Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
WE have speculated about if the Calzaghe vs Kessler fight was going to happen, it seems that the fight is closer now.
According to a Danish newspaper. Frank Warren insist that thefight only will happen in UK and the Danish promotor has now accepted. They have an interview with Kesslers danish promotor Mogens Palle who says
"we are trying to makes this fight happen, that is the fight we are most interrested in"
" We are going to make objective and valid calculations and then we hope that Frank Warren has real intentions about making the fight. Maybe he claims we are demanding to much money so he has an excuse for not letting Kessler meet Calzaghe"
"The first WBC challenger Librado Andrade will get paid to wait and have done so before"
(my own translation O0 )
The Danish promotor fears that Calzaghe will meet a mister nobody since Frank Warren keep talking about Calzaghe have earned a 20. titeldefense in the UK.
The second obstacle is of course if Andrade will accept to wait again.
I really hope this fight is going to happen ;)
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Lets be fair there is no chance of a fight with Kessler. To be honest if Calzaghe took on Andrade I would be more than happy.
I fear it will be probably be someone we have never heard of yet again.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by thewhale
WE have speculated about if the Calzaghe vs Kessler fight was going to happen, it seems that the fight is closer now.
According to a Danish newspaper. Frank Warren insist that thefight only will happen in UK and the Danish promotor has now accepted. They have an interview with Kesslers danish promotor Mogens Palle who says
"we are trying to makes this fight happen, that is the fight we are most interrested in"
" We are going to make objective and valid calculations and then we hope that Frank Warren has real intentions about making the fight. Maybe he claims we are demanding to much money so he has an excuse for not letting Kessler meet Calzaghe"
"The first WBC challenger Librado Andrade will get paid to wait and have done so before"
(my own translation O0 )
The Danish promotor fears that Calzaghe will meet a mister nobody since Frank Warren keep talking about Calzaghe have earned a 20. titeldefense in the UK.
The second obstacle is of course if Andrade will accept to wait again.
I really hope this fight is going to happen ;)
well atleast it looks better than the other news we had * i will not fight kessler*
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Hang on, Calzaghe's never said "i will not fight Kessler" has he? The "I will not fight Kessler" thread could of been interpreted as - "who the fuck is Kessler, I'll fight him if Frank says so but i'd rather fight a top American"
If FW tells him he's fighting Kessler he'll fight Kessler, simple as.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Maybe I was to quick one of my friends told me that according to the EB another danish newspaper that usually writs about boxing. Frank Warren and Calzaghe don't want to fight Kessler instead Calzaghe is going to beat Peter Manfredo Jr. and after that win he is going to meet Jermain Tyler later on. Mandredo Jr was runner up in the TV show the contender hahhahaha
Manfredo JR.
2006-10-14 167¾ Joe Spina 168 19-0-1 W TKO 3 12
2006-02-13 167½ Scott Pemberton 168 29-4-1 W TKO 3 10
2005-10-15 162 Sergio Mora 160 16-0-0 L SD 8 8
2005-05-24 159 Sergio Mora 160 15-0-0 L UD
W 26 (12 ko's) | L 3
Hope they are wrong :P let see if they wil hype M.J op till something BIG ;)
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by thewhale
Maybe I was to quick one of my friends told me that according to the EB another danish newspaper that usually writs about boxing. Frank Warren and Calzaghe don't want to fight Kessler instead Calzaghe is going to beat Peter Manfredo Jr. and after that win he is going to meet Jermain Tyler later on. Mandredo Jr was runner up in the TV show the contender hahhahaha
Manfredo JR.
2006-10-14 167¾ Joe Spina 168 19-0-1 W TKO 3 12
2006-02-13 167½ Scott Pemberton 168 29-4-1 W TKO 3 10
2005-10-15 162 Sergio Mora 160 16-0-0 L SD 8 8
2005-05-24 159 Sergio Mora 160 15-0-0 L UD
W 26 (12 ko's) | L 3
Hope they are wrong :P let see if they wil hype M.J op til something BIG ;)
Well they tried getting Manfredo before Calzaghe was injured in July but apparently Manfredo wanted $1.5million, so his stock has only gone up after his last win so i doubt this fight would be able to made, Kessler is the one but we know what Frankys like, id say we will be looking at 1.William Joop or another old Middleweight maybe Howard Eastman??
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Alan Green maybe ;)
He wouldn't be any better than Manfredo imo.. Has looked real bad lately.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Alan Green maybe ;)
He wouldn't be any better than Manfredo imo.. Has looked real bad lately.
I think that was the point of the post. ;)
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Lets be fair there is no chance of a fight with Kessler. To be honest if Calzaghe took on Andrade I would be more than happy.
I fear it will be probably be someone we have never heard of yet again.
Yeah...the attitude of Frank Warren since the fight has done nothing but make me fear it will be another bum. My tip would be Omar Sheika, who has recently been spouting off on www.fightnews.com about wanting another big fight, and after whupping him last time, I could see him get another shot at Calzaghe.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Said it once...I'll say it again...I'll be SHOCKED AS FWOCK if this fight get's made.
Someone either get's injured or demands too much money.
Wait & see. ;)
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
Whatever people say about this fight has already been said bfore the Lacy fight, no one gave a sh*t about Kessler before Lacy got shown up now everyone is looking for someone else that may be able to beat Joe but I dont think its gonna be Kessler, he is to slow robotic and basic, he doesnt know how to move out tyhe way of a punch
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by ross
Whatever people say about this fight has already been said bfore the Lacy fight, no one gave a sh*t about Kessler before Lacy got shown up now everyone is looking for someone else that may be able to beat Joe but I dont think its gonna be Kessler, he is to slow robotic and basic, he doesnt know how to move out tyhe way of a punch
Actually what I've seen from Kessler I've been impressed. He dominated Mundine in his backyard despite Mundine giving probably his career best performance and he got rid of Beyer in 3 easy rounds. He was impressive over Eric Lucas well.
Thats all the fights oh his I've seen but from those three he looks strong, and an intelligent fighter.
I fear he could be a far bigger handful for Calzaghe than you realise.
I'd also wager that if this fight does happen it will be because Kessler is willing to concede negotiations to Joe.
I can imagine Kessler coming to the UK to get his shot, I can imagine him agreeing to less money than Joe.
Joe, and I love him he's my favourite fighter, is so frustratingly obtuse when it comes to negotiations that he talks himself out of any big name fights.
I get the impression with Kessler that he is more willing to face the best than Joe is.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
I really hope that this fight is made, even if it looks unlikely at present. I feel Calzaghe would be cheating his fans if he doesnt take it.
I hate the petty "No, you come to me" attitude that both camps have displayed (especially as Calzaghe increasingly talks of his 'legacy'). It would be a disgrace if location was the only thing which stopped the unification bout. The obvious thing to do would be to pick a neutral venue in that case - Germany, for example, has a healthy boxing fan base.
Lately Joe has been saying that making super-middle weight is draining him and he wants to move up (talk of facing Woods for his light-heavy belt, for example). Well, the bout with Kessler would be the perfect goodbye to the division. If the fight isnt made, then his legacy will be a nagging doubt as to who was really the best at super-middle, and no-one wants that.
I think/hope he should face Kessler then move up - he owes it to the fans as I feel that he has wasted time since the impressive Lacy win. The Bika fight was awful and he didnt look good at all. True, Bika is a rough and awkward customer, but Joe made himself look stupid with all that ridiculous and severly out-of-place showboating imo.
He should unify all four major SMW belts, then go after Woods and his IBF light-heavy belt - thats another match-up the British fans would drool over. He should drop all talk of RJJ, beating him is nothing these days (hell, Id run Roy close lol), and drop all talk of ever facing Taylor/Wright also - they are always going to be below him weight wise at this stage of his career.
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by Bumface
I really hope that this fight is made, even if it looks unlikely at present. I feel Calzaghe would be cheating his fans if he doesnt take it.
I hate the petty "No, you come to me" attitude that both camps have displayed (especially as Calzaghe increasingly talks of his 'legacy'). It would be a disgrace if location was the only thing which stopped the unification bout. The obvious thing to do would be to pick a neutral venue in that case - Germany, for example, has a healthy boxing fan base.
Lately Joe has been saying that making super-middle weight is draining him and he wants to move up (talk of facing Woods for his light-heavy belt, for example). Well, the bout with Kessler would be the perfect goodbye to the division. If the fight isnt made, then his legacy will be a nagging doubt as to who was really the best at super-middle, and no-one wants that.
I think/hope he should face Kessler then move up - he owes it to the fans as I feel that he has wasted time since the impressive Lacy win. The Bika fight was awful and he didnt look good at all. True, Bika is a rough and awkward customer, but Joe made himself look stupid with all that ridiculous and severly out-of-place showboating imo.
He should unify all four major SMW belts, then go after Woods and his IBF light-heavy belt - thats another match-up the British fans would drool over. He should drop all talk of RJJ, beating him is nothing these days (hell, Id run Roy close lol), and drop all talk of ever facing Taylor/Wright also - they are always going to be below him weight wise at this stage of his career.
Well in a recent interview calzaghe named kessler as one of the 3 fights that if he could have he would next.. (taylor/hopkins the other to - see El gamos thread about it) - so maybe things are getting closer for them 2 fight, 'coz taylor is fighting soon and wont be ready for the feb/march date set for joe's next fight, hopkins pretty much aint gunna fighting.
I think Kessler is the smart option for joe atm; i don't think much of him personaly, i think hes blown up and by the time joes career is ended the only thing people will remember from that match is calzaghe taking all major belts, after the likes of lacy, young JT (when he moves up) walk through kessler his name on calzaghes resume wont me much; the only real chance i give kessler is if joes hands go, thats it.
You say about taylor and winky not moving up to fight him, i highly highly doubt that! Providing Calzaghe comes through his next fight, and so does taylor, smart money is on those to mixing it up in the US towards the end part of 2007. taylor is a HBO fight, a very hungry young lad, hes gunna wanna take his chance by beating the best at SMW while he can, HBO aint gunna want taylor staying at middle while Joe is at SM wanting to fight him, there would be way to many $$$ in for them!
As for him 'dropping all talk of RJJ' god knows whens the last time joe has spoke of fighting him, last time i heard was RJJ talking about fighitng Joe after he beat lacy...
don't be t shocked if the kessler fight doesn't go through tho, as much as i want that to be Calzaghe's next fight, with HBO not in the frame, it wudn't shock me at all if they are pressing for a calzaghe V some half decent american in order for the 'general boxing fans' in the states have more of an incentive to watch the fight, there for making Joe a bigger name in the us, and HBO being able to cash in more for a Taylor/wright - Calzaghe fight late 2007... i aint saying its right, but thats how boxing works, and lets face it, 42-0, 31 KOs, 19 title Def's 34 yrs old, the guy deserves a chance to make some big money b4 he goes out doesn't he? i think kesslers just a SMw version of WW's toni magrito
Re: Calzaghe vs Kessler (February 2007)
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Lets be fair there is no chance of a fight with Kessler. To be honest if Calzaghe took on Andrade I would be more than happy.
I fear it will be probably be someone we have never heard of yet again.
I would love to see this fight happen...if Joe C fights anyone else I will wash my hands of him.....
