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Holyfield: It's my Season!
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Thursday, September 7 2006
By Matt Richardson
In 42 days Evander Holyfield will turn 44 years old. In 64 days Evander Holyfield will fight in his 50th professional boxing match. While those numbers are high and indicate Holyfield should be completing (or should have already completed) his illustrious career, the former undisputed Cruiserweight and Heavyweight champion believes he has just opened a new door on his path to once again regaining the undisputed Heavyweight championship. "I am ready and I truly believe it's my season," Holyfield, 39-8-2, 26 KO's said to a packed house at Gallagher's Steakhouse in NYC on Thursday to announce his November 10th date against Fres Oquendo in a bout which will take place at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. FSN will televise in a special pay-per-view format
Photo: Ed Mulholland
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Good luck Holyfield in your quest :-\
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Evander has my support...Good Luck champ, Youv'e always been an inspiration
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Evander will lose this fight he is a fossil and shouldn't even be allowed to compete at this level imo... jeremy Bates was absolutely nothing we don't know Evander isn't at serious risk fighting a capable boxer, he is shot to bits...
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I don't know Oquendo's been put down like twice or something maybe Evander lands that sweet shot. But I agree with p4pking he should just retire already. I think he's just too old. He's not in bad shape or anything it's just he's pushing it too far and with that he's tarnishing is legacy. For example you look at Brett Farve. A lot of people love that guy almost like they love Evander, but Farve last year had an atrocious season 4-12, 29 INT and his lowest ever QB passer rating. Same thing with Evander the last 6-7 years he's lost more fights than he did the first 14 years in his career. He should just end it with that knockout in the books and become an announcer or promoter or something. But since this fight is going down. Evander good luck to you and hope you win.
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Oquendo was TKO by Ruiz for a combination that wable him.
But he did win in my eyes the fight against Byrd
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Originally Posted by Puya
Oquendo was TKO by Ruiz for a combination that wable him.
But he did win in my eyes the fight against Byrd
That says it all . Its a close fight but Holyfields overcome bigger obstacles than this b4
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Hey Jeremy bates is not world class fighter but for the couple of rds Holyfield looked good..If he can do what he did in that fight fir 10 rds he IMO could win a world title....Evanders problem before his license was revoked wasn't the fact he lost ability it was he couldn't pull the trigger anymore and was taking to much abuse...You dont forget how to fight or lose ability to know what to do it's you body that decides if you can do it or not...If Evander is in shape and the shoulder Really is what the problem was and it REALLY is fixed add that to the long rest and he has the skill to outbox almost anyguy out there...We all know he has the heart.. I guess we will find out if the shoulder was the problem or just an excuse soon enough..I wish him luck and hopes he can do it..if he starts to fade out again and takes an over abundance of abuse I hope he will be smart enough to know to quit and not wait til he is stripped of his license again.....JUST PLEASE DONT MAKE A DANCING WITH THE STARS COMEBACK
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i wish he would retire, but while hes doin his thing GIVE EM HELL WARRIOR!
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I said it before and I'll say it again I'm sure Evander's corner keeps a good eye on him during this comeback run, I doubt there going to let him sustain any prolonged damage during a fight, if he can hold his own and be more than competitive than he has every reason to keep chasing his goal I will support him 100% as a fan..
Its only if he takes a beating that I will follow most peoples sentiments that he should retire... At 44 he is still in the same fight shape he was 15 yrs ago the guy isin't an old out of shape Ali or Holmes he takes this stuff seriously and is taking every measure to make sure he puts himself in a position to have his best chance coming into fight as his usual focused, conditioned, prepared self who is always ready to battle.... He has more of those above menioned attributes than most in the division and the dignity and pride that goes with being a Champion...
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t 44 he is still in the same fight shape he was 15 yrs ago the guy isin't an old out of shape Ali or Holmes he takes this stuff seriously and is taking every measure to make sure he puts himself in a position to have his best chance coming into fight as his usual focused
Sorry bro, I can't understand, Holyfield is on the downside of his career, yes he was an all time great and books will still mention him as one of the best 90's boxer for sure.
but let faces the truth, he's faaaar past his prime and he could get seriously hurt in this game (remember in which shape is Georges page nowadays ?) this is insane...I mean he needs no more money but he's just running to catch up his ego..
Holyfield was a great great warrior, but c'mon he's not at this best he's far from being at the kind of shape he was 10years ago far far...
Beating Jeremy bates ? my god, this guy was a journeyman anyway I agree, he needed this kind of bout badly
Oquendo is far more serious, but beatable due to his long layoff...but after that ? I can understand that Holy has the tool to survive to any contender...but please I don't wanna see him hurt.
True lovers of Holyfield want his retirement from the ring.
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Originally Posted by SEB
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t 44 he is still in the same fight shape he was 15 yrs ago the guy isin't an old out of shape Ali or Holmes he takes this stuff seriously and is taking every measure to make sure he puts himself in a position to have his best chance coming into fight as his usual focused
Sorry bro, I can't understand, Holyfield is on the downside of his career, yes he was an all time great and books will still mention him as one of the best 90's boxer for sure.
but let faces the truth, he's faaaar past his prime and he could get seriously hurt in this game (remember in which shape is Georges page nowadays ?) this is insane...I mean he needs no more money but he's just running to catch up his ego..
Holyfield was a great great warrior, but c'mon he's not at this best he's far from being at the kind of shape he was 10years ago far far...
Beating Jeremy bates ? my god, this guy was a journeyman anyway I agree, he needed this kind of bout badly
Oquendo is far more serious, but beatable due to his long layoff...but after that ? I can understand that Holy has the tool to survive to any contender...but please I don't wanna see him hurt.
True lovers of Holyfield want his retirement from the ring.
You mean to tell me you cant look at Evanders physical condition now and 15 yrs ago and can see a difference??? it's quite obvious at 44 he still eats right dedicates himself to conditioning and is chiseled like stone..
All my point was that if he is going to press forward with his goals, he is doing everything physically possible to put himself in the best position to do so...
And sorry I am a Huge fan of Evander, if he wants to compete and is capable of doing so then so be it, your not a doctor if he is fit to carry on with out any serious reprecussions then let the man do what he does best and chase his dream...
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i wish holyfield the best, and if he has to fight, i want him to win, im sure we all do. But being in good physical condition means nothing when your brain is turning to soup. I love the guy, he's my favorite boxer of all time. I just dont want to see him braindead.
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
i wish holyfield the best, and if he has to fight, i want him to win, im sure we all do. But being in good physical condition means nothing when your brain is turning to soup. I love the guy, he's my favorite boxer of all time. I just dont want to see him braindead.
Again agreed!!!! But he is doing everything physically possible to put him self in a good position..The better shape he's in the more alert he is, the more mobile he is and better reaction time and wont fatigue as quickly which will help him keep his hands up.....
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Evander better hope the road to another championship is short and paved with mediocre competition.
He himself knows it's mission impossible. Evander is looking to pad is wallet.
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pad his wallet? main objective? no
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
pad his wallet? main objective? no
Something tells me Holyfield is not in need of money!!! ::**...I hope???? lol....
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Thing is, I'm sure the break freshened Holyfield up, the injuries have healed, and he looked good beating an insurance salesman...but he would of easily beat that guy and guys of that level before the lay off.
Bates was the quickest and only the 5th stoppage for Holyfield since he beat Douglas 16 years ago. He has long grueling fights ahead against any of the top, half decent, heavyweights out there and that's where the problems arise...
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I think Holyfield will prove a lot off people wrong...
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I think Holy could pull this outta the bag! However if he looses that is it,RETIRE! PERIOD!
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Originally Posted by SEB
True lovers of Holyfield want his retirement from the ring.
Hmm well maybe not.
I know the point you are making but still you might be wrong to categorize folks that disagree with you as being something other than 'true lovers' of Holyfield.
I'd love to see him clean up the division and retire on his own terms.
Certainly there is a matter of being sensible but there's enough rationale for his continuing that I think - in the end - it's the hurt business - hopefully no one gets damaged - but there are many reasons not to be in the ring.
Youth. Inexperience. Age. Incompetence. The fact that it is possible to get damaged regardless of whether you are in your prime or not.
Some things increase likelihood of getting hurt. Age is one. Just one.
There are also still many reasons not to step into the ring to fight Holyfield, even a Holyfield of his present age.
Fres may just find that out. So may some others.
Since we have no control over the matter, I'm hoping so.
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Originally Posted by SEB
True lovers of Holyfield want his retirement from the ring.
Boxing is what Evander loves to do, a person gets into the sport for love of the game, this is what Evander knows, and does for a living. He should have the right to fight on , as long as he pass his medical exams , he has earned the right to make a living , can he get hurt? Sure he can. Is boxing a dangerous profession?? Sure its , so is a firefighter, or policeman, but they do that shit for an average of only $27,000 a year.. Risk reward ratio.. For a few million dollars, its worth the risk. Evander spends a lot of money, that 27,000 SQFT house in Georgia isn’t free. Taxes - electri on that alone is astronomical .My point is Evander has the right to fight and pay the bills just like anyone else do.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by SEB
True lovers of Holyfield want his retirement from the ring.
Boxing is what Evander loves to do, a person gets into the sport for love of the game, this is what Evander knows, and does for a living. He should have the right to fight on , as long as he pass his medical exams , he has earned the right to make a living , can he get hurt? Sure he can. Is boxing a dangerous profession??
Sure its , so is a firefighter, or policeman, but they do that S*** for an average of only $27,000 a year.. Risk reward ratio.. For a few million dollars, its worth the risk. Evander spends a lot of money, that 27,000 SQFT house in Georgia isn’t free. Taxes - electri on that alone is astronomical .My point is Evander has the right to fight and pay the bills just like anyone else do.
I hate to break it to you...but his house is the least of his problem.
Evander needs to be snipped.
Holy's got like nine kids. Three with his first wife from 1991 and five born out of wedlock to four loose scandalous women.
Two of those rug rats were popped out of wedlock in the same year with other girlfriends.
Respect Holy. Your'e the man. Praise the Lord. You are blessed. ::**
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
;D
Three photos signifying an action that Evander needs to take...
#1: Evander
#2: A sock
#3: A pickle that looks suprisingly like a green :willydance:
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that’s ruff ! LMFAO that’s ruff
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when evander becomes world champion again i want my
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Heh heh heh.
You know...as a mod...I expect more from myself...but c'mon...wer'e talking about me here. :drunks:
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:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight. If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
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Originally Posted by Starr
:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight. If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
He looked impressive against...errrrrrrrrm...what was that guy's name? Oh well.
Who's the chee-kah on the crapper in that photo? ;D Heh heh heh.
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Hard to believe this guy is now almost 44 yrs. I've said it before ...........
I believe that boxing should have a masters division.
They should keep this record seperate from regular pro record so they don't tarnish their own legacy.
and yes people will pay (Maybe not as much but they will pay) to see old champions fight against each other again.... It would be for fighters who are from 40 to 50 years old. This way they still get to fight and make a little extra money.
Holyfield was my all time fav but I really don't want to see him get in with some of these newer guys with less mileage.
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
Hard to believe this guy is now almost 44 yrs. I've said it before ...........
I believe that boxing should have a masters division.
They should keep this record seperate from regular pro record so they don't tarnish their own legacy.
and yes people will pay (Maybe not as much but they will pay) to see old champions fight against each other again.... It would be for fighters who are from 40 to 50 years old. This way they still get to fight and make a little extra money.
Holyfield was my all time fav but I really don't want to see him get in with some of these newer guys with less mileage.
Totally agree.
6 rounders with Hill, Bowe, Hearns, Holy, Foreman, Tyson, & the likes.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight.  If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
He looked impressive against...errrrrrrrrm...what was that guy's name? Oh well.
Who's the chee-kah on the crapper in that photo?  ;D  Heh heh heh.
you have an eye
I don't know...maybe perhaps your SSSP.  Maybe its Miss Dnt give a F! Of course that side of me comes out when I'm mad :-\  Or on the 23rd... ;D
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight. If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
He looked impressive against...errrrrrrrrm...what was that guy's name? Oh well.
Who's the chee-kah on the crapper in that photo? ;D Heh heh heh.
you have an eye
I don't know...maybe perhaps your SSSP. Maybe its Miss Dnt give a F! Of course that side of me comes out when I'm mad :-\ Or on the 23rd... ;D
:-X
I never trust anything that bleeds for 23 days & doesn't die.
Heh heh heh.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
Hard to believe this guy is now almost 44 yrs. I've said it before ...........
I believe that boxing should have a masters division.
They should keep this record seperate from regular pro record so they don't tarnish their own legacy.
and yes people will pay (Maybe not as much but they will pay) to see old champions fight against each other again.... It would be for fighters who are from 40 to 50 years old. This way they still get to fight and make a little extra money.
Holyfield was my all time fav but I really don't want to see him get in with some of these newer guys with less mileage.
Totally agree.
6 rounders with Hill, Bowe, Hearns, Holy, Foreman, Tyson, & the likes.
I really don't see why no one has thought of this yet...it's so sell-able. Easy money. Must be some potential problem I'm not seeing.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
I never trust anything that bleeds for 23 days & doesn't die.
Heh heh heh.
LMFAO !
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight. If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
He looked impressive against...errrrrrrrrm...what was that guy's name? Oh well.
Who's the chee-kah on the crapper in that photo? ;D Heh heh heh.
you have an eye
I don't know...maybe perhaps your SSSP. Maybe its Miss Dnt give a F! Of course that side of me comes out when I'm mad :-\ Or on the 23rd... ;D
:-X
I never trust anything that bleeds for 23 days & doesn't die.
Heh heh heh.
:coolclick:
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Starr
:dontknow: Evander looked impressive in his last fight. If he's Wladimer he will be fighting for a vacant championship(even if it isnt major) soon
He looked impressive against...errrrrrrrrm...what was that guy's name? Oh well.
Who's the chee-kah on the crapper in that photo? ;D Heh heh heh.
you have an eye
I don't know...maybe perhaps your SSSP. Maybe its Miss Dnt give a F! Of course that side of me comes out when I'm mad :-\ Or on the 23rd... ;D
:-X
I never trust anything that bleeds for 23 days & doesn't die.
Heh heh heh.
:coolclick:
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry SSSP, wacko can't repeat a karma action without waiting 24 hours.
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
Hard to believe this guy is now almost 44 yrs. I've said it before ...........
I believe that boxing should have a masters division.
They should keep this record seperate from regular pro record so they don't tarnish their own legacy.
and yes people will pay (Maybe not as much but they will pay) to see old champions fight against each other again.... It would be for fighters who are from 40 to 50 years old. This way they still get to fight and make a little extra money.
Holyfield was my all time fav but I really don't want to see him get in with some of these newer guys with less mileage.
Totally agree.
6 rounders with Hill, Bowe, Hearns, Holy, Foreman, Tyson, & the likes.
I really don't see why no one has thought of this yet...it's so sell-able. Easy money. Must be some potential problem I'm not seeing.
Agreed. :coolclick:
For some reason...I've always been down for a "Senior's Boxing Tour"...I know it sounds backwards...but less rounds & opponents the same age just seems safer to me...even though they always say that power is the last thing to go.
