calzaghe right now
he's not a big enough name. he needs to fight some of the bigger boys to sell himself and up his profile. calzaghe would batter him right now. and i think lacy would boss him.
You are right, even as a big Kess fan I would rate the fight 50-50. Calzaghe had an amateur career just as good as Kess' and he is much more experinced. Kessler has his looooooong jab and power but it would be a very good match-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Kessler vs. Lacy would be a mismatch.....Lacy is simply too poor boxing-wise and he dosent has the power of Kessler.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
Have you ever seen Kessler fight?,Kessler will be to fast for turtle-Lacy.Calzaghe beat Lacy badly,Kessler will doing the same to Lacy
who has he beat that had ANY merit?.....Joe Cal would easily dispatch of this man...this guy is a product of build up...fighting bums to pad the record......Quote:
Originally Posted by cityboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
Kessler has only fighting bums to pad the record??,are you a retarded moron?,Kessler are WBA-champ and he will not be a world-champ if he just beating bum
http://bo.yaboo.dk/kessler_vs_thysse...m?size=1&exif=
Truth of the matter is that Kessler has fought some good fighters...three to be exact IWO...just not any real great ones.
He's an asset to 168lbs & personally...I think that if Calzaghe moves to 175 & Kessler can beat Lacy...he'll rule the division.
But he aint be Lacy yet...& he aint gonna beat Joe. Period.
Again...I like Kessler...just being open minded.
he's solid, but imo thats not enough
he looks open for a right hand.
Only one way to find out if he could beat Lacy....make the fight and let them figure it out
The topic of this post kinda made me think there was going to be some kind of video... but I found a bunch of pictures, and not wanting to be terribly disappointed, I scrolled down really fast and it almost worked....
Ahhhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Now that was funny! :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Cosell
Who do you have in mind when you say he's fought three good fighters? I count one in Mundine. Any other "good" fighter on his record was washed up by he met Kess. I would like to see him in there with someone better than Tsypko in his next fight, how about Mkrtchian for example? I'm not sold on Tsypko one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Hes good, but no where near perfect in style, he would be schooled by Joe, I really mean it, he is good but Joe would maintain him, and win by a very very big margin on points....
Kessler hasnt experienced anything like what Joe would bring......
This is what I mean by boxing fans being a bit too critical.Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
Good equates to many fighters in the game...worth mentioning on Kessler's record is Mundine, Porras, Lucas, Green, & soon to be Tsypko.
I said good fighters...I didn't say world beaters. All of those fighters that Kessler beat were not chumps & have fought & beaten many name & game opponents. People forget what a fighter does the minute that he is beaten...that my friend's is bullshat.
That is not what boxing is about. Also...bgordon...this was a question that you asked & I answered it...it was a broad answer...so don't take it like I was directing it @ you 100%. I just think that people often forget what a boxer/fighter is & does way too quickly.
Jeff Lacy is the perfect example. He's done now in most people's eyes...simply because the best fighter in the world @ 168lbs beat him one sidedly...you know what I mean?
Kessler is good...& it just aggravates me that he (like Sturm & many others) get's judged on speculation & not by educated assumptions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Glad someone appreciates my strange sense of humor... by the way, I'm keeping a tally, and I owe you about 50 CCs when I mature enough to know what the hell they are
Aint no thang babe. Take your time & keep up the good humor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Cosell
Once you hit 100 posts you can return the :coolclick: favor. ;D
Open?Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Where?
http://www.teampalle.dk/media(1781,1030)/Joe8.jpg
Blind man watching?
;)
See that opening right between Kessler's gloves...that's his face...generally...a fist fits there pretty well...but he takes 'em pretty good...but that being said...he does open himself fairly well.Quote:
Originally Posted by cityboy
Usually Kessler drops his hands & admires his work & that's when he's suceptable to get popped.
Also...Mundine kept catching him when he'd back pedal. Kess would jab, drop his hands, Mundine fired & connected. Siaca did it too.
I like Kessler & consider myself a fan...I'd be upset if he lost...but if he fights Calzaghe...he'll be as open to Joes shots as Jeff was.
In the amateurs Kessler was famous for his defensive as he was impossible to hit and thereby impossible to beat on points (Even for all the russians and other eastern boxers who always wanted to beat the famous dane, but he became EU-champ just before he turned pro as young as at 18).Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I do think that Kessler is still a master of defence and by far the best defensive boxer of SMW (Beyer is a pretty good defensive boxer too). Both Lacy and Calzaghe takes much much more shots than Kessler. Kessler has never taken the count or floor.
This is the face of a Tiger not a guy who has been boxing since the age of 12…..not a single scratch……
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/530/MikkelKessler6.jpg
Young and very skinny :laugh:
http://www.boxing-records.com/photos/ntyhgju7.jpg
I don't think either Calzaghe or Kessler can claim there the best of 168 division without fighting each other. Hopefully it happens soon. I lean towards Kessler
In 2004 Lacy's team said that he would not be ready for Kess within the next few years. I do not think than things has changed since :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
http://www.planetboxe.com/ImagesPuce...lerMundine.jpg
Kessler is in a difficult situation.. .IMO he could beat Calzaghe... he has the potential, but Lacy isn't fighting and he has nobody else in the division to really increase his stock around the world to give him the recognition worthy of fighting somebody of Calzaghe's newfound fame and calibur.
-very good post, who whould actually fight KESS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
TARVER SAID NO, SO DID RJJ AND CALZAGHE - BEYER ALSO DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT KESSLER AND NEITHER WOULD REID FIGHT HIM - WHO IS LEFT TO KESSLER?
Anybody who calls Kessler world class and ready for the likes of Calzaghe is seriously dreaming. I got 100 dollars in my pocket that says he wouldn't get past Rubin Williams ;)
You kno who Kessler should fight next. Bad Chad Dawson
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgordon
Team Palle offer Mkrtchian to fight Kessler but Mkrtchian was injury after his victory over Jackson Chanet so Mkrtchian will be ready for Kessler in September
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Thats bullshit,all boxer are open in a fight how the hell can they get hit,Calzaghe are wide open then he attacks and so are Lacy,but Kessler`s defence are better than Calzaghe and Lacy`s
Starr, you are very much back to your old style; never like white boxers and hyping the ones who had been out in the sun a little longer ;). Anyway I dont want to discuss race with you ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Rubin Williams hehe.... you better put your money of this guy even I do think that he in not yet prepared for Kessler. But in a year or two I also would like the match up.
http://www.fightbeat.com/dawson3.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Mikkel Kessler vs Rubin Williams :laugh:
R.I.P Rubin Williams :jabbing:
I would like the match-up Kess vs. Lacy but I doubt that Lacy's management would ever let him fight Kess :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Mundine is 179cm - imagine how Lacy (175cm) would look against Kess. Watch Kess' biceps, they are twice the size of Lacy's bulk up biceps and Kess' are real muscles not build up muscles, who is not usefull. Actually I would be affraid that Lacy might get killed ;D
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/...b__430x344.jpg
but wait a minute... according to you 'Lacy are bum fighter' yet he was a champion with a belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by jangeorg
Was that post to me? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Lacy is a good fighter and very exciting and he is was very good for the whole smw-division.
I have never been a fan of Lacy’s boxing skills, but I like the guy in the division as his fights would always be hot and easy to sell to the TV-companies.
it was to janerog or what ever his name is... the guy I quoted... and replied to. ;)
okay, sorry it was my mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Yes, a Vacant IBF Super Middleweight Title belt,not against a wold-champ with a belt
My point is that having a belt doesn't prove that you don't have a padded record... what exactly has Kessler done? As people have said he's a solid fighter but thats it.