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Hatton fight finally confirmed
At last, We can confirm that Ricky's next fight will be
DATE: January 20th 2007
LOCATION: Las Vegas,Nevada,USA.(Exact venue to be confirmed later today)
OPPONENT: Juan Urango
FIGHT: The I.B.F. and Vacant I.B.O. Light Welterweight Championships.
SUPPORT: Jose Luis Castillo
More to follow, but for all those who have speculated,and for all those who have patiently waited, Thank you.
As soon as tickets are available I will post on the web site.
There will be further statements from Ricky being posted on the site following today's press conference Which has a James Bond theme.
And as Ernst Blofeld would have said "Las Vegas has been expecting you Mr.Hatton"
Paul Speak
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This is courtesy of Team Hatton.
;)
EDIT BY SADDO: FULL CONFERENCE AUDIO ADDED TO THE FRONT PAGE...
http://www.saddoboxing.com/4318-rick...an-urango.html
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I'm disappointed Hatton is fighting Urango. I expected more from him
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Same here mate regards to Urango. It looks like Castillo for June also in Vegas, and then hopefully more big names to follow ;)
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Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
Same here mate regards to Urango. It looks like Castillo for June also in Vegas, and then hopefully more big names to follow ;)
Frank Warren wrote in his Sunday Paper that Haton's camp are in talks with Cotto's for Madison Square Garden later in the year, that would be awesome but how the fuck would Frank know?
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I thought this fight had been booked for months? ???
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Same here mate regards to Urango. It looks like Castillo for June also in Vegas, and then hopefully more big names to follow ;)
Frank Warren wrote in his Sunday Paper that Haton's camp are in talks with Cotto's for Madison Square Garden later in the year, that would be awesome but how the F*** would Frank know?
I'd rather see Cotto-Hatton than Castillo-hatton. Castillo is getting up there and has had lots of wars..gotta wonder how much longer he'll be in his prime. Not that he's shown any signs of slowing down, but with a fighter it can happen almost overnight.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I thought this fight had been booked for months? ???
So did I. They probably just had to dot the i's and cross the t's and all that
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
Same here mate regards to Urango. It looks like Castillo for June also in Vegas, and then hopefully more big names to follow ;)
Frank Warren wrote in his Sunday Paper that Haton's camp are in talks with Cotto's for Madison Square Garden later in the year, that would be awesome but how the F*** would Frank know?
The Castillo bout for June is 99.9% certain. But Team Hatton have been in talks with Cotto, in case Castillo loses his fight on the undercard in January. I guess they are just covering their bases.
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Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Same here mate regards to Urango. It looks like Castillo for June also in Vegas, and then hopefully more big names to follow ;)
Frank Warren wrote in his Sunday Paper that Haton's camp are in talks with Cotto's for Madison Square Garden later in the year, that would be awesome but how the F*** would Frank know?
The Castillo bout for June is 99.9% certain. But Team Hatton have been in talks with Cotto, in case Castillo loses his fight on the undercard in January. I guess they are just covering their bases.
I'd be more concerned with Ricky losing and fucking up the mega match then Castillo to be honest. He hasn't looked great against either Maussa or Collazo recently.
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Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
I love the excuses people give Ricky Hatton.Not saying you are here but I just find it funny the way people defend him, insisting he really is top 10 p4p providing he fights the right opponents.
I cant think of any other fighter who having performed like he did against Collzao would have been defended so strongly.
Someone posted that he only struggled becuase he's crap against southpaws and has always been crap against them as if that somehow made it alright. I didn't hear many people say of Jeff Lacy, he's still p4p he just struggles against better boxers :P
Dont get me wrong, I love Ricky, I'm a fellow Brit and no-one carries the flag more proudly than him, its just I dont think he's actually as good as people make out.
People always make excuses for him in the way they just dont for any other top fighter. If Hatton struggles against southpaws thats not an excuse its a weakness.
Again sorry if it sounds like I'm criticising your post here, you were most likely just making a comment without trying to elevate him beyond his stature.
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Hatton is a huge marketing campaign right now, so you can bet they will be 'talking' Cotto, but that fight won't happen... If he is too small to fight at Welter, how the F*** can he even try to compete with Cotto? He is coming into the ring at 160+. He would make a huge mistake to fight Cotto. That was the fight he should have taken before moving to 147.
Hatton has to fight Urango, first because he was the only--therefore longest reigning--champ at 140. Second, he has Hatton's old belt. Third, he couldn't get a title shot going back down to 140 with any other ABC sanctioning body. It is a matter of course; Urango will lose, probably by KO.
WHAT's NEXT?
Hatton will fight Castillo next. A Ltwt moving up... that is the size of person he likes to battle. It will also be a classic war (like all of Castillo's big fights) that would rate a PPV. Whoever wins this fight will clean up the 140 division.
Junior Witter...? Give me a break! Medium skill, medium power (WBC)
M'Baye loses to both also. He's fought NO ONE except Balbi & Harris! (WBA)
Ricardo Torress is a game fighter that will give both a run for their money, but he lacks the consistency of Castillo & Hatton. (WBO)
Rabah can box, but he will get KO'd by either Castillo or Hatton--too much effective pressure
Vivian Harris believes he is better than his skills show. I wasn't convinced with his win over S. Johnston. Can he survive a war if he got KO'd by Maussa? Honestly, I wanted to see him against Hatton two years ago...
WELTERWEIGHT
Cotto already has his hands full with Quintana. Don't sleep, b/c Cotto CAN LOSE THIS ONE! If Cotto wins, he will probably fight Margarito or Cintron next. I see him working to unify the division. If Quintana wins, then there will be another person at 147 with a belt that NO ONE will want to fight--including Margarito. We already know Floyd will give up the WBC belt, so I wonder who will be fighting for that one...?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
I love the excuses people give Ricky Hatton.Not saying you are here but I just find it funny the way people defend him, insisting he really is top 10 p4p providing he fights the right opponents.
I cant think of any other fighter who having performed like he did against Collzao would have been defended so strongly.
Someone posted that he only struggled becuase he's crap against southpaws and has always been crap against them as if that somehow made it alright. I didn't hear many people say of Jeff Lacy, he's still p4p he just struggles against better boxers :P
Dont get me wrong, I love Ricky, I'm a fellow Brit and no-one carries the flag more proudly than him, its just I dont think he's actually as good as people make out.
People always make excuses for him in the way they just dont for any other top fighter. If Hatton struggles against southpaws thats not an excuse its a weakness.
Again sorry if it sounds like I'm criticising your post here, you were most likely just making a comment without trying to elevate him beyond his stature.
First off mate, who has Jeff Lacy beat and when was he p4p?? Answer never.
Secondly Hatton didnt have problems in my opinion with the soutpaw angle of Collazo, it was the weight issue, if you watch the fight from say the 4th onwards Collazo stands and trades for most of the remainder of the fight, Ricky just didnt have the snap and power he usually has, now i will use the excuse of the time he had to move to 147, firstly he was already weeks into camp expecting to fight at 140lbs, so with just under seven weeks to go he was told it was now at 147, so he then had to buld up alot of muscle in a short space of time, he was not his usual self in there now if your a Ricky Hatton fan you will know that, to move to a new weight you need time especially when your style is one of Ricky Hattons, it's much easier for a slick counter puncher like Floyd to move up in weight,Ricky is a world class fighter, excuses were made for valid reasons, Hatton is a great fighter and will prove this in 2007.
Also lets see him grow into Welterweight, i honestly think Ricky will be ok at Welterweight, he is a strong guy i wouldnt jump in with Cotto straight away at 147 but i would have a tune up but he needs to decide if he sees himself at 147, he needs to prepare his body properly and give time to develop into 147, Cotto is the bigger man but i still think that fight is a flip of a coin.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
I love the excuses people give Ricky Hatton.Not saying you are here but I just find it funny the way people defend him, insisting he really is top 10 p4p providing he fights the right opponents.
I cant think of any other fighter who having performed like he did against Collzao would have been defended so strongly.
Someone posted that he only struggled becuase he's crap against southpaws and has always been crap against them as if that somehow made it alright. I didn't hear many people say of Jeff Lacy, he's still p4p he just struggles against better boxers :P
Dont get me wrong, I love Ricky, I'm a fellow Brit and no-one carries the flag more proudly than him, its just I dont think he's actually as good as people make out.
People always make excuses for him in the way they just dont for any other top fighter. If Hatton struggles against southpaws thats not an excuse its a weakness.
Again sorry if it sounds like I'm criticising your post here, you were most likely just making a comment without trying to elevate him beyond his stature.
yes basically. Hatton will look exciting with an opponent standing in front of him. But it looks like boxers and movers and counter punchers trouble him or make him look bad. Urango is neither, so I expect an exciting fight
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
I love the excuses people give Ricky Hatton.Not saying you are here but I just find it funny the way people defend him, insisting he really is top 10 p4p providing he fights the right opponents.
I cant think of any other fighter who having performed like he did against Collzao would have been defended so strongly.
Someone posted that he only struggled becuase he's crap against southpaws and has always been crap against them as if that somehow made it alright. I didn't hear many people say of Jeff Lacy, he's still p4p he just struggles against better boxers :P
Dont get me wrong, I love Ricky, I'm a fellow Brit and no-one carries the flag more proudly than him, its just I dont think he's actually as good as people make out.
People always make excuses for him in the way they just dont for any other top fighter. If Hatton struggles against southpaws thats not an excuse its a weakness.
Again sorry if it sounds like I'm criticising your post here, you were most likely just making a comment without trying to elevate him beyond his stature.
CC. Agree completely. Hatton is good, but he's not that good. He's top 20 p4p, not top 10.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
Agreed, everyone seems to be talking about Urango like he is a bum on the streets ? Its a great match up,, the thrill factor will be very high ! I think its excellent matchmaking ! O0
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Matty--
great observation on how the GBP is taking a stranglehold of the promotions--and the ability to even do the matchmaking.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
Agreed, everyone seems to be talking about Urango like he is a bum on the streets ? Its a great match up,, the thrill factor will be very high ! I think its excellent matchmaking ! O0
No, Urango is a bum on the streets. Period. He's severely flawed and definitely not a top 5 guy at 140. Who's he beaten? No one. He certainly didn't beat Ben Rabah to win that belt. Seriously, this fight is a joke. But I'll forgive it if the Castillo fight actually gets made next. I still think Hatton ought to be giving Collazo the rematch he promised him--that fight would be a bigger event than this one will be, for sure.
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Urango vs. Hatton will be an exciting fight. It seems like only boxers are the ones who give Hatton trouble, but those who stand and trade like Urango is exciting to watch.
Agreed, everyone seems to be talking about Urango like he is a bum on the streets ? Its a great match up,, the thrill factor will be very high ! I think its excellent matchmaking ! O0
No, Urango is a bum on the streets. Period. He's severely flawed and definitely not a top 5 guy at 140. Who's he beaten? No one. He certainly didn't beat Ben Rabah to win that belt. Seriously, this fight is a joke. But I'll forgive it if the Castillo fight actually gets made next. I still think Hatton ought to be giving Collazo the rematch he promised him--that fight would be a bigger event than this one will be, for sure.
Collozo is too big for Ricky.. no need to rematch that fight. Ricky won it , almost got drug under the boat in the process. Urango stylistically is a good match for Hatton. both like to fight. should be pleasing to the eye. even so Urango is the Champion, even if he won it on a bullshit dec.. bullshit dec happen all the time. plenty of titles won on bullshit. ;)
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Urango stylistically is a good match for Hatton. both like to fight. should be pleasing to the eye.
It's stylistically a good match for Hatton in that Hatton will destroy him because he's not in the same league. I guess. Should be pleasing to the eye because Urango has no defense, will throw wild bombs and eventually get KO'd. Seems consistent with Urango being a bum.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Urango stylistically is a good match for Hatton. both like to fight. should be pleasing to the eye.
It's stylistically a good match for Hatton in that Hatton will destroy him because he's not in the same league. I guess. Should be pleasing to the eye because Urango has no defense, will throw wild bombs and eventually get KO'd. Seems consistent with Urango being a bum.
It will be a good match.. no worries mate !
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Seriously, whoever is looking forward to this fight is a fucking moron. Urango got a HUGE gift decision for his belt, he definitely lost the fight. Hatton is so far out of this guy's league, that it makes me sick. It's not like Floyd-Baldy where Baldy was a natural welter so his size could at least give me an advantage against Floyd. Urango is big, but Hatton is a monster at 140. If Hatton wanted to go back to 140, he should have at least fought someone nameworthy like Vivian Harris or finally shut Junior Witter's bitch ass up. But he's fighting Urango, and some of you are excited? Get the fuck outta here. This will be a 4th round knockout, and half of you Hatton fans will be elated claiming Hatton is back. Hatton is not trying to be great. Floyd is moving up to 154 against a "legend" in his first fight, yet people continue to talk shit about him, but Hatton moves down to 140 after almost getting beheaded by Collazo, and nobody says shit about Hatton. Talk about fucking hypocrites. This fight is bullshit.
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Seriously, whoever is looking forward to this fight is a fucking moron. Urango got a HUGE gift decision for his belt, he definitely lost the fight. Hatton is so far out of this guy's league, that it makes me sick. It's not like Floyd-Baldy where Baldy was a natural welter so his size could at least give me an advantage against Floyd. Urango is big, but Hatton is a monster at 140. If Hatton wanted to go back to 140, he should have at least fought someone nameworthy like Vivian Harris or finally shut Junior Witter's bitch ass up. But he's fighting Urango, and some of you are excited? Get the fuck outta here. This will be a 4th round knockout, and half of you Hatton fans will be elated claiming Hatton is back. Hatton is not trying to be great. Floyd is moving up to 154 against a "legend" in his first fight, yet people continue to talk shit about him, but Hatton moves down to 140 after almost getting beheaded by Collazo, and nobody says shit about Hatton. Talk about fucking hypocrites. This fight is bullshit.
Always look forward to a Hatton fight. ;)
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Floyd is moving up to 154 against a "legend" in his first fight, yet people continue to talk S*** about him,
dont remember anyone talking shit about him beating Gatti... they was a claim that Gatti was shot to bits ((TRUE)) but dont think anyone talked shit about what mayweather had just done to him...
they did talk shit about his fight with baldy though... and for good reason IMO ;)
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but Hatton moves down to 140 after almost getting beheaded by Collazo, and nobody says S*** about Hatton. Talk about F****** hypocrites.
not sure if you have been reading the post as hatton has been well slated after his preformance against Callazo hell this place was full of negative hatton posts after that fight.
never liked the fact that a Mayweather fan will take a jib as Hatton when his fighter puts up a bad showing
and visa versa when a Hatton fan takes a jibe at Mayweather to make his point about hatton.
never under stood that crap if im honest ???
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Originally Posted by Saddo
never liked the fact that a Mayweather fan will take a jib as Hatton when his fighter puts up a bad showing
and visa versa when a Hatton fan takes a jibe at Mayweather to make his point about hatton.
never under stood that crap if im honest ???
HELL YEAH!
You cannot take another figther's short comings and make them your strengths!
PBF ran all night vs Baldomir and Hatton had trouble with Collazo but how does that add up as good or bad for either fighter in the long run???
It might affect things if they fought each other and used those in training.....but it looks to me like that's not going to happen.
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
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Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
CC Saddo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
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Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.
I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality as a boxer (not as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.
I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
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Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.
I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality
as a boxer (not
as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.
I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
Hatton is willing to risk losing in order to win , that style simply makes for excellent viewing. O0
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Im exited about the fight big time, if I was 140lb id be pretty weary of this guy. He looks like a mini Mike Tyson.
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/...1_082605ac.jpg
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Judging from his last fight, you are dead on. He's like a 2006 version of Mike Tyson. Hatton will throw his guy in the dumpster.
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Judge him from his other fights then.
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Judge him from his other fights then.
Ok... Mike Arnatouis outboxed his ass all night and didn't even have to box off the back foot constantly like Ben Rabah... Those are the only two guys he's fought that mean shat and they both easily defeated him. He's not worthy of this fight or having a belt, not yet anyways, and with the way he fights I doubt ever.
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Judge him from his other fights then.
Ok... Mike Arnatouis outboxed his a** all night and didn't even have to box off the back foot constantly like Ben Rabah... Those are the only two guys he's fought that mean shat and they both easily defeated him. He's not worthy of this fight or having a belt, not yet anyways, and with the way he fights I doubt ever.
Oh well, I just saw him as an up and coming undefeated mean looking bastard. CC for bringing that to my attention I cant find any of his fights.
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CC. Agree completely. Hatton is good, but he's not that good. He's top 20 p4p, not top 10.
Of course he is top ten - whatever way you spin it and regardless of his performances, he has still WON 3 world titles on the bounce, 2 weight World Champion, a 4th World title against Urango and Castillo next.
P4P top ten in my eyes even with his one fight in 2006
Tzsyu (IBF Light Welterweight)
Maussa (WBA Light Welterweight)
Collazo (WBA Welterweight)
Urango (IBF Light Welterweight)
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Someone fill me in on Urango?? What kind of style,good points,weaknesses? I've never seen him in action. It does sound like it'll be an exciting fight,1 I'd want to see,they are just going to be going to war aren't they? Anyone giving Urango a chance,may be he can hurt Hatton?
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Someone fill me in on Urango?? What kind of style,good points,weaknesses? I've never seen him in action. It does sound like it'll be an exciting fight,1 I'd want to see,they are just going to be going to war aren't they? Anyone giving Urango a chance,may be he can hurt Hatton?
Unbeaten in 18 although he was apparently lucky to get the nod against Rabah
Don't think many know too much about him to be honest
http://www.saddoboxing.com/3014-boxi...-urango-2.html
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
and
Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a)
Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.
I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality
as a boxer (not
as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.
I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
The only people who had Collazo winning that fight are the hatton hatters.
The facts remain than not one single judge or the people from HBO who broadcast the fight had collazo winning.
It was a UD and hatton won it. Get over it!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Saddo
never liked the fact that a Mayweather fan will take a jib as Hatton when his fighter puts up a bad showing
and visa versa when a Hatton fan takes a jibe at Mayweather to make his point about hatton.
never under stood that crap if im honest ???
HELL YEAH!
You cannot take another figther's short comings and make them your strengths!
PBF ran all night vs Baldomir and Hatton had trouble with Collazo but how does that add up as good or bad for either fighter in the long run???
It might affect things if they fought each other and used those in training.....but it looks to me like that's not going to happen.
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
and
Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
CC Saddo
back at you lyle you explained that far better than i did ;)
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
and
Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.
I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality
as a boxer (not
as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.
I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
cc back shza.
Good post buddy, I dont see how anyone can compare Ricky getting a gift against Collazo and Mayweather running rings around Baldomir as both being equally negative either.
Hatton looked very ordinary against Collazo, Floyd still looked like a master boxer against Baldimor.
Anyone who says Floyd is not entertaining is just ignorant and cannot have watched any of his other fights.
How can anyone consider Mayweather vs Coralles boring? Or Mayweather vs Gatti? He rises to the occasion and has found a way to defeat every fighter put in front of him.
I've watched his entire career and the beautiful thing about Foyd is that he adpats. In his early career he was considered a puncher with one punch knockout power, as he's moved up in weight and as now is fighting a couple divisions above his natural weight limit he's resorted to boxing ability and elusiveness to overcome the weight disadvantage.
That to me is impressive. Ricky is great at 140 but his style means he cannot move up as he has only way to fight and win, and that is bullying and pressuring a weaker opponent.
Floyd can win in multiple ways and that makes him a far superior fighter.
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Re: Hatton fight finally confirmed
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Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!
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Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.
I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality
as a boxer (not
as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.
I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
Hatton is willing to risk losing in order to win , that style simply makes for excellent viewing. O0
I got to disagree with you here. Floyd takes risks, he's moved up 5 divisions to get a better challenge.
Ricky has fought in 1 division, took one fight in the division up didn't like it and moved back down.
Ricky's fighting syle is fun to watch to though and I'm looking forward to his fight with Urango.
