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I read on a forum archive that CHRIS sparred with ROY at MORRIS PARK ABC in NYC in about 1988 ?? apparently CHRIS was visiting family and friends at easter and ROY had been working with michael olajide and dennis milton ?
They say it was brief and CHRIS made ROY miss alot and they met up again over a yr later at finsbury park at benn/watson fight
Who knows more about this or if its true ?
Jones wouldnt live with Eubank
Here we disagree, i think ROY would live anybody
yea, Roy was 15 at the time....
Roy would beat Chris by an easy UD
Beating CHRIS E by easy UD ? What are you smoking ?
CHRIS would of given ROY fits and ran him close even draining his weight
I was a bit abrupt sorry....
We all know chris had excellent stamina
and with roy throwing
chris making him miss
exactly as that lad said, he would tire, and Chris would have had the better of the punches to claim a close UD
CHRIS had god damn awful stamina, which is y he could never of beaten JONES JNR over 12 rounds ;)
EUBANK would of only won the first 4 rounds against ROY, once ROY figured him out it would prolly of been abit one way traffic
you just totally contradicted yourself....Quote:
Originally Posted by petem
Chrisd got better as fight went on for me
Not heard this one before, I know Jones Jr sparred with NABF champ Ronnie Essett and IBF champ Lindell Holmes before turning pro. I know Eubank and Ronnie Essett were part of Bomber Graham's camp for the McCallum fight, but didn't spar eachother, Eubank apparently floored Bomber for the first in his life.
I don't know anything about Jones Jr and Eubank sparring..
I do know that Jones Jr was in the 'supertent' though (for Benn/Watson) because he exhanged phone numbers with Mica Paris, Benn/Watson was on NBC in the States and Jones Jr turned pro on that TV station.. they probably wanted to get Jones Jr in there with Benn?
Here's a great article link about early Jones Jr: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=3824&more=1
What's pretty damn interesting is that Mica Paris is Eubank's cousin ???
Anyway, I have heard Eubank say before that he's only ever spoke with Jones Jr at the New York press conference for the Benn rematch and at the Hamed/Barrera fight. I've never heard that he sparred with Jones Jr, but then again I never knew he sparred with Bomber Graham until recently.
As for a Jones Jr and Eubank bout, I think Eubank would of caused him a lot of problems but his low activity level wouldn't of won him too many rounds.
This is pretty interesting: http://www.activefone.net/eubank/top...sp?bd=11&id=64
No, sorry, his second pro bout was on NBC, not his debut. NBC wanted to sign him up but Jones Jr's daddy wouldn't let him because he saw exactly what happened to Nigel Benn who had too much too soon (Benn was driving around London in a Porsche in his first year as a pro, when a year earlier he was catches buses everywhere - when he could afford the fares).Quote:
Originally Posted by WWatt
I also remember that every time he fought that week, when the previous fight would end, he would come in the ring and begin loosening up. They hadn't even read the score cards of the previous bout yet and Roy would already be up in the ring while his opponent would still be outside the ring waiting for the guys that just got done fighting to get out.
In Amateur Boxing, the rules are very set and one is that you cannot enter the ring until both boxers from the previous bout have left the ring. I remember thinking "Who does this guy think he is"? Nobody ever said anything to him, though, and he did it every night. Sometimes I think back and I think it gave him a mental edge over his opposition that week. It was like he owned the place and that carried over from his confident attitude.
That has EUBANK written all over it !!
Thanks for info dude
Yep, Eubank and Jones Jr were very similar. I always thought Hamed and Jones Jr etc stole from Eubank and tried to be like Eubank.. but it seems Jones Jr was always like that (reading that).Quote:
Originally Posted by petem
Yes I've heard that Eubank was braggin about beating up on a 15 year old Roy Jones. Wouldn't been a completely differnt story had they met as grown men. Roy woulda slapped his metrosexual ass all over the ring. Probably woulda been tuff to stop the stubborn bastard, but Roy woulda won nearly every round.
I can't see Eubank winning too many rounds due to his low activity level, but most rounds would of been very, very close. Jones Jr would of been a handful for Eubank, and Eubank would of been a nightmare for Jones Jr.
How can you Chris Eubank fans say he'd beat Jones when Chris Eubank himself said he wouldn't?
eubank would have knocked jones out
all you have to do is watch the two fighters....
Roy was probably better at everything, speed, reflexs, footwork and even power....not chin though. Chris had an iron chin.
Roy was a one off, and probably P4P the best fighter of all time...
Seriously doubt it, Eubank had an iron chin and has never been stopped..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Roy UD
Eubank was a special fighter and hell in 1993 Roy JUST got to 20 fights, he just beat Bernard Hopkins, and Eubank was already well established with 30 wins.
Chris might have given RJ SOME trouble but I see Roy outlasting him and outboxing him...he was younger, faster, and he hit harder
and plus eubank doesnt like people who throw loads of punches look at 2nd watson fight for example he doesnt like people who have loads of workrate i just dont think eubank has got enough workrate to beat jones
Jones never really threw that many punches, he would through big combos but he would stalk round the ring and through single shots a lot of the time.
When RJ needed to be active he was active
Eubank-Jones Jr. would start out a chess match and end up as a close decision with Roy taking it
Pre BENN, EUBANK used the ring better than anybody Ive ever seen, countered as well as anybody Ive ever seen and was the deepest thinker Ive ever seen in a boxing ring-he never wasted a shot, back then EUBANK was something very specialQuote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
CHRIS was slicker and silkier than ROY but ROY had the power, fitness, workrate, determination, aggression JONES JNR was a beast back
like I said on the jones/benn thread
only regional pride could make someone say Eubank gets the W here O0
How would u know, youve probably never seen EUBANK fight ;) ;)
It would of taken something special to beat the Pre WATSON EUBANK
Even Post WATSON EUBANK had a better shot than any1 of outpointing JONES JNR, but i dont think he would of done becuz JONES JNR was head2head and ability wise about the best Ive ever seen and EUBANK always ran out of steam having drained his weight
yes silly I've seen Eubank fight :) - and the guys amazing I won't take that away from him. and I also agree it would've taken something special to beat him in his prime, and Jones Jr. was just that
it's not uncommon to let regional pride influence what you say and think, just for me personally I have none at all. when Calzaghe and Lacy went head to head I was screaming Calzaghe the whole time and I'm 100% American. and in my humble opinion Eubank loses this one, 10 out of the 12 rounds I'd guess.
Dodging a fighter is a cardinal sin in boxing and is something i can never be accused of, unlike one such character who came on the scene at the end of my era. Roy Jones, James Toney and Michael Nunn for example. I did not dodge.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Lets use Roy Jones as an example. When people asked me why i wouldnt fight him, I would say to them, `Never mind the title or my job, a fight like that could take five or six years off my life.` I was well aware of that. He was, pound-for-pound, arguably the best fighter on the planet; in regards to his style, his devastating punching ability, the whole repertoire, he had it.
The rule is that if you are champion of the world for one body, you cannot be the No. 1 contender for another belt. Unless someone was officially the recognised No. 1 contender, i had no professional obligation to face them. With Roy Jones, he was fortunately (and i use that word with the utmost respect) never No. 1 contender. Had he been, I would not have dodged. I would have taken the fight. Would have i have won the fight? Highly unlikely. What would have been for sure was that he would have come away from the fight and got hurt, and i would have been hurt probably far more than he was. It would of been a war. Technically we would have been well-matched, so our pure grit would have started to come into play. I believe we both had powerful wills, so I feel that fight would have ended up running on pure instinct. That can be an exceptionally violent occurrence. Interestingly, i was told that Roy Jones was rumoured to have said that the only fighter he had reservations about facing was me. I dont remember any of my critics saying much about that.
- Eubank, The Autobiography (2003)
I copied and pasted that from another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by WWatt
Why do us eubank fans think chris would have beat roy jones jr when even eubank doesnt believe it?
Eubank didnt say that he couldnt beat him. Eubank also said he wouldnt have wanted a fight with herold graham. he was almost impossible to hit. he didnt mention in his autobiougraphy how he once floored the bomber graham in his own gym!
You cannot stop eubank in a fight. When eubank fought lesser opponents, he was less active, but watch his fights against benn1 and watson2 when it really meant something to him. he was reallly aggressive, and determined.
This guy could have not only beat jones jr, he could have got stopped!
haha, yea right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WWatt
Man seriously, get those pics up. You promised 24 hours, but I've been waiting 24 days :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
How long now, One-Man? Seriously, when?
If we are talking as pros Roy JOnes Jr. would dominate the first 4 rounds, and if he couldn't take Eubank out he would coast the rest of the way, but if he could hurt Eubank easily this fight would be a KO... Roy is far superior... as an Amateur I'm not sure who would win.
Jones would've beaten Eubank 120-108 imo. Eubank's workrate was only 30 secs per round post Watson and that would not have been enough. No way Jones would top him though
There is too much blind love for Eubank and too much patriotism here,not enough realism. Angel Eyes gets cool clicked,if Eubank HIMSELF said that he would not fight RJJ as he was such a devestating puncher,that kind of ends the argument of whether Eubank could beat him. RJJ would win everyone round,in his prime,he was too much for anyone period. The speed,power etc were just PHENOMENAL. Granted he should have retired earlier but this guy had it all!
You've never seen Eubank fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
You've never seen Eubank fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo