This cover makes no sense to me... Were is "The White Wolf"
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This cover makes no sense to me... Were is "The White Wolf"
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Didn't you remember the story on fightnews where Sam Peter won the belt from him in a street fight in downtown Youngstown, Ohio? I believe it was on the undercard of the Tyson/Sanders war.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
There is nothing like a bit of quality journalism eh ;)
KO magazine and Ring magazine (and rightly so) don't acknowledge the WBO. Peter's there cuz he's considered the # 1 contender.
So essentially what you're saying is that there is still no American Heavyweight world championholding a recognised belt? Poor old Shannon, especially as he had to go all those 12 rounds to get it as well....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I thought you mean't the Holyfield article where the author makes some remark about someone not being able to carry Marvin Root's jockstrap. I'm guessing he meant either Jack Root or Marvin Hart.
For some reason I don't feel sorry for Shannon. But he can still milk the title for some thing. Calzaghe and Margarito have been milking there garbage WBO title for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
100% Agreed
And yet that didn't stop them from awarding Calzaghe the ring belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
THey did not award him the ring belt, he fought jeff lacy for the vacant ring belt.
So they were the 1 and 2 contenders?Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Either 1 & 2 or 1 & 3- they allow 1 & 3 to fight for vacant titles if there is very little disparity between 2 & 3.
Right. So even though the ring doesn't recognise the WBO it still had Calzaghe ranked in a position to take their title? :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
Logic??!!?!?!? You can't argue on the basis of logic, it has to be all down to some old American pundits and writers and their opinions. Calzaghe's first title shot in their view was for the ring belt. Totally mkes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Well they took their time but got there in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
The Ring recognizes the WBO as much as it does the WBA WBU WBC IBF IBA IBO.....They are all corrupt parasites that keep boxing from being a mainstream sport in America.
Ever since The Ring created it's championship policy it no longer recognizes any belt. Before it did, it only acknowledge the WBC, WBA and the IBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Ring magazine can care less about any title.....Truth is their title is the only one that counts as far as legitimacy......as you often see they have vacant slots in their champion area...They go b who is the most dominate champion and who fights the best comp if their title is not passed along by defeat...EG baldo was ring champ because he won it from Judah...the rest is all about money amoung thwe organizations...they are the least biased in their ratings because they don't profit from their rankings....You can't put down Ring's champion...You will be hard pressed to find anyone who knows anthing about the sport to disagree with them...their belt is either won from the former holder or awarded by quality and quality only
Yes, but the argument about why Lyakovich wasn't on the cover still counts, as his opponent to win his belt, Lamon Brewster, is a fighter of similar level with Rahman, Byrd and John Ruiz, whom the other champions had to beat to claim their belt. Anyhow, I doubt there is a fighter in there worthy of the Ring belt, which, I would agree, is a good indicator of who the best of the champions is in most of the division, where unifications are rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Right. So no point in lambasting the WBO belt then is there? It's just as shit as the others and Calzaghe was still ranked and then won the ring belt on the back of milking it for years ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I think ( not posotive here) tha last HW ring champion was Vitaly
Peter has the IBA title, so he has one of the many alphabet titles too. ANd you might say that the WBO is better then the IBA, but what is the difference. Peter beat Toney for his alphabet belt, and Lykovic beat brewster for his.
As an American I have a problem dealing with The Ring's stance on the WBO. It sucks that they bitch and complain about the alphabet groups, then turn around and legitimize the WBC, IBF and WBA in their reporting and ignore the WBO.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
but if they put the wbo alphabet champ on the cover, then they would not have room for the iba alphabet champ. And you may also be mad that they neglected to put the IBC, IBU, WBU, WBE champions on the cover.
For real: who can keep up with these alphabet gangs?
Why didn't you include the WBB in your post?Quote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise