1984 US Olympic Team

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10-15-2006, 02:42 AM
El Kabong

1984 US Olympic Team

This is one of the BEST Olympic classes EVER assembled.

Light Flyweight GOLD MEDAL Paul Gonzales 16-4 Pro record as a Flyweight

Flyweight GOLD MEDAL Steven McCrory 30 (12 KO)-5-1 Pro record as a Super Bantamweight (died at 36 of an undisclosed illness)

Featherweight GOLD MEDAL Meldrick Taylor 38 (20 KO)-8-1 Pro record from 140-154

Lightweight GOLD MEDAL Pernell Whittaker 40 (17 KO)-4-1 Pro record from 135-154

Light Welterweight GOLD MEDAL Jerry Page 11 (5 KO)-4-0 Pro record at 147

Welterweight GOLD MEDAL Mark Breland 35 (25 KO)-3-1 Pro record at 147

Light Middleweight GOLD MEDAL Frank Tate 41(24 KO)-5-0 Pro record from 160-175

Middleweight SILVER MEDAL Virgil Hill 50 (23 KO)-5-0 Pro record at light heavyweight and cruiserweight

Light Heavyweight BRONZE MEDAL Evander Holyfield 39 (26 KO)-8-2 Pro record at cruiserweight and heavyweight

Heavyweight GOLD MEDAL Henry Tillman 25 (16 KO)-6-0 Pro record at Heavyweight

Super Heavyweight GOLD MEDAL Tyrell Biggs 30 (20 KO)-10-0 Pro record at Heavyweight

Will we ever see another one of these classes???
10-15-2006, 02:51 AM
Taeth

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Nope its only going to get worse, but also wasn't the 1988 team pretty good aswell?
10-15-2006, 02:57 AM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

106: Michael Carbajal, Phoenix, Ariz. (2nd)
112: Arthur Johnson, Minneapolis, Minn.
119: Kennedy McKinney, Killeen, Texas (1st)
125: Kelcie Banks, Chicago, Ill.
132: Romallis Ellis, Ellenwood, Ga. (3rd)
139: Todd Foster, Great Falls, Mt.
147: Kenneth Gould, Rockford, Ill. (3rd)
156: Roy Jones, Pensacola, Fla. (2nd)
165: Anthony Hembrick, Army/Ft. Bragg, N.C.
178: Andrew Maynard, Army/Ft. Carson, Colo. (1st)
201: Ray Mercer, Army (1st)
+201: Riddick Bowe, Brooklyn, N.Y. (2nd)

Decent but a little worse
10-15-2006, 06:39 PM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Did England ever have a good Olympic boxing team???

That 1984 US team was AMAZING in that they ALL won at least silver and then most went on to have great pro careers
10-15-2006, 11:14 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

That was a hell of a team....Here is something I didn't know...I though Evander won bronze?....Don't know why :-\....It just happened to be one of those things that come along seldom...We have had so man good guy's who became legends or at least P4P fighters over the years from the Olympic team...Ali, Foreman, DLH, Taylor to name a few but never so man good guys at one time
10-15-2006, 11:18 PM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

...I stand corrected (cc)
10-15-2006, 11:25 PM
OumaFan

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Pretty sure Holyfield was disqualified in the semifinal. Landed a punch out of a clinch or after the bell, can't remember that pretty much KO'd the guy that used to be Tua's trainer, maybe his name was Berry, I think?
10-15-2006, 11:29 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...I stand corrected (cc)

CC back at ya I thought I had been thinking the wrong thing all these years lol
10-16-2006, 12:43 AM
Scrap

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Holyfield was unlucky, he was murdering the guy. In fact during the prelims he stood out as the best prospects to win something as a pro in my opinion.
10-16-2006, 10:41 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list
10-16-2006, 12:19 PM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

man have any of u guys seen the 84 us hw selection trials tyson vs tillman,he was f...ing ripped ,tyson nearly chased him out of the ring both times and a kd...he was cheated out of a gold medal,,fook i hate amature scoring/judging
10-16-2006, 12:41 PM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!
10-16-2006, 12:45 PM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!

i know what im saying is if tyson didnt ripped in the sd against tillman and he was competing for medals biggs wouldnt have won gold
10-16-2006, 04:19 PM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

How is that? Tyson fought at HEAVYWEIGHT not SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT
10-17-2006, 02:29 AM
DaxxKahn

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!

Actually the Amatuer scoring methods have improved a lot but either way it is effective it teachs a fighter something...The clean punch scoring is better than agressor, ring generalship ect crap.....It helps eliminate many of the hometown decision losses ( except when it is very close) It also makes a guy fight and not go for the one punch knockout scoring.....Makes fighters more well rounded...Offense and defense...My guys hav3e been on the short end a few times in the Amatuers not saying it doesn't happen but It is more for the better than worse..
10-17-2006, 03:17 AM
bigragu

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!

Actually the Amatuer scoring methods have improved a lot but either way it is effective it teachs a fighter something...The clean punch scoring is better than agressor, ring generalship ect crap.....It helps eliminate many of the hometown decision losses ( except when it is very close) It also makes a guy fight and not go for the one punch knockout scoring.....Makes fighters more well rounded...Offense and defense...My guys hav3e been on the short end a few times in the Amatuers not saying it doesn't happen but It is more for the better than worse..

yeah...the scoring is better.....but the promoters of the amateur fights are less than horrendous!!!! They purposely try to get mismatches for the home guys...I know you want the Home boy to win but it is not ethical and shows horrible sportsmanship...which is why I don't let my fighters fight in St. Louis anymore...
10-17-2006, 03:18 AM
bigragu

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Did England ever have a good Olympic boxing team???

That 1984 US team was AMAZING in that they ALL won at least silver and then most went on to have great pro careers

both of those were great....and 1992 wasn't that bad......ODLH????
10-17-2006, 07:25 AM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

I thought it was Tillman who beat him... Twice... At the Olympic trials?
10-17-2006, 10:03 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!

hh

Actually the Amatuer scoring methods have improved a lot but either way it is effective it teachs a fighter something...The clean punch scoring is better than agressor, ring generalship ect crap.....It helps eliminate many of the hometown decision losses ( except when it is very close) It also makes a guy fight and not go for the one punch knockout scoring.....Makes fighters more well rounded...Offense and defense...My guys hav3e been on the short end a few times in the Amatuers not saying it doesn't happen but It is more for the better than worse..

sorry matey but i have to disagree their, i believe that the scoring system is a load of shite!for example if you knock a fighter down with a heavy blow and hurt him badly if he gets up and paws at u with three nothing jabs he wins the round like with tyson tillman same thing..and the amature method of developing a fighter didnt help much with tillman,we all know what mike did to him in there third encounter,anyway just an oppinion bro!
10-17-2006, 10:08 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

How is that? Tyson fought at HEAVYWEIGHT not SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT

oh yeah my bad ,hey just curious whats the weight difference between hw and shw because in the pros tillman was really a cruiser and biggs was just little heavyer than tyson at about 225lb,please correct me if im wrong im sure u will cc cool thread
10-17-2006, 10:14 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

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Originally Posted by JimBoogie

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

I thought it was Tillman who beat him... Twice... At the Olympic trials?

tillman did beat him twice but the dicission was outragous this fight is especially why i dispise amature scoring,he was cheated out of a gold medal
10-17-2006, 11:34 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by stavros693000

if tyson haddnt got ripped off on selection tyrell wouldnt even be on the list

Actually Henry Tillman eliminated Mike Tyson. Tillman beat Mike TWICE in the amateurs.....only to go on to get WHUPPED by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.

Go amateur scoring!

hh

Actually the Amatuer scoring methods have improved a lot but either way it is effective it teachs a fighter something...The clean punch scoring is better than agressor, ring generalship ect crap.....It helps eliminate many of the hometown decision losses ( except when it is very close) It also makes a guy fight and not go for the one punch knockout scoring.....Makes fighters more well rounded...Offense and defense...My guys hav3e been on the short end a few times in the Amatuers not saying it doesn't happen but It is more for the better than worse..

sorry matey but i have to disagree their, i believe that the scoring system is a load of shite!for example if you knock a fighter down with a heavy blow and hurt him badly if he gets up and paws at u with three nothing jabs he wins the round like with tyson tillman same thing..and the amature method of developing a fighter didnt help much with tillman,we all know what mike did to him in there third encounter,anyway just an oppinion bro!

sorry matey i have to disagree their,i beleive that the scoring system is a load of shite! for example if u knock a fighter down with a heavy blow and hurt him badly if he gets up and paws at u with 3 nothing jabs he wins the round like with tyson tillman same thing...and the amature method of developing a fighter didnt help much with tillman,we all know what mike did to him in there third encounter,anyway just an oppinion bro...peace ;)
10-17-2006, 08:06 PM
killersheep

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle

Did England ever have a good Olympic boxing team???

That 1984 US team was AMAZING in that they ALL won at least silver and then most went on to have great pro careers

Amir Khan was the only one that won a medal (silver) in 2004 that I know of

Audley Harrison was the only one that won a medal (gold) in 2000 that I know of

last time that GB won multiple medals was in 1972
Ralph Evans = Bronze = Light Flyweight (no record as a pro)
Alan Minter = Bronze = Light Middleweight (39-9-0 with 23 KOs)(won multiple titles)
George Turpin = Bronze = Bantam weight (11-3-2 with 5 KOs)(fought a bunch of nobodies and retired after 4 years as a pro)
10-18-2006, 08:54 AM
a harmful of swallows

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

don't forget that 1996 US team w/ Floyd, David Diaz (curent interim beltholder at 135), Antonio Tarver and Vargas.

Olumpic boxing needs to take a serious look at it's scoring system........ and then make UFC an event.
10-18-2006, 08:57 AM
a harmful of swallows

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

also it's worth noting that the commies boycotted these games. :-X
10-18-2006, 09:01 AM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Why?
10-18-2006, 09:25 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

ive only got 8 posts to go and i can start cc and scing people HAHAHA!!!!!!so im just gonna fill this thread up with shite in order to reach my goal!!! ;D
10-18-2006, 09:27 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

7 posts to go!
10-18-2006, 09:27 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

6!!!!!sorry lyle
10-18-2006, 09:28 AM
stavros693000

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:badass:
10-18-2006, 09:30 AM
stavros693000

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5!! im on a mission no stoppin me now ha ha ;D
10-18-2006, 09:30 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

4 :o
10-18-2006, 09:31 AM
stavros693000

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3!!!!ps lenox lewis is a bitch!!!!!
10-18-2006, 09:32 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

2!!!! ......holyfeild is a bitch too!!!!!!
10-18-2006, 09:36 AM
stavros693000

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

shit i reached 100 at 2,i always did suck at math!!!!! :sadclick: ....ha ha ha!!! :coolclick:...................SWeeeeeeeeT!!!!
10-18-2006, 04:32 PM
El Kabong

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBoogie

Why?

I believe they were in Los Angles and the US boycotted in 1980 when they were in Moscow.

Wouldn't have mattered anyways. The Soviets never had great teams in the 80's anyways....and the Cubans use old guys to fight they are never good as pros
10-18-2006, 06:56 PM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: 1984 US Olympic Team

I was just about to askabout the cubans.

I always assumed the cubans wanted no part of the money hungry industry of Pro Boxing?

There just crap without the headgear on then? ::**

Bunch of Audley Cubans! >:mad

;D