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It's a bullshit stoppage >:mad
Valero hit's Mosquera, he takes the punch but the ref bundles in and stops it ???
He wasn't knocked down, didn't look hurt at all ???
Havn't watched the full fight yet but pretty disappointed in Valero, his knockout power wasn't in display much from what I've seen. Mosquera got caught loads of times flush but didn't seem too bothered.
Valero is overrated, he will be given a beat down if he faces the Pac man
i was going to download it but 3.5 GB, hell i would be there for days ! plus it woud drain my positive rating !
i'm gonna wait till someone avi's it. ;)
Haha, I would watch the whole fight first. What are you playing it on? I never dl DVD files, only avis but this was the exception. But Real Player and WMP crash after a couple seconds. Do i need divx or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
I'm using power dvd it plays through the whole thing, just jumps a lot where there are gapsQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
Well Valero knocked him down 3 times,knocked out his first 20 opponents and nearly knocked out highly rated youngster Urbano Antillo in SPARRING with the head gear on,so to say his power is over rated is silly.....
Man...how can you watch that? I see about 10 seconds then it skips. Annoying. I'll probably finish it later. I've been at 20 kbs most of the day. Not bad. At 60%.
Man this wait is brutal!
But from what I've seen
Valero vs Pac, Morales, Barerra = :o
I'm pretty impressed by his relentlessness. I mean he just keeps coming and coming. And his balance is better this time arround.. But why does he keep his hands at his hips when he is in close quarters? I mean, he times Mosquera very well when he comes inside but that right hand is so low on the inside, maybe it's fatigue. But his fighting while being moved back is very good. Very good timing but he is venerable to big shots. Especially when he loads up on the left hand, which is SLOW at the end. But he still works very good, most of it from that kind of "in between" range, not inside but not really outside either. One big issue for him in his previous fights is balance. But he doesn't seem to have any balance problems until he gets on the inside where his shots go wide and over top.
Have you seen the stoppage yet? Don't watch it live, go to the replay after the winner is announced you can see it better there. Mosquera didn't even look hurt to me, I'm baffled ???Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
so where are people downloading it from?
90 plus % done but only 15mins footage? Me confused!
Just finished watching the fight. I thought this was a pretty damn good fight, but to be honest it was not worth all the hype in my opinion, good determination from both fighters, This was my second time to see Velero , and I thought he was extremely hittable ,and I was not that impressed with his style in general., He is awkward more than anything. But he does keep the punches coming, I don’t know, I thought he would be more polished. Any thoughts ?
Since I can not post vids here, For those looking for the fight, you can find it here on Cotto's forum in the Cotto section of the forum.
http://miguelcotto.com/forum_cotto/index.php
Title of the thread is:
Edwin Valero- this guys good (comes w/ Mosquera download)
Peace
The fight was exciting but no Castillo Corrales. As for Valero,I was impressed by his relentless,his ability to last 10 rounds and his balance was much better this time around but he still looks better in sparring than in fights! He keeps his hands WAAAAY too low and sometimes chops too much with his punches but he is still young and will still get better imo. As for the stoppageBilbo,watch carefully man,Mosquera's corner was on the apron anyway and I didn't see anyone complaining! He was getting beat up on,when Valero seemingly gained a second wind and he was not fighting back!
I've been wondering about these 1st round KO's of Valero, what do you guys think? if MAB, Erik or Pac were to really go for first round KO's against all those kiddie challengers whom Valero KO'd in the first, could they have done it too, assuming that they were totally determined and used all their might, to the extent of even using up all their energy for it? I have to concede that although it might have been possible, it might have gone wrong somewhere, maybe at least once or twice - making an 18-fight 1st round KO streak is no joke.
But on the other hand, IMO the Mosquera fight did put some dent into Valero much hyped power - Mosquera lasting 10 rounds, the first real first class fighter Valero fought (but not among the best). I wonder how long Mosquera would have lasted against any of the three. I think the more good indicator of power would be how many 1-punch KO's a boxer has made. :o (I have seen Pac making several 1-punch KO's) It would be nice if in the official records, they also included the 1-punch KO's like: 20w-0l-0d-20KO(5) - the number in the parenthesis being the 1-punch KO's. I think that will more clearly show the power of a boxer. I must be dreaming, heh.
Anywayz, I have to agree with my friend El Gamo here that Valero is young and has a huge potential. With a good trainer and more experience, who knows, he might become an unbeatable fighting machine someday.
That's the thing though bro,how de we know if they were bums? They may have been good?(doubt it though!) As for Mosquera taking the power,well,I was surpirsed too but I mean he was in front of his home fans and they seemed like passionate fans,it would have been a travesty to them if Loco had been ko'ed in the first round. Having watched the fight again,I think Valero still needs to improve his technique,he is too sloppy sometimes although you could see his boxing ability albeit limited at the moment,in the middle rounds and then,whenhe got his stamina back,he cushed Mosquera! I still think Valero is very green and needs more time and some decent opponents now but I mean he's been through 20 quic fights,now lets see some decent competition at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
http://ciudad.latinol.com//valero1000/stoppage.swf
PLEASE WAIT FOR FLASH FILE TO LOAD.
I guess they have no towels in this country.
As soon as Mosqueras corner was on apron, the ref should of stopped the fight.
In another note, did you all like the eye candy?
http://ciudad.latinol.com//valero1000/ss005.jpg
:lickish:
dup delete me
I just finished watching the fight myself a couple of min. ago very entertaining fight, Mosquera showed heart but his body had given up already.
Nice to see Valero isn't invinsible now people can shut up and put it to rest and let him do his thing. Similar to when JCC Jr got the draw on his record not many people are talking about it as before. IMO it was good that he tasted the canvas and he should use that as a confident booster to say 'Hey!!! I might not be invinsible but if I get knocked down I can get back up and win a fight'
Good for Valero.
exactly right Mick !
CC.
To the guys who made it possible for us to see Valero vs. Mosquera you know who you are. ;)
Boxing fan to boxing fan. You are totally wrong on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Vicente will be back and the stoppage wasn't too late to prevent a guaranteed 100% healthy return for Vicente.
By his corner or the ref. ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
come on bilbo. :)
Danny G bro,you wouldn't happen to know any of those girls names would,they were HOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!! I like the black haired one best!Dang!
yup. me too. lovely. :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Having just watched the fight again,I think all 3 are hot,I want them alllllll!!!!! O0 :lickish: ^-^Quote:
Originally Posted by Kkisser