Ok well i recently bought some creatine monohydrate and to be exact its this bottle here.
How much do i take?
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Ok well i recently bought some creatine monohydrate and to be exact its this bottle here.
How much do i take?
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It should say, I've never supplimented the creatine in my diet, get it all from food so I wouldn't feel confident telling you what to takes with out having the experience myself.
I researched it for a little unit in college, I got a lot of my info off this site:
http://www.absolute-creatine.com/
Seems impartial, they have nothing to gain from telling you to over use the stuff (they don't sell it so they won't profit from you guzzling down stupid amounts of it) ;)
I Have Another Question About Creatine
Ok The Tub Of It THat I Got Has 270 Servings In it and Cost Me 20 Dollers Well There Was A Tub Of 10 Servings For 12 Dollers Why Is The 10 Serving One So Freeken Exspensive???
There are different types of creatine and the manufacter's all charge different... you generally get what you pay for... some of it is not very pure creatine. (so I hear... I know this is true... I just don't know what else is in it if it isn't creatine...)
well My Tub That I Bought Says Pure Creatine But THey COuld Be Lieing :lickish:
But Im Going To Stop Using It Becuz I Dont Think i Really Need It
well ive only been taking it for like 3 days and ive noticed an increase in my muscle size. its working to me, but peoples bodies are different and some people it might now work for.. O0
Yeah But Im Not Into The Whole Size Gaining I Want to Stay At 135-140 So Im Gonna Do Everything Natural ;D
If I Need Creatine Im Gonna Eat Some Red Meat Like Adam Says
sure you'll get 'size' but what's that good for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelius
How has your strength increased? Most people who eat a lot of meat get so little of a performance increase that it's not worth the money what so ever.
I did a course of creatine a few yrs back and most the muscle size gained, is water and will be lost when your creatine cycle ends. There can also be some side effects that would affect ur training.
Do as adam says an get what you need from a healthy balanced diet.
cc Adam.
Cheers cc ;)
Agreed CC
But Adam You Said
So With That Statement your saying what Cuz you Were Telling Me To Eat Meat And Not Creatine But Now Your Saying Meat Is Not Worth ItQuote:
Most people who eat a lot of meat get so little of a performance increase that it's not worth the money what so ever.
Or Was It A Miswritten Thing??? Get Back to Me ON This Im Freeken Out
;D
no, I mean if ou eat a fair amount of meat then the benefits of creatine supplimentation are so small it's not worth the money for suppliments ;)
ok man you were scaring me there :P
cuz i was like screw creatine im gonna go natural then you come back with saying something about little affects of meat :o
but thanks Adam
Yeah ive noticed a big increase in strength, from what it use to be. An im running a nice routine as it is so i can keep my stuff nice but not all bulky muscle and slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
creatine itself isnt actually a muscle building compund, it allows for increased ATP (energy) to your muslces. it aids in very hard excersize, allowing you togo for longer. using creatine and doing the same workout at before will result in no addition muscle gain, all it does it help you do more
it is true that part of the process of creatine working involves water transport to your muscles, giving you that "fuller" look. however the increase of water means you need to drink more, and youll gain weight... something that boxers arent keen on atall.
the reason some creatine costs more than others is because of the actual type of creatine. you can get creatine monohydrate, creatine esthyl ether and many more. each have slightly different ways of working, creatine esthyl ether (CEE) for instance is a faster acting form of creatine, and therefore the endurance gains kick in quicker... so its more expensive.
important for boxers: creatine mainly effects you when your going all out. im talking when your hitting as hard and as fast as you can, or when your almost at breaking point during those pressups. it wont help you when you go jogging, or if your just lightly shadow boxing.
when your on creatine remember: you must drink alot of water for it to work.
creatine must be cycled. you take 4 weeks on and 2 weeks off, otherwise your body gets used to it, and the effects wear off significantly. in the first 5 days you might want to take higher doses (if you think its safe) as it forces your liver to accept it, and your body to use it.
you shouldnt be using these things if your 16, and even then id reccomend 18+
my brother wrote this information, hes a boxer, but also a bodybuilder and has been using creating and other supplements for ages, if you have any questions PM me and hell try and help. hes a biology student and knows alot about nutrition, fitness and body development!
red meat contains some creatine, but not nearly in the kind of quantaties that powders and pills can provide. youd have to eat 20 steaks to get a days worth of pills, and then youd be heavy and bloated... not so useful for boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Boxerjl
can provide, they are only really superior if you are consuming the insane amount that people take during a loading phase, or if you want to intake more than what is necessary to maintain your creatine levels.
Assuming you have been training and eating red meat for a while then your creatine threshold won't be much less than some one who has saturated themselves with it.
You can't load up quickly on creatine like you can with supplements, but a lot of people including me don't see the loading phase as beneficial or necessary, more of a 'get muscles quick' affair... I'm in this for the long run anyway. ;)
I took creatine for about two months. I noticed a pretty large gain in my strength and endurance. The downside is that I jumped from about 200 lbs to around 220 lbs VERY quickly. That didn't really bother me, because I don't compete yet, but if you're already competing, or are looking to compete, that can be a HUGE detriment. 20 lbs can mean the difference in fighting someone your size to fighting someone a foot taller than you :P
P.S. Reason I quit creatine was because my job changed hours, so I couldn't get to the gym as often as I'd need to in order to make creatine really worth it, not because it quit working or anything. But on the other hand, I've since started working out again WITHOUT the creatine and have just as much endurance and strength as I did on the creatine, but I'm still around the 200lbs mark. So take from that what you will.
kk Thanks I Will ;D
No More Creatine For Me
That's because your diet alone must be maintaining your creatine threshold, like I say, given the right Amino acids (which you will get from complete protiens found in meat) your body will produce creatine by itself and it is found in most meats any way ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy D
so creatine is for people who dont eat healthy enouph???
Cuz If You Can Get All you Need From Protein Or Meat Why use Creatine?
Because most people's diets are pish... ;)
You think a conditioning freak like Rocky Marciano had to take cocktails of powders to be that explosive? or a young Mike Tyson to be that powerful? ;)
They just ate right, they do have a use, but don't be fooled, they are not the magic pills supplement companies would have you believe they are... :)
Yeah I Know But Like I Said Ill Will Just Have To Start Eating Healthyer But Thats Hard For Me Becuz IM 17 And Catn Get A Job yet ANd Pretty Much Have To Eat Whatever We have For Dinner Which Usually Is Like Rice Dish And Stuff So We Usually Eat Alot Of Rice And Alot Of Hamburger And Alot Of Potatoes Like In Sheppards Pie Which If You Dont Know Is Like Hamburger mixed with like corn green beens brown gravy and covered with mashed potatoes
so Like I Said I Cant Change My Diet Cuz I Eat What They Serve
thats what my dad usually fixes on his night to cook now on my moms night to cook
we usually have ;D
Pizza Hut
Mc Donalds
Subway
;D
My Favortie Is Subway So We Usually Eat There
Not to pry, but why can't you get a job if you're 17? I've been working since i was 14. McDonalds will hire literally ANYBODY and you can work almost any hours you can dream up for yourself. Even if you can't work often, any little bit of money helps.
I was on building sites when I was 17 but it depends on how much he does at school and what he wants to do etc... ;)
theres no way I'm working at McDonald's There To Many people and in my town people get like 5-10 hours a week which is worthless.
the reason i cant get a job is Because no one has hired me i have put in tons of applications but have not been hired..
But I'm Starting A Job In October
I Live In A SMALL Town So there Aren't Very Many Businesses
Be your own boss working as a personal trainer. All you need is a confident manner and appear to know what your talking about. Market yourself with homemade posters as 100% effective, guarantee results and all that stuff. Get people to sign-up over the phone or via email and pay in advance for a twelve week course, then take the fatties that sign-up for a two hour walk 4 times a week. Who knows it might take off then you could franchise it. ;D
i wouldnt just take them for a walk i would make them work there asses off
Doing Alot Of Cardio And Some Bag Work :D